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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1961 Post by Foxcastle » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:39 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:33 pm
But if that paranoia is real, I expect it to manifest itself in questioning and confrontation (there is none f that). And I don't expect Town!Fox to write that I'm his strongest town read. I just can't get my head around that.
Your expectations are wrong, then. Not everybody plays the game the way you do.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1962 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:43 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:39 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:33 pm
But if that paranoia is real, I expect it to manifest itself in questioning and confrontation (there is none f that). And I don't expect Town!Fox to write that I'm his strongest town read. I just can't get my head around that.
Your expectations are wrong, then. Not everybody plays the game the way you do.
I can’t say that I’m sure about this.

I am eager for you to convince me I am wrong.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1963 Post by Foxcastle » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:46 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:43 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:39 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:33 pm
But if that paranoia is real, I expect it to manifest itself in questioning and confrontation (there is none f that). And I don't expect Town!Fox to write that I'm his strongest town read. I just can't get my head around that.
Your expectations are wrong, then. Not everybody plays the game the way you do.
I can’t say that I’m sure about this.

I am eager for you to convince me I am wrong.
You think everyone plays the game the way you do?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1964 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:51 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:46 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:43 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:39 pm


Your expectations are wrong, then. Not everybody plays the game the way you do.
I can’t say that I’m sure about this.

I am eager for you to convince me I am wrong.
You think everyone plays the game the way you do?
No, but I’ve played with you several times, and I’ve definitely observed a pattern where you avoid confrontation (with me in particular) as scum, and it fits the model I would expect to see generally.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1965 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:56 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:24 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:23 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:14 pm


No he did not.

Read it again.
Just did. I’m no longer a professor of mathematics teaching the logic class, but it’s definitely there. And this is definitely dull.
He has answered it now, but only because I asked him to.
Your inability to draw logical conclusions is not surprising having played many games with you. I suggest you go think about the part he’d written

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1966 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:57 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:56 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:24 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:23 pm


Just did. I’m no longer a professor of mathematics teaching the logic class, but it’s definitely there. And this is definitely dull.
He has answered it now, but only because I asked him to.
Your inability to draw logical conclusions is not surprising having played many games with you. I suggest you go think about the part he’d written
<sniff> I miss Brainbomb...

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1967 Post by Foxcastle » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:58 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:51 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:46 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:43 pm

I can’t say that I’m sure about this.

I am eager for you to convince me I am wrong.
You think everyone plays the game the way you do?
No, but I’ve played with you several times, and I’ve definitely observed a pattern where you avoid confrontation (with me in particular) as scum, and it fits the model I would expect to see generally.
I believe you have also made similar claims as scum to try to get me mislynched—I'd have to be check to be sure, but you have definitely tried to get me mislynched with some of the other arguments you are making here. If you are town, your model is wrong, which is too bad, because you are actually good enough to be the ringer we need to catch scum right now.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1968 Post by xorxes » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:59 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:43 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:42 pm
balki tends to be much more heavy handed and forced as scum. entering with large sermons or reads lists early that make no sense.
This is ridiculous. I am exactly the same as both alignments. Is this actually something that you think, or are you just spouting off words at random?
bozo: Balki, kgray, Jamie, xorxes, rdrivera
Jamie: xorxes, BunnyGo, kgray, sulit, rdrivera
xorxes: Jamie, brainbomb, bozo, damo, Foxcastle
rdrivera: Balki, xorxes, kgray, Fluminator, brainbomb
BunnyGo: kgray, Balki, Jamie, damo, xorxes
damo: Balki, xorxes, rdrivera, kgray, bozo
worcej: BunnyGo, brainbomb, kgray, Balki, bo_sox
sulit: Jamie, brainbomb, bo_sox, emc, ?
Temasek: Jamie, kgray, emc, ?, ?
kgray: Jamie, brainbomb, Foxcastle, bozo, xorxes
Foxcastle: Fluminator, xorxes, Balki, Jamie, ?

