M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Jamiet99uk]

DAY ONE FINAL VOTES

Temasek22 (7) brainbomb, kgray, Jamiet99uk, bozotheclown, rdrivera2005, Chaqa, damo666
worcej (4) BunnyGo, Fluminator, Balki Bartokomous, Foxcastle
brainbomb (3) Vecna, bo_sox48, Temasek22
Foxcastle (1) worcej
Chaqa (1) xorxes
No‑Lynch (1) Pjandy
Fluminator (1) e.m.c^42

Non-vote: Bob McBob (sulit)


DAY TWO FINAL VOTES

Vecna (9) Balki Bartokomous, kgray, damo666, Fluminator, Foxcastle, Chaqa, xorxes, Vecna, bozotheclown
Pjandy (2) worcej, rdrivera2005
bo_sox48 (2) BunnyGo, Jamiet99uk

Non-votes: bo_sox48, e.m.c^42, Pjandy, BobMcBob


DAY THREE FINAL VOTES

BobMcBob (7) xorxes, worcej, bozotheclown, BunnyGo, Balki Bartokomous, Fluminator, e.m.c^42
e.m.c^42 (6) damo666, rdrivera2005, Jamiet99uk, kgray, Foxcastle, Chaqa
Chaqa (1) BobMcBob

Non-votes: Pjandy

It appears to me that the scum are avoiding NK-ing people who were on leading wagons, thus rendering vote count analysis more troublesome.

[Balki Bartokomous]

RIP worcej

Gotta go parent. Let's get scum today.

My what a novel and creative suggestion.

So many things you say make me want to punch you in the face. I try not to write that over and over in the thread. But know that just because I don't say it, doesn't mean I'm not thinking it.

[xorxes]

How on Earth do you guys lynched Vecna? And who changed the rule on hammering? It was forever majority voting both on the biggest wagon and to hammer. Even the bot count this way.

Now I will read the last 20 pages.

@rivera, when you posted this, how did you know that the rule on hammering was not what you expected if you had not read the last 20 pages yet, where that rule was discussed?

[Jamiet99uk]

RIP worcej

Gotta go parent. Let's get scum today.

My what a novel and creative suggestion.

So many things you say make me want to punch you in the face. I try not to write that over and over in the thread. But know that just because I don't say it, doesn't mean I'm not thinking it.

Oh dear, Balki.

Please know that I forgive you, with love in my heart.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Oh dear, Balki.

Please know that I forgive you, with love in my heart.

[xorxes]

Oh dear, Balki.

Please know that I forgive you, with love in my heart.

🤮

[brainbomb]

RIP worcej

Gotta go parent. Let's get scum today.

My what a novel and creative suggestion.

So many things you say make me want to punch you in the face. I try not to write that over and over in the thread. But know that just because I don't say it, doesn't mean I'm not thinking it.

##Gm note
reminder that threats of violence is probably a bad idea when our mafia games are no longer hidden. lets try to keep it gucci folks

[Balki Bartokomous]

##Gm note
reminder that threats of violence is probably a bad idea when our mafia games are no longer hidden. lets try to keep it gucci folks

I apologize. I meant it figuratively, but it was not the right thing to say.

[brainbomb]

[rdrivera2005]

How on Earth do you guys lynched Vecna? And who changed the rule on hammering? It was forever majority voting both on the biggest wagon and to hammer. Even the bot count this way.

Now I will read the last 20 pages.

@rivera, when you posted this, how did you know that the rule on hammering was not what you expected if you had not read the last 20 pages yet, where that rule was discussed?

I looked at the bot to see the vote count. The day has ended, there were 9 end votes and the high end votes are 6 on Vecna.

[Chaqa]

I think scum are killing people under no danger of being lynched in the future

Bad vote Chaqa, we don't worry about bussing quite yet.
Since people just think Chaqa is stupid instead of scum, I'll break from him for a bit.

