M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Fluminator]

So do we just hammer EMC first thing tomorrow? lol

I'll vote ##End if you do

[Balki Bartokomous]

Foxy is such scum. He's talking in the Scum QT right now.

[BunnyGo]

So do we just hammer EMC first thing tomorrow? lol

I'll vote ##End if you do

OOOH! Are we secretly hammering the night?! With us needing unanimous voting?

[BunnyGo]

Foxy is such scum. He's talking in the Scum QT right now.

As you said before, this is the first time I recall you actually stating a position and not hedging it.

So, Balki: Why do you say this? What about Fox's actions seem scum!Fox to you that Town!Fox wouldn't do? How do you even notice Fox? Do you have a special ability to see through an SEP Field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somebody_else%27s_problem)?

[bozotheclown]

It also seemed to me that BunnyGo was bussing Bob when Bob became the lead wagon.

Why?

BunnyGo twice voted to make Chaqa the lead wagon:

I want a post about your thoughts besides "HE LIED THAT TIME AND I CAUGHT HIM OUT!"

Like, paint a word picture for me of the characters this game. Villains, Heroes, Weirdos, etc. Who are you? Why are you? Don't feel like you have to do a big dive, or lots of nit picking. I want impressions and feelings.

That’s why I voted Vecna.

I voted Tem because I felt good about worcej at the time.

I think the main wagons today are bad, and want to lynch xorxes or Balki.

Why is Gamora?

Never heard of Gamora, but even your reads up above are weird and nit picky. I don't like it. ##VOTE CHAQ

And also tell me how I am going with the flow? Shouldn't I be voting for you or Chaqa, the two obvious lynches?

I didn't scumread you before because you didn't gave nothing, but this entrance is scummy as hell (or I am OMGusing). Anyway, between you and Chaqa I will choose you.

Anybody wants to start a wagon on Flum? I am finding him more and more scummy?

I said I'd wait until tomorrow, but sure ##VOTE FLUM

No...no...bad DUMB Bunny. Trust Drunk Bunny (TM) another day...

##VOTE Chaq

BunnyGo questioned Jamie vote for Bob that tied Bob with Chaqa:

Let's see what happens if there's a tie!

##VOTE BOB

Explain why?

BunnyGo defends Bob:

BunnyGo you seem extremely agitated about saving Bob McBob from the lynch.

Are you so keen to avoid that outcome, that you might vote Fluminator with Drunk Bunny and me?

Drunk bunny said not to vote Flum...I'm agitated because I'm trying to figure out what to do. I don't like Chaqa, but I never do, and I don't think he's ever been scum. I'm happy EMC is back, and he's trying, but maybe too hard. I kinda liked Bob's posts when he finally showed up, and I want to give a student a chance, but his wagon is very towny.

BunnyGo votes for Bob when Bob is the leading wagon:

I prefer to see emc or Bob lynched over Chaqa.

##VOTE Bob

Hmm, if it's EMC and Bob as my choice, then ##VOTE BOB.

Suddenly BunnyGo has a strong scum read of Bob:

Re-reading Bob...a bunch of "anchor posts" then "I know you hate me" The "claws" post. Then "I hate Bunny" then a bunch of "Chaqa sucks posts" then buddies me about Balki, then buddies Flum? Both for us questioning him. And that's it...

Jeez, ok yup. Happy with my vote.

BunnyGo develops a town read of Chaqa:

I want to hear people's thoughts. My thoughts, and my rereads are different.

I also hadn't reread him yet.

So you are giving up on Chaqa, who you were voting for? You could put him back in a tie for first.

I could, but learning that I've never played against scum!Chaq makes his absurd play this game a bit more towny (since his play is always absurd and awful).

BunnyGo leaves the Bob wagon, taking him out of the lead:

Bob is very voteable but from experience does he not engage with flavour more as scum?

No idea, do you know his scum meta? ##VOTE BALKI #LETSDOTHIS!!! FOR DRUNK BUNNY(TM)

BunnyGo get back on the Bob wagon, possibly realizing he has committed to bussing.

