M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Foxcastle]

All things considered, I think Fox makes a lot of sense as a wagon today. He ... is widely flying under the radar, lots of players have scumreads on him.

This is contradictory. One of these days, you're all going to learn that "flying under the radar" or "present but not present" or whatever you want to call it is just how I am as any alignment.

I suppose I meant that, compared to the level of people scumreading you, you're accumulating very few votes. Contrast to me, who while also being widely scumread, has attracted a LOT of votes.

Tends to be a scum indicator IMO as your teammates will scum read but not vote for you, unless bussing.

Ah, yeah, I've been wondering about that myself.

[Jamiet99uk]

Cop is dead. Godfather irrelevant
If killer dies the other mafia gain the kill

I assume Damo mean the Mafia cop, i.e Patient Zero, who is not dead.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think the only way EMC is scum is if he's patient zero.

I think *that* may be the most valuable scum role right now, as it's easiest to hide and not know anything.

I agree with this observation.

[Foxcastle]

This is contradictory. One of these days, you're all going to learn that "flying under the radar" or "present but not present" or whatever you want to call it is just how I am as any alignment.

I suppose I meant that, compared to the level of people scumreading you, you're accumulating very few votes. Contrast to me, who while also being widely scumread, has attracted a LOT of votes.

Tends to be a scum indicator IMO as your teammates will scum read but not vote for you, unless bussing.

Ah, yeah, I've been wondering about that myself.

The only thing I can think is that the scum team wants to save me for a later mislynch.

[BunnyGo]

Of the Balki-Fox back and forth, I think Balki is more likely to be the scum (town/town is possible, as is scum theatre). The following thoughts occur:

1) Balki asks lots of questions, points lots of things out, but none of them are particularly original, insightful, or helpful

2) Balki doesn't stick his neck out on ANY votes.

3) Balki has made exactly 1 read that wasn't hedged, and it was after I pushed him on it. He's made it loudly, and not particularly convincingly since

I'm sure I can come up with more after work/homeschool, but my Bunny Sense is tingling, and Drunk Bunny (TM) has rarely led me wrong. ##VOTE BALKI

[Fluminator]

Can you explain this more if you haven't yet?

A mix between gut, meta, his thought progressions seeming fake, wagon/eod analysis, and associative tells with Bob.

I'll go expand more closer to eod unless I notice something else.

Could you expand it before EOD so I have time to address it?

I won't spring it on you right at eod lol

[Chaqa]

Of the Balki-Fox back and forth, I think Balki is more likely to be the scum (town/town is possible, as is scum theatre). The following thoughts occur:

1) Balki asks lots of questions, points lots of things out, but none of them are particularly original, insightful, or helpful

2) Balki doesn't stick his neck out on ANY votes.

3) Balki has made exactly 1 read that wasn't hedged, and it was after I pushed him on it. He's made it loudly, and not particularly convincingly since

I'm sure I can come up with more after work/homeschool, but my Bunny Sense is tingling, and Drunk Bunny (TM) has rarely led me wrong. ##VOTE BALKI

Finally someone else pushes on Balki!

Hmmm

[Fluminator]

All things considered, I think Fox makes a lot of sense as a wagon today. He ... is widely flying under the radar, lots of players have scumreads on him.

This is contradictory. One of these days, you're all going to learn that "flying under the radar" or "present but not present" or whatever you want to call it is just how I am as any alignment.

I suppose I meant that, compared to the level of people scumreading you, you're accumulating very few votes. Contrast to me, who while also being widely scumread, has attracted a LOT of votes.

Tends to be a scum indicator IMO as your teammates will scum read but not vote for you, unless bussing.

Unless Fox is patient zero, there's only one partner that knows who he is to bus him like this.

[BunnyGo]

Of the Balki-Fox back and forth, I think Balki is more likely to be the scum (town/town is possible, as is scum theatre). The following thoughts occur:

1) Balki asks lots of questions, points lots of things out, but none of them are particularly original, insightful, or helpful

2) Balki doesn't stick his neck out on ANY votes.

3) Balki has made exactly 1 read that wasn't hedged, and it was after I pushed him on it. He's made it loudly, and not particularly convincingly since

I'm sure I can come up with more after work/homeschool, but my Bunny Sense is tingling, and Drunk Bunny (TM) has rarely led me wrong. ##VOTE BALKI

Finally someone else pushes on Balki!

Hmmm

I've been pushing a little for days now...keep up...