@Balki, what's your take on the five other people besides Fox that had you as a top 5 townread, given that you are exactly the same as both alignments?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1969 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:04 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:59 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:43 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:42 pm
balki tends to be much more heavy handed and forced as scum. entering with large sermons or reads lists early that make no sense.
This is ridiculous. I am exactly the same as both alignments. Is this actually something that you think, or are you just spouting off words at random?
bozo: Balki, kgray, Jamie, xorxes, rdrivera
Jamie: xorxes, BunnyGo, kgray, sulit, rdrivera
xorxes: Jamie, brainbomb, bozo, damo, Foxcastle
rdrivera: Balki, xorxes, kgray, Fluminator, brainbomb
BunnyGo: kgray, Balki, Jamie, damo, xorxes
damo: Balki, xorxes, rdrivera, kgray, bozo
worcej: BunnyGo, brainbomb, kgray, Balki, bo_sox
sulit: Jamie, brainbomb, bo_sox, emc, ?
Temasek: Jamie, kgray, emc, ?, ?
kgray: Jamie, brainbomb, Foxcastle, bozo, xorxes
Foxcastle: Fluminator, xorxes, Balki, Jamie, ?

@Balki, what's your take on the five other people besides Fox that had you as a top 5 townread, given that you are exactly the same as both alignments?
Eh...

I think that someone coming after me with a hard scum read is a pretty effective town tell. But generally it is pretty NAI for someone to count me among their townreads.

In the case of Fox, it’s more than that. It’s that he called me his top town read, and it’s his general lack of confrontation and conviction all game.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1970 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:56 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:24 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:23 pm


Just did. I’m no longer a professor of mathematics teaching the logic class, but it’s definitely there. And this is definitely dull.
He has answered it now, but only because I asked him to.
Your inability to draw logical conclusions is not surprising having played many games with you. I suggest you go think about the part he’d written
I don't need to do that now, because he answered me.

You are being very tedious.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1971 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:58 pm
I believe you have also made similar claims as scum to try to get me mislynched—I'd have to be check to be sure, but you have definitely tried to get me mislynched with some of the other arguments you are making here.
That is irrelevant with regard to your alignment.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1972 Post by Foxcastle » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:09 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:58 pm
I believe you have also made similar claims as scum to try to get me mislynched—I'd have to be check to be sure, but you have definitely tried to get me mislynched with some of the other arguments you are making here.
That is irrelevant with regard to your alignment.
But relevant to yours.

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#1973 Post by xorxes » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:11 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:56 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:24 pm


He has answered it now, but only because I asked him to.
Your inability to draw logical conclusions is not surprising having played many games with you. I suggest you go think about the part he’d written
I don't need to do that now, because he answered me.

You are being very tedious.
What Bunny is trying to say is that:

A) if worcej is scum then tem is town

entails:

B) if tem is scum then worcej is town

Balki gave you a somewhat different answer, but that's because lawyer's logic and mathematician's logic is not exactly congruent.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1974 Post by Foxcastle » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:11 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:58 pm
I believe you have also made similar claims as scum to try to get me mislynched—I'd have to be check to be sure, but you have definitely tried to get me mislynched with some of the other arguments you are making here.
That is irrelevant with regard to your alignment.
It is relevant to your total lack of comprehension of how I play the game. Just because I'm not going batshit on the thread like Jamiet or others doesn't mean I'm scum. I'm not here to be a hero to WebDip Mafia, I'm here to enjoy some solving my own way.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1975 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:13 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:09 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:58 pm
I believe you have also made similar claims as scum to try to get me mislynched—I'd have to be check to be sure, but you have definitely tried to get me mislynched with some of the other arguments you are making here.
That is irrelevant with regard to your alignment.
But relevant to yours.
Yeah but I’m town.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1976 Post by Foxcastle » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:14 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:13 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:09 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 pm

That is irrelevant with regard to your alignment.
But relevant to yours.
Yeah but I’m town.
I encourage the scum team to confirm this for us at N3.

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#1977 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:18 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:13 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:09 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 pm

That is irrelevant with regard to your alignment.
But relevant to yours.
Yeah but I’m town.
"I know you are but what am I"
"I know you are but what am I"
"I know you are but what am I"
"I know you are but what am I"

This exchange between Balki and Fox is also becoming very, very tedious.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1978 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:20 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:18 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:13 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:09 pm


But relevant to yours.
Yeah but I’m town.
"I know you are but what am I"
"I know you are but what am I"
"I know you are but what am I"
"I know you are but what am I"

This exchange between Balki and Fox is also becoming very, very tedious.
And at no point has stopped triggering my scum theatre feeling

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1979 Post by Fluminator » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:21 pm

Fox kinda does feel town in this exchange.
Still probably metadiving because that's always fun. ;)

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1980 Post by Fluminator » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:27 pm

BobMcBob wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:48 pm
Look, I know you all hate me, but I will try to start participating later today. Until then I have a large exam (and I do have an assignment due on Wednesday) but I should be able to pick things up in a few hours.
Why do you think we hate you?

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