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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2081 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:24 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:21 pm
Flum has the oddest of game logics, there's been hella lots of other lurkers like me, I think xorx is in his classic scum meta, the fucking hammer that sprung out of nowhere - which I think started with a dumbass town having fun poking vecna and then scum jumped at opportunity to lynch and not have to waste NK on him.
Balki is trolling somewhere but it's taken seriously, and it's probably wifom games involving clueless mafia. I can't really say anything about activity being AI when I've been gone and it'll be taken as hypocrisy, but rivera is in his classic, classic scum activity levels.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2082 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:24 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:15 pm
Fucking life
Where have you been?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2083 Post by xorxes » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:24 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:38 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:26 am
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:12 am


I had a very explicit and explained reason for my change of heart. Go back and read my posts. Thanks.
Because he said that he got Nk'ed really early really often when he didn't actually? I don't see quite how that's a nail in his coffin. If you got fearkilled a few times in a row, you'd feel pretty bad. You'd remember it. I know I remember being scumread consistently for how I play. In fact, I feel as though it happens every game. I can't see your problem there. And anyway, I don't have anyone better to vote at the moment. You point, I'll have a look at them as soon as I can access the bot again and I've had a look at the previous incarnation of myself.
He made a specific claim to look at the last 10 games as to him being killed night 1 in a lot of them. In fact he had won like 4 of them and was only killed twice in the the first two of the 10.

Seemed like a lie to me.
Have you ever scumread anyone for catching them on a pointless "lie" before?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2084 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:27 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:24 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:21 pm
Flum has the oddest of game logics, there's been hella lots of other lurkers like me, I think xorx is in his classic scum meta, the fucking hammer that sprung out of nowhere - which I think started with a dumbass town having fun poking vecna and then scum jumped at opportunity to lynch and not have to waste NK on him.
Balki is trolling somewhere but it's taken seriously, and it's probably wifom games involving clueless mafia. I can't really say anything about activity being AI when I've been gone and it'll be taken as hypocrisy, but rivera is in his classic, classic scum activity levels.
On that point, Jamie Chaq worce bungo (maybe) bozo and damo but with extra typos gave off feeling of generally same.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2085 Post by xorxes » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:29 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:18 pm
But before that, almost everyone this game (including self) has been really, really weird and am not sure what to make of it.
Must be a virus. Can you tell us why you have been weird at least?

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#2086 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:30 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:24 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:21 pm
Flum has the oddest of game logics, there's been hella lots of other lurkers like me, I think xorx is in his classic scum meta, the fucking hammer that sprung out of nowhere - which I think started with a dumbass town having fun poking vecna and then scum jumped at opportunity to lynch and not have to waste NK on him.
Balki is trolling somewhere but it's taken seriously, and it's probably wifom games involving clueless mafia. I can't really say anything about activity being AI when I've been gone and it'll be taken as hypocrisy, but rivera is in his classic, classic scum activity levels.
I’m not sure what this means. What does it mean?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2087 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:35 pm

worcej wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:15 pm
kgray wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:24 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:17 am
Knowing Vecna and bo_sox were both town, I would not expect Chaqa and xorxes to get so involved hammering Vecna as scum.

emc, Bob, and Pjandy are still not participating. emc said he would be more involved, but nothing more from him yet.

##VOTE emc
Is there any specific reason why that does not also apply to Flum?
Get ready for a whole string of Flavius-style posting from here on out.
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#2088 Post by Chaqa » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:36 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:19 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:59 pm
Sorry, no excuses for lurking but I'll be more active from now on.
It has now been 44 hours since EMC posted this. All four dead players still have more posts than he does. (This is not for here or now, but: if he's mod-killed or lynched having only posted twice in three and a half days, I hope the GMs will recommend that he not be allowed to play the next game he tries to sign up for.)

I am good with his lynch, but am not going to vote him right now because I want to see some competition among wagons, so I'll stay on chaqa. Time to start moving votes, people.

Chaqa, worcej, Balki, Bunny: who are your second choices?

Xorxes and rdrivera: who would get your vote among xorxes, Pjandy, me, and Balki?
Xorxes, Balki, Flum, Bob.

EMC over me, of course.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2089 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:36 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:24 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:15 pm
Fucking life
Where have you been?
Gone, obviously. But just, argh, life. Not in a state of mind to come up with good excuse sorry.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2090 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:37 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:19 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:59 pm
Sorry, no excuses for lurking but I'll be more active from now on.
It has now been 44 hours since EMC posted this. All four dead players still have more posts than he does. (This is not for here or now, but: if he's mod-killed or lynched having only posted twice in three and a half days, I hope the GMs will recommend that he not be allowed to play the next game he tries to sign up for.)

I am good with his lynch, but am not going to vote him right now because I want to see some competition among wagons, so I'll stay on chaqa. Time to start moving votes, people.

Chaqa, worcej, Balki, Bunny: who are your second choices?

