M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Fluminator]

Ehh, maybe.
Although a bunch of other people were there endorsing it. Him doing the final one isn't that unique to the others.

[rdrivera2005]

Chaqa, what are the odds you think a naked xorxes vote will accomplish anything?

It accomplishes at least that if I vote for him he can accuse me of omgus

##vote Xorxes

I just don't see any town indication on your posts and ending on Vecna isn't town Xorxes.

[xorxes]

Chaqa's evolution:

End voting is an awful idea and you guys are being insane to consider it.

+3 scum to any end voters

If there is going to be a hammer, can we at least lynch Vecna?

Bo as scum isn't usually a lurker, if I recall. Vecna is deliberately being different so he doesn't die, it would be funny if he, you know, did.

Why aren't you voting for Vecna, then?

Well, then it would be tied and someone could come in and hammer the day.

Oh, we need two more. Okay, fine.

##Vote Vecna

Hammer voting still is a bad idea.

It takes away a day of wagon analysis that will be crucially useful later.

That said, we do need more information.

Ugh.

Absolutely am against hammering this until Vecna has a chance to make a claim, FYI.

I'm hesitant for us to end this right now, for two reasons:
1. There seems to be absolutely no one defending Vecna, which I would expect at least a little of if he were scum.
2. Five people haven't yet cast votes. Three of them haven't posted. We would essentially have no information on any of them.

see, im postong and people try to endvote me. already afraid their easy mislynch wobt go through.

later losers. youre all still terrible at mafia

Endvoting is dumb.

##end

Oh I so want to call his bluff.

In fact, I'm strongly considering doing so.

Not sure if Vecna actually giving up, or Vecna pretending to give up.

Not sure how to read him without Caesar roleplay or :SQUAWK:-ing.

I'm firmly against hammering this.

I'm firmly against hammering this.

Why? Vecna is hammering himself.

You want to hammer him go ahead. I won't be one of the 9 is all.

I'm being annoyed by Vecna's attitude on this.

Flum, if you want to hammer, I guess I'll join, mainly to just get the information about this whole situation.

##END

PLEASE HOLD PHASE HAS ENDED

So you went from "endvoting is an awful idea", "endvoting is dumb", "I'm firmly against hammering this", "I won't be one of the 9" to being the one who seals the deal.

Even after Vecna voted to end himself, you were still against it, and needed more persuading.

[xorxes]

Ehh, maybe.
Although a bunch of other people were there endorsing it. Him doing the final one isn't that unique to the others.

It is kind of unique because he had been opposing the hammer all day. It was a bold move as either town or scum, because it was unnecessary. It's different from a clinch vote at EOD.

[BunnyGo]

Interestingly, the day 1 wagons
Temasek22 (7) brainbomb kgray Jamiet99uk bozotheclown rdrivera2005 Chaqa damo666
worcej (4) BunnyGo Fluminator Balki Bartokomous Foxcastle
brainbomb (3) Vecna bo_sox48 Temasek22

Looking at day 1, that's kind of interesting. Not sure it tells us anything.

RIP bo. Thanks Flum that’s interesting. At the time I had a post about how it was the scummiest wagon.

[damo666]

There were 4 people on both Tem and Vecna; kgray, ozo, Chaqa and me.

I purport at least one scum there (and max 3 coz I ain't) and my fav would be Chaqa who is not as engaged and solvey as he usually is as town.

^ worthless post.

^ stupid post

[BunnyGo]

I request andy be force-replaced if he doesn't post soon

Seconded.

[BunnyGo]

Chaqa, what are the odds you think a naked xorxes vote will accomplish anything?

It accomplishes at least that if I vote for him he can accuse me of omgus

LOL

[damo666]

Willing to lynch Flum, emc or Chaqa

[BunnyGo]

Willing to lynch Flum, emc or Chaqa

Chaq I understand, and Flum has some weirdness going on. Why EMC?

[BunnyGo]

Also, can anyone do an ISO on bo? It’ll take me a while.

[xorxes]

Willing to lynch Flum, emc or Chaqa

Chaq I understand, and Flum has some weirdness going on. Why EMC?

Has emc done anything towny, in your opinion?

[brainbomb]

I request andy be force-replaced if he doesn't post soon

Seconded.

Denied

If you are not able to vote before the hammer is dropped, you will not be penalized for failing to vote during that day

[BunnyGo]

Willing to lynch Flum, emc or Chaqa

Chaq I understand, and Flum has some weirdness going on. Why EMC?

Has emc done anything towny, in your opinion?

I’d have to go to his ISO later to be sure. Nothing jumps at me purely from memory. But I haven’t checked. Will do later.

[Foxcastle]

I'm going to start with ##VOTE CHAQA

Killing Bo is an interesting way to narrow the lurkier end of the pool. Are they trying to convince to mislynch the last of the lurkers, or daring us to? Given that the remaining players down there are EMC, Pjandy, and Bob, I would bet that one of them is scum.

Or maybe it's two. Maybe it's two of them and one experienced player on the main team, and the experienced player is the killer, and he knows that if he gets caught, it's likely that the scum team will get modkilled for the loss (or just that new players will get hosed by town), and that's why he's been targeting players unlikely to be Watched. I feel like Bozo is the best bet for that scenario, actually. Or maybe Balki. (Not that I scumread them for their play otherwise.)

[BunnyGo]

@Chaq can you explain why you were sure to survive the night?

[Jamiet99uk]

PJANDY ISO:

Appears on page 33 and claims VT.

Says he has some suspicions but does not list any reads. Attemps to vote No Lynch because "we need a diversion" (whatever that means??) but gets the voting syntax wrong.

On page 38 makes a long flavour-style post in which he is putting on some kind of Mayor character. I did wonder if this was an elaborate crumb but now I don't think so.

Page 39 manages to vote No Lynch at the third attempt.

On N1, he agrees with Flum that Brainbomb's scumreads are "boring", says he needs to read through D1.

Then he disappears and has not posted since.

[Jamiet99uk]

@BobMcBob: Your free pass for subbing in has expired. Please participate in the game.

[damo666]

Willing to lynch Flum, emc or Chaqa

Chaq I understand, and Flum has some weirdness going on. Why EMC?

uselessness

[Fluminator]

Willing to lynch Flum, emc or Chaqa

I'm down on 2/3