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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1381 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:43 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:16 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
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Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:57 pm
End voting is an awful idea and you guys are being insane to consider it.
Says the useless lurker.
No ties everyone!
You'll never get into this nightclub with that attitude.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1382 Post by Chaqa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:43 pm

damo666 wrote:
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:08 am
##Vote Chaqa
He's not going to lurk his way out of answering my question.

He didn't want Tem as the only wagon so he naked voted Bozo as an alternative he wanted. When I asked why he ignored and lurked.

Now he's forgetting Bozo existed.
I know his strategy is lurk to avoid accountability, but I will not let him.
I rolled a d20 and it came up Bozo.

As I said, Day 1 my main philosophy is anyone but me
isn't that 18?
Unfortunately there's no such thing as a d18.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1383 Post by Chaqa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:43 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:24 pm
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Fluminator wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:57 pm


Was everyone on the d20?
Well, there were 19 people, so if I had rolled a 20 I guess I’d have rerolled
You'd have voted for yourself?

I think you've inadverdently admitted that your randomness claim is complete bollocks
You're overthinking this.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1384 Post by Fluminator » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:44 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:18 pm
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:11 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:57 pm
End voting is an awful idea and you guys are being insane to consider it.
It is also insane that we play game after game where scum lurk and get away with it. A lot of people are guilty of it (including me and you in previous games, and I can even recalling both of us saying that we were going to lurk to coast through). And unless we create disincentives for it, scum will keep doing it because it works.
I'm not suggesting that lynching lurkers is a bad idea. I'm saying end voting is.

That's how you lynch a town PR (not that we have many of those left anyway...)
I do really have to point out the irony of this. Chaqa, are you playing stupid?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1385 Post by Fluminator » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:45 pm

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Well, within reason. I wouldn't have voted for myself.
Would you vote brain or tem?
They're dead?
Yesterday, before they died, with the dice roll

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1386 Post by Chaqa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:46 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:29 pm
Chaqa wrote:
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It is also insane that we play game after game where scum lurk and get away with it. A lot of people are guilty of it (including me and you in previous games, and I can even recalling both of us saying that we were going to lurk to coast through). And unless we create disincentives for it, scum will keep doing it because it works.
I'm not suggesting that lynching lurkers is a bad idea. I'm saying end voting is.

That's how you lynch a town PR (not that we have many of those left anyway...)
Everybody thinks lynching lurkers is a fine idea, but it never happens, ever. So that's a useless sentiment.

What do you think of Worcej's analysis that in recent games, the lurker pool has been at least 50% scum?
Worcej was one of the few people I felt good about on Day 1. I would rank him town and I think his analysis is spot on.

Lurkers being where scum hide is nothing new. Part of the reason I historically played as a lurker was so I would be seen as too scummy to night-kill, since I'm really not much use to town until the midgame.

Though nowadays it's more that I'm busy. This game is rough because I work during the day.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1387 Post by Chaqa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:46 pm

xorxes wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:29 pm
damo666 wrote:
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Well, there were 19 people, so if I had rolled a 20 I guess I’d have rerolled
You'd have voted for yourself?

I think you've inadverdently admitted that your randomness claim is complete bollocks
Everyone has at least a few people that they won't vote for on D1, for different considerations, so I don't believe he would just randomly vote for whoever the die told him without some filtering, even if he did roll a die.
I got lucky and rolled someone I would vote for, though.

Do I need to take a picture of me holding the die I use? lol

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1388 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:47 pm

Chaqa is no longer a useless lurker. Thank you, Chaqa.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1389 Post by Chaqa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:47 pm

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I wish Chaqa could respond to the questions faster while he's here lol.
No one's ever accused me of being too fast.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1390 Post by Chaqa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:47 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:44 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:18 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:11 pm


It is also insane that we play game after game where scum lurk and get away with it. A lot of people are guilty of it (including me and you in previous games, and I can even recalling both of us saying that we were going to lurk to coast through). And unless we create disincentives for it, scum will keep doing it because it works.
I'm not suggesting that lynching lurkers is a bad idea. I'm saying end voting is.

That's how you lynch a town PR (not that we have many of those left anyway...)
I do really have to point out the irony of this. Chaqa, are you playing stupid?
Who said I was playing?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1391 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:47 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:43 pm
damo666 wrote:
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Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:51 pm


I rolled a d20 and it came up Bozo.

As I said, Day 1 my main philosophy is anyone but me
isn't that 18?
Unfortunately there's no such thing as a d18.
Lying scum!

https://www.thediceshoponline.com/cat/1 ... ACEALw_wcB

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1392 Post by Chaqa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:48 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:45 pm
Chaqa wrote:
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Would you vote brain or tem?
They're dead?
Yesterday, before they died, with the dice roll
Probably not, since the whole point was to see if anyone would jump on another also-ran wagon. Maybe brain.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1393 Post by Chaqa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:49 pm

If there is going to be a hammer, can we at least lynch Vecna?

Bo as scum isn't usually a lurker, if I recall. Vecna is deliberately being different so he doesn't die, it would be funny if he, you know, did.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1394 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:53 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:43 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:22 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:51 pm


I rolled a d20 and it came up Bozo.

As I said, Day 1 my main philosophy is anyone but me
isn't that 18?
Unfortunately there's no such thing as a d18.
The mathematician in me wants to point out that you should google “persi diacconis fair die” and watch the numberphile videos. There are more fair dice than the standard DnD Archimedean solids.

Sorry for distracting, let’s get back to the game.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1395 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:54 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:49 pm
If there is going to be a hammer, can we at least lynch Vecna?

Bo as scum isn't usually a lurker, if I recall. Vecna is deliberately being different so he doesn't die, it would be funny if he, you know, did.
Why aren't you voting for Vecna, then?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1396 Post by Chaqa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:57 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:54 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:49 pm
If there is going to be a hammer, can we at least lynch Vecna?

Bo as scum isn't usually a lurker, if I recall. Vecna is deliberately being different so he doesn't die, it would be funny if he, you know, did.
Why aren't you voting for Vecna, then?
Well, then it would be tied and someone could come in and hammer the day.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1397 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:57 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:46 pm
xorxes wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:29 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:24 pm


You'd have voted for yourself?

I think you've inadverdently admitted that your randomness claim is complete bollocks
Everyone has at least a few people that they won't vote for on D1, for different considerations, so I don't believe he would just randomly vote for whoever the die told him without some filtering, even if he did roll a die.
I got lucky and rolled someone I would vote for, though.

Do I need to take a picture of me holding the die I use? lol
You use a real die and not an online “roller”? You SCUM!

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1398 Post by Chaqa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:57 pm

Oh, we need two more. Okay, fine.

##Vote Vecna

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1399 Post by kgray » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:00 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:57 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:54 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:49 pm
If there is going to be a hammer, can we at least lynch Vecna?

Bo as scum isn't usually a lurker, if I recall. Vecna is deliberately being different so he doesn't die, it would be funny if he, you know, did.
Why aren't you voting for Vecna, then?
Well, then it would be tied and someone could come in and hammer the day.
If someone does that, we know they're scum, right?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1400 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:00 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:57 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:54 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:49 pm
If there is going to be a hammer, can we at least lynch Vecna?

Bo as scum isn't usually a lurker, if I recall. Vecna is deliberately being different so he doesn't die, it would be funny if he, you know, did.
Why aren't you voting for Vecna, then?
Well, then it would be tied and someone could come in and hammer the day.
That would be very scummy. Also, I put in a GM call about how he’s doing hammer counting.

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