Xorxes and rdrivera: who would get your vote among xorxes, Pjandy, me, and Balki?
Between EMC and Chaq it’s an interesting choice. Chaq is scummy. EMC is gone. If EMC is getting policy lynched either way, I’d rather vote Chaq. If EMC shows up, he may start playing and being useful and town, I’d rather vote Chaq. The question is whether I want a third option.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2091 Post by Chaqa » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:37 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:19 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:10 am
damo666 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:08 am
Well Chaqa nobody seems to agree with me that your D1 votemove to Tem with 20 mins to go is unscummy. What do you say?
Everything I’ve ever done going back to Mafia 1 is scummy. Some day someone will have to teach me how to be a pro towny like Flum or xorx
Are you saying that if I check all your games since Mafia 1 I won't find any in which you have been townread?
Everyone gets town read sometimes, but I think I get scum read more than anyone else.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2092 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:38 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:29 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:18 pm
But before that, almost everyone this game (including self) has been really, really weird and am not sure what to make of it.
Must be a virus. Can you tell us why you have been weird at least?
Unexpected (when signing up) but with current situations expected life circumstances. Started as "oh I can shitpost day 1 and catchup near end of day 2", but then day 2 got hammered. Have been helping family/family friends with stuff.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2093 Post by Foxcastle » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:38 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:37 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:19 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:59 pm
Sorry, no excuses for lurking but I'll be more active from now on.
It has now been 44 hours since EMC posted this. All four dead players still have more posts than he does. (This is not for here or now, but: if he's mod-killed or lynched having only posted twice in three and a half days, I hope the GMs will recommend that he not be allowed to play the next game he tries to sign up for.)

I am good with his lynch, but am not going to vote him right now because I want to see some competition among wagons, so I'll stay on chaqa. Time to start moving votes, people.

Chaqa, worcej, Balki, Bunny: who are your second choices?

Xorxes and rdrivera: who would get your vote among xorxes, Pjandy, me, and Balki?
Between EMC and Chaq it’s an interesting choice. Chaq is scummy. EMC is gone. If EMC is getting policy lynched either way, I’d rather vote Chaq. If EMC shows up, he may start playing and being useful and town, I’d rather vote Chaq. The question is whether I want a third option.
Are you saying EMC and Chaqa are you second scumreads after Balki?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2094 Post by Chaqa » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:40 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:24 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:38 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:26 am


Because he said that he got Nk'ed really early really often when he didn't actually? I don't see quite how that's a nail in his coffin. If you got fearkilled a few times in a row, you'd feel pretty bad. You'd remember it. I know I remember being scumread consistently for how I play. In fact, I feel as though it happens every game. I can't see your problem there. And anyway, I don't have anyone better to vote at the moment. You point, I'll have a look at them as soon as I can access the bot again and I've had a look at the previous incarnation of myself.
He made a specific claim to look at the last 10 games as to him being killed night 1 in a lot of them. In fact he had won like 4 of them and was only killed twice in the the first two of the 10.

Seemed like a lie to me.
Have you ever scumread anyone for catching them on a pointless "lie" before?
Oh gee let me consult my spreadsheet of "reasons I've scum read someone"

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2095 Post by xorxes » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:42 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:19 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:59 pm
Sorry, no excuses for lurking but I'll be more active from now on.
It has now been 44 hours since EMC posted this. All four dead players still have more posts than he does. (This is not for here or now, but: if he's mod-killed or lynched having only posted twice in three and a half days, I hope the GMs will recommend that he not be allowed to play the next game he tries to sign up for.)

I am good with his lynch, but am not going to vote him right now because I want to see some competition among wagons, so I'll stay on chaqa. Time to start moving votes, people.

Chaqa, worcej, Balki, Bunny: who are your second choices?

Xorxes and rdrivera: who would get your vote among xorxes, Pjandy, me, and Balki?
If those were my only choices I would probably go with Pjandy. But I rather lynch Chaqa or emc.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2096 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:42 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:30 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:24 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:21 pm
Flum has the oddest of game logics, there's been hella lots of other lurkers like me, I think xorx is in his classic scum meta, the fucking hammer that sprung out of nowhere - which I think started with a dumbass town having fun poking vecna and then scum jumped at opportunity to lynch and not have to waste NK on him.
Balki is trolling somewhere but it's taken seriously, and it's probably wifom games involving clueless mafia. I can't really say anything about activity being AI when I've been gone and it'll be taken as hypocrisy, but rivera is in his classic, classic scum activity levels.
I’m not sure what this means. What does it mean?
Rivera is rather likely to be scum from activity alone, as it is established tell like xorx. However it comes off as hypocritical when pointed out from me. I think there is tinfoil chance that you are actual patient zero ballsy enough to troll, but you're definitely playing someone in thread, just not sure who without reread.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2097 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:43 pm

##vote xorx in case I drop for some reason

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2098 Post by Foxcastle » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:45 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:43 pm
##vote xorx in case I drop for some reason
See you day Day 5, I guess.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2099 Post by xorxes » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:45 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:37 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:19 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:10 am


Everything I’ve ever done going back to Mafia 1 is scummy. Some day someone will have to teach me how to be a pro towny like Flum or xorx
Are you saying that if I check all your games since Mafia 1 I won't find any in which you have been townread?
Everyone gets town read sometimes, but I think I get scum read more than anyone else.
rivera used to say that all the time too, but he grew out of it.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2100 Post by kgray » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:46 pm

I liked what Bunny did earlier with analyzing the wagons. Here's my take on the current wagons with more than one vote:

e.m.c^42(4): Fluminator, Jamiet99uk, bozotheclown, damo666
This wagon is very towny. Flum is the only one of them I wouldn't call a townread, but I don't think he's scummy. And I think emc is scummy. Although, he has just shown up so I will obviously take what he says now into consideration.

Chaqa(3): Foxcastle, kgray, BobMcBob
Chaqa is my strongest scumread, but I don't get good vibes from either Fox or Bob. This makes me a little uncomfortable voting with them...

BobMcBob(2): xorxes, rdrivera2005
I think xorxes and rdr are both towny, and I am leaning scum on Bob. But I'm not as confident in any of these reads so it's not enough for me to change my vote.

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