##Vote Rdrivera

I'm not completely against a rivera vote, but I want to do a deeper dive into some VCA today. I would much prefer to vote for someone who was not on the Temasek wagon Day 1. One of these six, with brief reasoning until I expand on it later:
- xorxes - Possible Bob busser. Wasted Day 1 vote. Latecomer to Vecna hammer.
- EMC - Mainly informative. Clears up Day 3. Still strikes me as off.
- Fox - Widely scumread. Day 1 non-Tem voter and suspicious Day 3 actions.
- Balki - Surprisingly still alive. I also feel he is buddying me a bit.
- Flum - Obvscum
- Bunny - See mine and others Day 3 analysis, as well as his random Day 2 vote for bo.

Why?

Interesting that in an entire post full of my thoughts, you only latch onto the one thing about you. Was a little bait to see if it hooked.

[Chaqa]

##Vote xorxes

Jives with my Bob was bussed theory.

Why do you think Bob was Bussed?

Smart scum team would bus a (relatively) scummy/obvious player to gain town cred. I've done it before. So has rivera. So has xorxes.

[Chaqa]

I think scum are killing people under no danger of being lynched in the future

Bad vote Chaqa, we don't worry about bussing quite yet.
Since people just think Chaqa is stupid instead of scum, I'll break from him for a bit.

[][]Vote Rdrivera

I thought they would Kill me last night. And the fact that I am still alive makes me a bit concerned about my Fox read. Though, we still have Watcher alive, so dodging Watcher might be the reason.

Worcej was widely townread, and he cast an important vote last phase, so that kill makes sense.

Tend to agree. On the "why are they still alive" scale, xorxes and Flum are higher than you.

[rdrivera2005]

I think we should probably lynch someone on emc wagon or emc himself today.
The scummiest to me is Fox, but I will try to ISO the others too.
##vote Fox

[rdrivera2005]

##Vote xorxes

Jives with my Bob was bussed theory.

Why do you think Bob was Bussed?

Smart scum team would bus a (relatively) scummy/obvious player to gain town cred. I've done it before. So has rivera. So has xorxes.

I think we can only be sure of this when emc flips, but I believe there were one or two people bussing. But this still gives a better probability to find scum on emc wagon.

[rdrivera2005]

I think scum are killing people under no danger of being lynched in the future

Bad vote Chaqa, we don't worry about bussing quite yet.
Since people just think Chaqa is stupid instead of scum, I'll break from him for a bit.

[][]Vote Rdrivera

I thought they would Kill me last night. And the fact that I am still alive makes me a bit concerned about my Fox read. Though, we still have Watcher alive, so dodging Watcher might be the reason.

Worcej was widely townread, and he cast an important vote last phase, so that kill makes sense.

Tend to agree. On the "why are they still alive" scale, xorxes and Flum are higher than you.

Just not let them to be alive closer to mylo/lylo.

[Fluminator]

I think scum are killing people under no danger of being lynched in the future

Bad vote Chaqa, we don't worry about bussing quite yet.
Since people just think Chaqa is stupid instead of scum, I'll break from him for a bit.

[][]Vote Rdrivera

I thought they would Kill me last night. And the fact that I am still alive makes me a bit concerned about my Fox read. Though, we still have Watcher alive, so dodging Watcher might be the reason.

Worcej was widely townread, and he cast an important vote last phase, so that kill makes sense.

You are lynchbait a lot in games Balki. I don't know if you're as untouchable as you think you are in the mafia's eyes.

I only say this because I've noticed a lot of your reads are under the assumption mafia would be afraid to scum read you, and I think that might be colouring at least one of your reads in an important way.

[Chaqa]

I think we should probably lynch someone on emc wagon or emc himself today.
The scummiest to me is Fox, but I will try to ISO the others too.
##vote Fox

Fox is definitely the most suspicious of the EMC voters.

Jamie has been slipping by very easily. Maybe he's finally found himself as a wolf in sheep's clothing?

