M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Jamiet99uk]

Absolutely am against hammering this until Vecna has a chance to make a claim, FYI.

He claimed he was not a PR.

Please dont NK me scum, I promise im not lurking because im a PR, im just being lazy

[worcej]

You'd have voted for yourself?

I think you've inadverdently admitted that your randomness claim is complete bollocks

Everyone has at least a few people that they won't vote for on D1, for different considerations, so I don't believe he would just randomly vote for whoever the die told him without some filtering, even if he did roll a die.

Exactly. He's lying. But why? Suspicious.

I think you're jumping to a conclusion to state he is lying. There is no way to prove what he actually did.

[BunnyGo]

Well never mind on the Flum-Chaqa part...

Umm...no. Not never mind. This is interesting.

Flum changed his vote from Chaqa to Bo while I was typing that.

Ah. From my POV he was responding.

[worcej]

isn't that 18?

Unfortunately there's no such thing as a d18.

Lying scum!

https://www.thediceshoponline.com/cat/1 ... ACEALw_wcB

I think you found the most useless dice ever...

[kgray]

Umm...no. Not never mind. This is interesting.

Flum changed his vote from Chaqa to Bo while I was typing that.

Ah. From my POV he was responding.

What do you mean by that?

[BunnyGo]

We hid in the ravine as a column of APCs rolled by. The army was gunning down patients. Janet turned to me and shook her head "no" as I clutched an onion, intending to huck it at a passing tank.

Vecna (6) Balki Bartokomous* xorxes* kgray Chaqa damo666* Fluminator*
bo_sox48 (3) Foxcastle* BunnyGo* Jamiet99uk
Pjandy (2) worcej rdrivera2005*
e.m.c^42 (1) bozotheclown


End-votes (7/17):
Balki Bartokomous rdrivera2005 BunnyGo Foxcastle xorxes damo666 Fluminator


Highest end-vote count was 4 for bo_sox48 at 27:40 before deadline.


Non-votes
bo_sox48, e.m.c^42, Pjandy, BobMcBob, Vecna

With 17 alive it takes 9 End votes all on the same player at the same time as recorded by the bot.

Currently Vecna is scheduled to be burned alive

26.5 hours remain in Day 2

I demand the next game be escapist. I can’t stand this theme. I’m trying to escape from the stress of the world.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Pjandy
@BobMcBob

Would you consider voting for Bo_Sox to put some pressure on him?

@e.m.c^42

Would you consider voting at all?

[worcej]

If there is going to be a hammer, can we at least lynch Vecna?

Bo as scum isn't usually a lurker, if I recall. Vecna is deliberately being different so he doesn't die, it would be funny if he, you know, did.

You now have the power to make this happen. Are you willing to stick your neck out?

[Chaqa]

##End

L-2

When at L-1, do not hammer before intent

What does this mean? Before intent?

[worcej]

We hid in the ravine as a column of APCs rolled by. The army was gunning down patients. Janet turned to me and shook her head "no" as I clutched an onion, intending to huck it at a passing tank.

Vecna (6) Balki Bartokomous* xorxes* kgray Chaqa damo666* Fluminator*
bo_sox48 (3) Foxcastle* BunnyGo* Jamiet99uk
Pjandy (2) worcej rdrivera2005*
e.m.c^42 (1) bozotheclown


End-votes (7/17):
Balki Bartokomous rdrivera2005 BunnyGo Foxcastle xorxes damo666 Fluminator


Highest end-vote count was 4 for bo_sox48 at 27:40 before deadline.


Non-votes
bo_sox48, e.m.c^42, Pjandy, BobMcBob, Vecna

With 17 alive it takes 9 End votes all on the same player at the same time as recorded by the bot.

Currently Vecna is scheduled to be burned alive

26.5 hours remain in Day 2

I demand the next game be escapist. I can’t stand this theme. I’m trying to escape from the stress of the world.

I got you covered boo.

[Jamiet99uk]

Unfortunately there's no such thing as a d18.