Hmm...seems no traction for it today. ##VOTE BOB

[BunnyGo]

Foxy is such scum. He's talking in the Scum QT right now.

Did something from the EOD stand out to you?

[Fluminator]

I don't see how any reasonable person can think tem is towny right now xD

Nothing to do with anything indicative necessarily but have never seen you use this type of emoticon

The more I think about it, the more I don't think this post came from a scum.
I think EMC is probably clean. This isn't something a scum would take note of and post publicly.

Unless... he's the one that doesn't know the mafia teammates.

[Fluminator]

It also seemed to me that BunnyGo was bussing Bob when Bob became the lead wagon.

Why?

BunnyGo twice voted to make Chaqa the lead wagon:

That’s why I voted Vecna.

I voted Tem because I felt good about worcej at the time.

I think the main wagons today are bad, and want to lynch xorxes or Balki.

Why is Gamora?

Never heard of Gamora, but even your reads up above are weird and nit picky. I don't like it. ##VOTE CHAQ

I said I'd wait until tomorrow, but sure ##VOTE FLUM

No...no...bad DUMB Bunny. Trust Drunk Bunny (TM) another day...

##VOTE Chaq

BunnyGo questioned Jamie vote for Bob that tied Bob with Chaqa:

Let's see what happens if there's a tie!

##VOTE BOB

Explain why?

BunnyGo defends Bob:

BunnyGo you seem extremely agitated about saving Bob McBob from the lynch.

Are you so keen to avoid that outcome, that you might vote Fluminator with Drunk Bunny and me?

Drunk bunny said not to vote Flum...I'm agitated because I'm trying to figure out what to do. I don't like Chaqa, but I never do, and I don't think he's ever been scum. I'm happy EMC is back, and he's trying, but maybe too hard. I kinda liked Bob's posts when he finally showed up, and I want to give a student a chance, but his wagon is very towny.

BunnyGo votes for Bob when Bob is the leading wagon:

I prefer to see emc or Bob lynched over Chaqa.

##VOTE Bob

Hmm, if it's EMC and Bob as my choice, then ##VOTE BOB.

Suddenly BunnyGo has a strong scum read of Bob:

Re-reading Bob...a bunch of "anchor posts" then "I know you hate me" The "claws" post. Then "I hate Bunny" then a bunch of "Chaqa sucks posts" then buddies me about Balki, then buddies Flum? Both for us questioning him. And that's it...

Jeez, ok yup. Happy with my vote.

BunnyGo develops a town read of Chaqa:

So you are giving up on Chaqa, who you were voting for? You could put him back in a tie for first.

I could, but learning that I've never played against scum!Chaq makes his absurd play this game a bit more towny (since his play is always absurd and awful).

BunnyGo leaves the Bob wagon, taking him out of the lead:

Bob is very voteable but from experience does he not engage with flavour more as scum?

No idea, do you know his scum meta? ##VOTE BALKI #LETSDOTHIS!!! FOR DRUNK BUNNY(TM)

BunnyGo get back on the Bob wagon, possibly realizing he has committed to bussing.

Hmm...seems no traction for it today. ##VOTE BOB

At the risk of sketching out Bunnygo by saying this, I think he's pretty confirmed town at this point tbh

[Chaqa]

So do we just hammer EMC first thing tomorrow? lol

No.

Although "EMC Hammer" is amusing for other reasons.

I want to see EMC's self-drawing in Hammer pants now.

[worcej]

Vote Count Day 3
BobMcBob (7) xorxes worcej bozotheclown BunnyGo Balki Bartokomous Fluminator e.m.c^42
e.m.c^42 (6) damo666 rdrivera2005 Jamiet99uk kgray Foxcastle Chaqa
Chaqa (1) BobMcBob

For the first time all game, we have some really useful hard info to analyze.

Everyone go re-read EOD knowing that Bob was scum. This was a close, late-moving, scum lynch. Should be a treasure trove.