[bozotheclown]

As a couple of people have pointed out, BunnyGo's interaction with sulit D1 is also questionable, especially BunnyGo voting for sulit when sulit had only posted 4 times.

Here is BunnyGo's post from D1 that is a potential scum slip:

Balki: welcome back! Where’d you go? The post about not understanding how scum work seems Nai to me. My impression is he’s good enough to be faking the town slip. Maybe that’s a sign he’d only do it as scum? Wouldn’t try to townslip as Town?

@Jojo,

Friend, spare a thought for your reader, who faithfully consumes your prose seeking fulfillment and enlightenment.

What do you mean "the post about not understanding how scum work"? I understand exactly how they "work" and I've not said otherwise.

What do you mean "town slip"? I have perfect balance.

You cling so confidently to this "town slip" assumption (without mentioning what it is), that you think it is some sort of gambit.

Be kind to your reader. Tell us what we are eating.

@mafia, I am patient zero. Please protect me, and generally follow my lead.

@town, nothing to see here folks. I'm vanilla town.

@mafia, *wink.

If you were the patient zero then according to the role post:

You are Patient zero. Unbeknownst to you, your live bat head soup was contaminated with a virus. A new virus. A deadly virus. You went about your life as normal until you developed a cough, then all went downhill. You didn’t even realise the role you were to play. You are a MAFIA alignment cop. Each night you MUST PM the GM with ##investigate PLAYER. You will learn whether they are mafia or town. You do NOT know the identity of the other members on your mafia team. You win when there is nothing the world can do to prevent global eradication

The scum team knows who you are. But your post suggests that you know who they are and they don't know you.

He provides the patient zero role post as evidence that "The scum team knows who you are", but the role post does not say that. Either BunnyGo was making an assumption that turned out to be true, or he was aware the scum team know the identity of patient zero because he is scum and was told the identity of patient zero. The fact that he seemed so sure and did not state the knowledge as an assumption is what I find suspicious.

##VOTE BunnyGo

[Chaqa]

As a couple of people have pointed out, BunnyGo's interaction with sulit D1 is also questionable, especially BunnyGo voting for sulit when sulit had only posted 4 times.

Here is BunnyGo's post from D1 that is a potential scum slip:

@Jojo,

Friend, spare a thought for your reader, who faithfully consumes your prose seeking fulfillment and enlightenment.

What do you mean "the post about not understanding how scum work"? I understand exactly how they "work" and I've not said otherwise.

What do you mean "town slip"? I have perfect balance.

You cling so confidently to this "town slip" assumption (without mentioning what it is), that you think it is some sort of gambit.

Be kind to your reader. Tell us what we are eating.

@mafia, I am patient zero. Please protect me, and generally follow my lead.

@town, nothing to see here folks. I'm vanilla town.

@mafia, *wink.

If you were the patient zero then according to the role post:

You are Patient zero. Unbeknownst to you, your live bat head soup was contaminated with a virus. A new virus. A deadly virus. You went about your life as normal until you developed a cough, then all went downhill. You didn’t even realise the role you were to play. You are a MAFIA alignment cop. Each night you MUST PM the GM with ##investigate PLAYER. You will learn whether they are mafia or town. You do NOT know the identity of the other members on your mafia team. You win when there is nothing the world can do to prevent global eradication

The scum team knows who you are. But your post suggests that you know who they are and they don't know you.

He provides the patient zero role post as evidence that "The scum team knows who you are", but the role post does not say that. Either BunnyGo was making an assumption that turned out to be true, or he was aware the scum team know the identity of patient zero because he is scum and was told the identity of patient zero. The fact that he seemed so sure and did not state the knowledge as an assumption is what I find suspicious.

##VOTE BunnyGo

Oooh. I was already suspicious of Bunny but this is juicy. I'll tentatively join you until I re-read this stuff.

##Vote BunnyGo