Lying scum!

https://www.thediceshoponline.com/cat/1 ... ACEALw_wcB

I think you found the most useless dice ever...

How can you say that, when Chaqa has demonstrated how useful it would have been to him in this game, already?

[BunnyGo]

Also, since it's a relevant variable.

And reviewing the bot at this point, we are two votes away from a majority.

Not gunna lie - this excites me. This provides some interesting analysis on who wants to be the last one to pull the trigger.

##end

##GM NOTE
this is incorrect
you will notice that the bot records both who is end voting, and how many people are end voting.

In order for majority to be hammered all "9" end votes must all be on the same player.

That is explicitly NOT the rules. Is this an official GM change?

[worcej]

##End

L-2

When at L-1, do not hammer before intent

What does this mean? Before intent?

It means if you put an end vote out you better be damn aware that you are the one ending the phase.

[worcej]

And reviewing the bot at this point, we are two votes away from a majority.

Not gunna lie - this excites me. This provides some interesting analysis on who wants to be the last one to pull the trigger.

##end

##GM NOTE
this is incorrect
you will notice that the bot records both who is end voting, and how many people are end voting.

In order for majority to be hammered all "9" end votes must all be on the same player.

That is explicitly NOT the rules. Is this an official GM change?

He addressed it. Move on.

[Chaqa]

We hid in the ravine as a column of APCs rolled by. The army was gunning down patients. Janet turned to me and shook her head "no" as I clutched an onion, intending to huck it at a passing tank.

Vecna (6) Balki Bartokomous* xorxes* kgray Chaqa damo666* Fluminator*
bo_sox48 (3) Foxcastle* BunnyGo* Jamiet99uk
Pjandy (2) worcej rdrivera2005*
e.m.c^42 (1) bozotheclown


End-votes (7/17):
Balki Bartokomous rdrivera2005 BunnyGo Foxcastle xorxes damo666 Fluminator


Highest end-vote count was 4 for bo_sox48 at 27:40 before deadline.


Non-votes
bo_sox48, e.m.c^42, Pjandy, BobMcBob, Vecna

With 17 alive it takes 9 End votes all on the same player at the same time as recorded by the bot.

Currently Vecna is scheduled to be burned alive

26.5 hours remain in Day 2

##CallGM: this is not how the rules say the end votes will be enforced. The bot has never been updated/given functionality for different end vote rules.

[Chaqa]

Also, since it's a relevant variable.

And reviewing the bot at this point, we are two votes away from a majority.

Not gunna lie - this excites me. This provides some interesting analysis on who wants to be the last one to pull the trigger.

##end

##GM NOTE
this is incorrect
you will notice that the bot records both who is end voting, and how many people are end voting.

In order for majority to be hammered all "9" end votes must all be on the same player.

The bot is not the rules. The rules/game thread start state the hammer mechanic. The bot has never had support for this method of end votes, and is not the end-all.

[worcej]

Jesus you people suck at reading the thread sometimes - he addressed the issue.

[Chaqa]

##Call GM:
The rules specifically say a majority of the players need to vote end to hammer the day. How is the current interpretation incorrect?

I feel like you are rewinding a rule setup for this game.

You are correct worcej. I just thought we got rid of that style of hammering. Neph is gm I will adhere obviously to his rule. my mistake for not thoroughly reading.

For some further context on this:

Back in the day, we did require all end votes to also be on the same player in order to end a phase.

For one of the games in the last few years (M19 or maybe M30, or something more recent?) I made a change to use this system of end votes, separating them from regular votes, because I think it's more interesting.

Every other GM has followed suit (or just copied over the simplified/rewritten rules I made) since then.

The bot has never been updated to reflect this or have an option AFAIK.

[Chaqa]

Absolutely am against hammering this until Vecna has a chance to make a claim, FYI.

He claimed he was not a PR.

Please dont NK me scum, I promise im not lurking because im a PR, im just being lazy

I took this as being sarcastic.

[Chaqa]

Jesus you people suck at reading the thread sometimes - he addressed the issue.

I'm being a Flavius right now.