Man my town-boner is so hard for you now.

Cannot + this enough. On cell in a meeting but definitely saw a lot of bad movement around this lynch.

[bozotheclown]

BunnyGo looks worse than I thought, he went from:

"I kinda liked Bob's posts when he finally showed up, and I want to give a student a chance, but his wagon is very towny."

to:

Re-reading Bob...a bunch of "anchor posts" then "I know you hate me" The "claws" post. Then "I hate Bunny" then a bunch of "Chaqa sucks posts" then buddies me about Balki, then buddies Flum? Both for us questioning him. And that's it...

Jeez, ok yup. Happy with my vote.

in 8 minutes, during which time Bob became the lead wagon.

[Fluminator]

Unless he's the secret mafia again. Agh
I hate that role. Who put it in.

I think we should only focus on the normal mafia and hope to hit the other in the crossfire along the way for now.

[Chaqa]

I don't see how any reasonable person can think tem is towny right now xD

Nothing to do with anything indicative necessarily but have never seen you use this type of emoticon

The more I think about it, the more I don't think this post came from a scum.
I think EMC is probably clean. This isn't something a scum would take note of and post publicly.

Unless... he's the one that doesn't know the mafia teammates.

I hypothesized this earlier.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Foxy is such scum. He's talking in the Scum QT right now.

As you said before, this is the first time I recall you actually stating a position and not hedging it.

So, Balki: Why do you say this? What about Fox's actions seem scum!Fox to you that Town!Fox wouldn't do? How do you even notice Fox? Do you have a special ability to see through an SEP Field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somebody_else%27s_problem)?

I state opinions all the time. I include caveats and hedges, when I feel them, because I have played this game long enough to know it is hard. It's hard to vote correctly. It's hard to know who is sincere and who is faking it. All of the folks here who spout things off with such certainty are very foolish, in my view.

Even here, I can't say I'm really sure that Fox is scum. But I wrote that because I began to suspect Fox as scum yesterday based on his nonconfrontationalism, and his vote off the scumlynch wagon near EOD is exactly what we would expect from ScumFox (assuming EMC is Town, which I suppose I am mentally doing right now, but could still be wrong).

[kgray]

At the risk of sketching out Bunnygo by saying this, I think he's pretty confirmed town at this point tbh

Why?

[worcej]

Trash post time:

Looks like Bob got the time he needed to focus on RL lol!

[Fluminator]

Watching his stream of conscious go from not wanting to lynch Bob, to convincing himself Bob is scum during eod long before Bob was a certain lynch would be very hard to fake, and completely unnecessary and counterproductive if he was on the scum team.

[bozotheclown]

It also seemed to me that BunnyGo was bussing Bob when Bob became the lead wagon.

If by "bussing" you mean "trying to decide on which leading wagon I liked the most" and explain my thoughts? Then yes, I absolutely was.

No, I mean it seemed like you only showed interest in lynching Bob after he became the lead wagon, as if maybe you are his scum partner.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Watching his stream of conscious go from not wanting to lynch Bob, to convincing himself Bob is scum during eod long before Bob was a certain lynch would be very hard to fake, and completely unnecessary and counterproductive if he was on the scum team.

+1

Also, I think it's reasonable for people to have rapidly changing views about a person like Bob at that stage. I mean, there really wasn't much to learn from Bob's ISO, and we were all sort of forced to think hard about Bob there at the end when the wagons got tight and the end became near. I expect everyone to be thinking hard about that, and wouldn't be surprised to see sincere opinions changing under that pressure.

[bozotheclown]

Watching his stream of conscious go from not wanting to lynch Bob, to convincing himself Bob is scum during eod long before Bob was a certain lynch would be very hard to fake, and completely unnecessary and counterproductive if he was on the scum team.

He only convinced himself Bob was a good lynch after Bob was already leading by 2 votes, then after making a strong scum read of Bob, he was committed to the Bob lynch.