M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[bozotheclown]

Like, look at silly Foxy. He’s actually voting for me. Can this be real?

Foxy won’t tell us his Balki case. Does anyone else want to guess what it is?

Out of curiosity, do you recall a time as scum when a town player had a solid case on you that wasn't mostly speculative and largely driven by gut reaction?

Actually, does anyone remember a time when Balki was outright caught as scum as opposed to being lynched because town got the right feeling about him being scum?

What do you mean by "outright caught"? I was scum with Balki in M34 and he was caught because he was cop scanned.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I think scum would play up the narrative that Day 3 mattered so much if they did indeed bus Bob.

Can you think of any reasons why town would try to say that Day 3 mattered?

(recall please, when you answer, that the Day 3 vote was 7-6, and we as a group shifted our votes in the final hour to lynch scum)

[Fluminator]

This game makes me laugh

[Fluminator]

I'm glad I signed up

[Foxcastle]

Out of curiosity, do you recall a time as scum when a town player had a solid case on you that wasn't mostly speculative and largely driven by gut reaction?

Actually, does anyone remember a time when Balki was outright caught as scum as opposed to being lynched because town got the right feeling about him being scum?

What do you mean by "outright caught"? I was scum with Balki in M34 and he was caught because he was cop scanned.

Ah, good point. I don't mean that, either. I mean a case based on his voting pattern or a scumslip or an analysis of how he associated with other players. Something like that. I do not mean "Balki feels off" or "Balki hasn't been solving" or more speculative/moody/gut-feeling reads.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I'm glad I signed up

Me too!

I sincerely was hoping to be Night Killed on N2. I was sad to remain alive and have to keep playing. But Day 3 was fun, and I feel like the whole game is fun again.

[bozotheclown]

I might be willing to count that as a slight townslip by Damo and Jamiet

They were either town slips or fake town slips.

There's no such thing as a town slip.

How do you mean that? Do you think damo and Jamie are just as likely to not realize the relative value of the mafia roles as scum?

[bozotheclown]

I'm glad I signed up

Me too!

I sincerely was hoping to be Night Killed on N2. I was sad to remain alive and have to keep playing. But Day 3 was fun, and I feel like the whole game is fun again.

Why did you want to be NKed?

[Balki Bartokomous]

Ah, good point. I don't mean that, either. I mean a case based on his voting pattern or a scumslip or an analysis of how he associated with other players. Something like that. I do not mean "Balki feels off" or "Balki hasn't been solving" or more speculative/moody/gut-feeling reads.

Yeah, maybe go back through all my scum games and present all of the reasons that people scumread me, and then make a spreadsheet about them.

And then go get all my town games and present all of the reasons that people scumread me, and then make a spreadsheet of those.

And then -- and this is the exciting part -- tell us how that is relevant to this game.

[BunnyGo]

I'm glad I signed up

Me too!

I sincerely was hoping to be Night Killed on N2. I was sad to remain alive and have to keep playing. But Day 3 was fun, and I feel like the whole game is fun again.

What a subtle way to say nothing but remind us that you're town...

[Balki Bartokomous]

I'm glad I signed up

Me too!

I sincerely was hoping to be Night Killed on N2. I was sad to remain alive and have to keep playing. But Day 3 was fun, and I feel like the whole game is fun again.

Why did you want to be NKed?

I wasn't having fun. I felt like there were a bunch of townies that completely mailed it in, and were not trying. And I felt like some folks were being unnecessarily disrespectful and hostile. And I just felt like I didn't want to spend my time trying to solve this puzzle given the toxicity and the low level of effort from others.

I also didn't really have many leads, and I didn't want to make an effort to figure it out with so many people just absent.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I'm glad I signed up

Me too!

I sincerely was hoping to be Night Killed on N2. I was sad to remain alive and have to keep playing. But Day 3 was fun, and I feel like the whole game is fun again.

What a subtle way to say nothing but remind us that you're town...

Just telling you my feelings, dude. You can look at them, and decide whether they are sincere.

[Fluminator]

Bunny Buddy, I'll look at Balki more closely tomorrow with you if we myslynch today.

For now, can you confirm for everyone that everyone in this town tried engaging with Bob/Sulit except for Rdrivera, Fox, and EMC. You mentioned you wanted to.

(This is also why I always crusade against lurkers at the beginning. Active players reveal things like this better)

[Balki Bartokomous]

Bunny Buddy, I'll look at Balki more closely tomorrow with you if we myslynch today.

Okay Flum, now you're obvtowning.

[Foxcastle]

Ah, good point. I don't mean that, either. I mean a case based on his voting pattern or a scumslip or an analysis of how he associated with other players. Something like that. I do not mean "Balki feels off" or "Balki hasn't been solving" or more speculative/moody/gut-feeling reads.

Yeah, maybe go back through all my scum games and present all of the reasons that people scumread me, and then make a spreadsheet about them.

And then go get all my town games and present all of the reasons that people scumread me, and then make a spreadsheet of those.

And then -- and this is the exciting part -- tell us how that is relevant to this game.

If you insist.

[Fluminator]

Bunny Buddy, I'll look at Balki more closely tomorrow with you if we myslynch today.

Okay Flum, now you're obvtowning.

Thanks, I've now learned your weakness for when I am scum

[Jamiet99uk]

Bunny Buddy, I'll look at Balki more closely tomorrow with you if we myslynch today.

Okay Flum, now you're obvtowning.

Nauseating.

[Jamiet99uk]

At this moment in time, for me, the scumpool is:

EMC
Chaqa
Balki
Flum
...maybe Foxcastle
….maybe BunnyGo.

[bozotheclown]

Actually, does anyone remember a time when Balki was outright caught as scum as opposed to being lynched because town got the right feeling about him being scum?

What do you mean by "outright caught"? I was scum with Balki in M34 and he was caught because he was cop scanned.

Ah, good point. I don't mean that, either. I mean a case based on his voting pattern or a scumslip or an analysis of how he associated with other players. Something like that. I do not mean "Balki feels off" or "Balki hasn't been solving" or more speculative/moody/gut-feeling reads.

The only other game I remember playing where Balki was scum was M46, and Balki was caught in that game by the reporter. Do you remember any games where Balki was "lynched because town got the right feeling about him being scum"?

[Balki Bartokomous]

Thanks, I've now learned your weakness for when I am scum

It's just -- this is totally the right thing to do, and it's not what scum wants.

It is ridiculous to push on me today. My behavior yesterday really does not make sense as Scum!Balki. But, granted, Scum!Balki is a crafty, crafty little squirrel. So you probably don't want to sort him as Town for getting one vote right.

If you're scum, you love all the people ignoring obvious explanations for the vote yesterday and second-guessing first principles. You love people focused on questioning me. It would be very unusual and counter to win condition for you to try to sweep that out of the thread with "let's think about that tomorrow if we mislynch today."