[Balki Bartokomous]

Of the Balki-Fox back and forth, I think Balki is more likely to be the scum (town/town is possible, as is scum theatre). The following thoughts occur:

1) Balki asks lots of questions, points lots of things out, but none of them are particularly original, insightful, or helpful

2) Balki doesn't stick his neck out on ANY votes.

3) Balki has made exactly 1 read that wasn't hedged, and it was after I pushed him on it. He's made it loudly, and not particularly convincingly since

I'm sure I can come up with more after work/homeschool, but my Bunny Sense is tingling, and Drunk Bunny (TM) has rarely led me wrong. ##VOTE BALKI

y'all are crazy.

[Foxcastle]

I suppose I meant that, compared to the level of people scumreading you, you're accumulating very few votes. Contrast to me, who while also being widely scumread, has attracted a LOT of votes.

Tends to be a scum indicator IMO as your teammates will scum read but not vote for you, unless bussing.

Ah, yeah, I've been wondering about that myself.

The only thing I can think is that the scum team wants to save me for a later mislynch.

I wonder if this is why I'm still at 1 vote... The scum team doesn't want to be responsible for pushing into a viable position for the lynch, they're waiting for town to do it. (This is a little weak, since the competition is a bunch of 2-person wagons...)

[BunnyGo]

Of the Balki-Fox back and forth, I think Balki is more likely to be the scum (town/town is possible, as is scum theatre). The following thoughts occur:

1) Balki asks lots of questions, points lots of things out, but none of them are particularly original, insightful, or helpful

2) Balki doesn't stick his neck out on ANY votes.

3) Balki has made exactly 1 read that wasn't hedged, and it was after I pushed him on it. He's made it loudly, and not particularly convincingly since

I'm sure I can come up with more after work/homeschool, but my Bunny Sense is tingling, and Drunk Bunny (TM) has rarely led me wrong. ##VOTE BALKI

y'all are crazy.

I prefer "yous"

[BunnyGo]

Of the Balki-Fox back and forth, I think Balki is more likely to be the scum (town/town is possible, as is scum theatre). The following thoughts occur:

1) Balki asks lots of questions, points lots of things out, but none of them are particularly original, insightful, or helpful

2) Balki doesn't stick his neck out on ANY votes.

3) Balki has made exactly 1 read that wasn't hedged, and it was after I pushed him on it. He's made it loudly, and not particularly convincingly since

I'm sure I can come up with more after work/homeschool, but my Bunny Sense is tingling, and Drunk Bunny (TM) has rarely led me wrong. ##VOTE BALKI

y'all are crazy.

But you haven't even backed your one "unhedged" read by VOTING ON THEM. I call hedging scum.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Eh, who cares when I vote? I'd say I've committed quite heavily to my read on Fox. When I vote is not important, given what I've put in the thread.

You seem to be acting like the Day 3 scum lynch did not happen. You should act like it did happen. Cause it did.

[bozotheclown]

Role

Which role would be more valuable at this point?

I don't understand the point of this question. Clearly both killer and godfather more valuable than goon. You are beginning to worry me Xorxes.

Besides what has been pointed out about the GF having no extra value with the cop gone, having a mafia killer is meant to help town. Why do you think the killer is more valuable than the goon?

[Foxcastle]

Eh, who cares when I vote? I'd say I've committed quite heavily to my read on Fox. When I vote is not important, given what I've put in the thread.

You seem to be acting like the Day 3 scum lynch did not happen. You should act like it did happen. Cause it did.

So you think that Day 3 really matters, and I'm going to assume that you think that because there's a lot of information that can be derived from when and how people voted.

But you don't think it matters when and how you vote? (Or don't vote, in this case.) Who do we know who tries to obscure their vote? Scum! Who do we know would try to claim that it doesn't matter that they hid their vote because the information is buried in the thread? Also scum!

[bozotheclown]

I might be willing to count that as a slight townslip by Damo and Jamiet

They were either town slips or fake town slips.

[Chaqa]

I think scum would play up the narrative that Day 3 mattered so much if they did indeed bus Bob.

[Chaqa]

I might be willing to count that as a slight townslip by Damo and Jamiet

They were either town slips or fake town slips.

There's no such thing as a town slip.

[Foxcastle]

Sigh. I'm definitely tunneling Balki at this point. But I do think he needs to be lynched, and I think he needs to be lynched worse than anybody else.