M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Foxcastle]

This end voting is a mistake given the vote distribution is not considered. It is too easily manipulated by scum.

Anybody not unending I will consider to be a scum.

Happy to vote any of the lurkers.

If scum want to show themselves this way, let them.

Also, the whole "if you don't do this, you are scum" is... just not a good play. Either you don't mean it, or you're just announcing the rubric for scum to play by.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Nunny why not just ask for 4 scumreads?

Why four now?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Nunny why not just ask for 4 scumreads?

Why four now?

Oh sorry, scumreads. I thought you meant four townreads.

[damo666]

B sorry

[damo666]

How about this for a theory?

There is always an example of busing on day 1.

Top 3 wagons were TvTvT ( worcej the only unknown but widely townread).

Xorxes never busses.

Hence EMC and Flum are a scumpair.

Voila!

[damo666]

This end voting is a mistake given the vote distribution is not considered. It is too easily manipulated by scum.

Anybody not unending I will consider to be a scum.

Happy to vote any of the lurkers.

If scum want to show themselves this way, let them.

Also, the whole "if you don't do this, you are scum" is... just not a good play. Either you don't mean it, or you're just announcing the rubric for scum to play by.

Ok fair point.

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[damo666]

Take care. Three more end votes to end. The ninth ender should ensure the vote is not tied before ending.

[Foxcastle]

How about this for a theory?

There is always an example of busing on day 1.

Top 3 wagons were TvTvT ( worcej the only unknown but widely townread).

Xorxes never busses.

Hence EMC and Flum are a scumpair.

Voila!

I'm open to this if you can demonstrate that it's common in prior games, and in particular if you can demonstrate scum-EMC and scum-Flum bussing.

[Foxcastle]

This end voting is a mistake given the vote distribution is not considered. It is too easily manipulated by scum.

Anybody not unending I will consider to be a scum.

Happy to vote any of the lurkers.

If scum want to show themselves this way, let them.

Also, the whole "if you don't do this, you are scum" is... just not a good play. Either you don't mean it, or you're just announcing the rubric for scum to play by.

Ok fair point.

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That's quite the 180 from using it as a basis for a scumread to doing it yourself in the space of 17 minutes!

[damo666]

If scum want to show themselves this way, let them.

Also, the whole "if you don't do this, you are scum" is... just not a good play. Either you don't mean it, or you're just announcing the rubric for scum to play by.

Ok fair point.

##end

That's quite the 180 from using it as a basis for a scumread to doing it yourself in the space of 17 minutes!

You were so convincing!

[damo666]

How about this for a theory?

There is always an example of busing on day 1.

Top 3 wagons were TvTvT ( worcej the only unknown but widely townread).

Xorxes never busses.

Hence EMC and Flum are a scumpair.

Voila!

I'm open to this if you can demonstrate that it's common in prior games, and in particular if you can demonstrate scum-EMC and scum-Flum bussing.

That's too much hard work! Anyway EMC is usually either 3p or puts in a useless late vote. I can't remember either of them as scum tbf.

[damo666]

##vote bo for pressure

[xorxes]

The bot cancels the ##end vote when you change your vote, that's why Flum and damo are not currently ending according to the bot. Not sure if the GMs will follow the same rule.

[BunnyGo]

@Nunny why not just ask for 4 scumreads?

I could have. But bozo asked for 5. I had 4 strong ones and a bunch close for 5th.

[BunnyGo]

@Nunny why not just ask for 4 scumreads?

I could have. But bozo asked for 5. I had 4 strong ones and a bunch close for 5th.

Oh. And bozo asked for townreads too. It makes sense to keep the same metric.

[Jamiet99uk]

How about this for a theory?

There is always an example of busing on day 1.

Top 3 wagons were TvTvT ( worcej the only unknown but widely townread).

Xorxes never busses.

Hence EMC and Flum are a scumpair.

Voila!

I'm open to this if you can demonstrate that it's common in prior games, and in particular if you can demonstrate scum-EMC and scum-Flum bussing.

That's too much hard work! Anyway EMC is usually either 3p or puts in a useless late vote. I can't remember either of them as scum tbf.

EMC was scum in the last game, and I caught him, on the first day. I believe that is the only game where he has been on the main Mafia team. (I think he was also Third Party in at least one game, but that's not useful for this analysis as the Third Party doesn't know who is on the Mafia team either).

In that game, on D1, the only day he was alive, EMC voted for BunnyGo (and no-one else, he didn't move his vote), and BunnyGo was a Vanilla Town.

So the one time EMC ever cast a vote as Mafia, he didn't bus. But that's a very limited amount of information to determine whether he ever *would* bus.

[Fluminator]

If the bot doesn't cancel then next end vote lynches Bo Sox.
This just got interesting.
Absolutely no one should do the final hammer without saying "intent to hammer" first to give time for last words.

[Fluminator]

I got nothing. Had a brief look at the 4 vt claims. Didn't like flum's, but doesn't actually indicate anything necessarily. Balki's was interesting, I doubt he's patient zero. Although that may have been the purpose... I don't understand why bunny said it was a townslip though, or why Balki thought bunny scumslipped? I'll try to actually do something eventually. See you guys tomorrow.

What do you think of Flum's ability to claim to read 2 posts knowing the player is the cop and not see a crumb?

What do iron chariots and osmosis jones have anything to do with cops

[Foxcastle]

I got nothing. Had a brief look at the 4 vt claims. Didn't like flum's, but doesn't actually indicate anything necessarily. Balki's was interesting, I doubt he's patient zero. Although that may have been the purpose... I don't understand why bunny said it was a townslip though, or why Balki thought bunny scumslipped? I'll try to actually do something eventually. See you guys tomorrow.

What do you think of Flum's ability to claim to read 2 posts knowing the player is the cop and not see a crumb?

What do iron chariots and osmosis jones have anything to do with cops

Osmosis Jones was an animated movie about a white blood cell who is a cop... So maybe Brainbomb did crumb, or maybe it was inadvertent and they saw that and thought it was a crumb.

[BunnyGo]

What do you think of Flum's ability to claim to read 2 posts knowing the player is the cop and not see a crumb?

What do iron chariots and osmosis jones have anything to do with cops

Osmosis Jones was an animated movie about a white blood cell who is a cop... So maybe Brainbomb did crumb, or maybe it was inadvertent and they saw that and thought it was a crumb.

But I think Flum’s obtuseness about this is not good. Normally Flum seems able to connect dots.