M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[xorxes]

What do you think of the theory that scum hides among lurkers, and how it might apply to these lurkers?

I don’t really buy into that theory, honestly. But I don’t have any great leads right now among people who are playing, which increases the odds of catching scum among the dodgers. And I’m just particularly annoyed at Bo and Vecna for their haughty attitudes.

It is a very difficult game if the norm is that people can just skip the whole thing.

I think after last game were scum were all the the bottom posters the scumteam on this game will probably try another tactic. But we can usually find at least one scum between the lurkers, the problem is finding the right one with almost no info.
From this trio, Vecna is the one I am less inclined to push a lynch, I think he might be trying to avoid an early NK. I would not mind lynching bo or Andy and even Sulit slot deserve to be considered if the sub doesn't engage.

This would work better if everyone votes early so we have hefty wagons througout the day rather than just for the last couple of hours.

[BunnyGo]

I don’t really buy into that theory, honestly. But I don’t have any great leads right now among people who are playing, which increases the odds of catching scum among the dodgers. And I’m just particularly annoyed at Bo and Vecna for their haughty attitudes.

It is a very difficult game if the norm is that people can just skip the whole thing.

I think after last game were scum were all the the bottom posters the scumteam on this game will probably try another tactic. But we can usually find at least one scum between the lurkers, the problem is finding the right one with almost no info.
From this trio, Vecna is the one I am less inclined to push a lynch, I think he might be trying to avoid an early NK. I would not mind lynching bo or Andy and even Sulit slot deserve to be considered if the sub doesn't engage.

This would work better if everyone votes early so we have hefty wagons througout the day rather than just for the last couple of hours.

Does it also make a case for Flum's idea of using hammer votes to bring the EOD to a closer and more permanent time during the day?

[xorxes]

##Vote EMC

I also just realized how little xorxes has done so far.

I just realized you did not end with this vote, how come? Were you serious about it D1, or was it just something to say?

[xorxes]

I think after last game were scum were all the the bottom posters the scumteam on this game will probably try another tactic. But we can usually find at least one scum between the lurkers, the problem is finding the right one with almost no info.
From this trio, Vecna is the one I am less inclined to push a lynch, I think he might be trying to avoid an early NK. I would not mind lynching bo or Andy and even Sulit slot deserve to be considered if the sub doesn't engage.

This would work better if everyone votes early so we have hefty wagons througout the day rather than just for the last couple of hours.

Does it also make a case for Flum's idea of using hammer votes to bring the EOD to a closer and more permanent time during the day?

I'm not fully convinced about it, but I'm open to hear the pros and cons.

I understand it makes it more dramatic, but one problem is timezones and people's schedules that may leave some people out altogether if we hammer early, and they may not be given a chance to defend or claim if they need to.

[bozotheclown]

And alas this is why we can’t have night things,

With the dissolution of no WHO the people took it on themselves to wipe out the virus. They were united as one. It was so easy, so obvious.

They followed it back to the source and did what had to be done.

There was no more corona.

Brainbomb has died, they were the the town role cop

That was surprising, and unfortunate. Either the mafia were afraid of the watcher and picked someone they thought was unlikely to be watched, or they figured out he was a PR.

[bozotheclown]

I liked Damo's EOD actions.
He can be my first strong town read.

Knowing Temasek was town, I agree damo's moves seem town motivated.

[bozotheclown]

You may have claimed in your first post, but I softed long before that.
I'm never vanilla town, so claiming I was, was obviously a message to the mafia

This sounds like you are repeating Balki's town slip by implying the mafia do not know the identify of patient zero.

[bozotheclown]

So, my thoughts on worcej:

(1) I felt like his apparent strong townread on Tem was really surprising, and I don't think he has justified it well. I just can't understand how someone in worcej's shoes would conclude strongly that Tem was Town on Day 1, and his continual justification that "Tem seemed like bad town," while refusing to explain why that explanation was more likely to him on Day 1 than "bad scum" strikes me as defensive and dismissive. (and obnoxious, but that's NAI)

(2) Though...defensiveness and dismissiveness are not all that alignment indicative. And, I'm getting this righteous indignation from worcej that I feel like I get a lot from people I have mislynched in the past. Worcej is so combative and refuses to compromise or capitulate in a way that I find very townie. Scum!worcej would back down and try to please me, at least a little.

So, I am leaning town!worcej for the moment.

I generally agree with this assessment of worcej. Although I do not see why worcej would be so sure Temasek was town if he thought Temasek was playing poorly, when worcej has been lynched for things like this in the past, he seems to always flip town.

[bozotheclown]

I still find BunnyGo's start to D1 suspicious, but otherwise his posts seem town motivated.

[bozotheclown]

I think we have a big problem with lurkers. Besides being low posters, bo_sox, emc, Pjandy, sulit, and Vecna said very little that had to do with the game and made no contribution to EOD.

emc was online at EOD but made no effort to make his vote count.

##VOTE emc

[Balki Bartokomous]

I think we have a big problem with lurkers. Besides being low posters, bo_sox, emc, Pjandy, sulit, and Vecna said very little that had to do with the game and made no contribution to EOD.

emc was online at EOD but made no effort to make his vote count.

##VOTE emc

Well, when emc made his vote, the two leading lynch candidates were both town. Tem had 6, brain had 3. So, it would have been pretty easy for emc to "make his vote count" at that stage. No partners in danger, a couple of townies on the noose...why cast a vote for Flum in that scenario?

I could see it if emc and Flum are scum together. An easy chance to distance. That's possible. But if Flum is town, it seems like an unusual vote for scum to make.

Thoughts?

[Fluminator]

tldr;

1) I don't understand how Fulminator could have looked for crumbs and not found them. That's really suspicious.

2) Brain was all over vecna, all day and night.

3) By the end he was mostly harping on low posters, but also threw in bozo and rivera as distant candidates. Never seemed to like Chaq.

4) Strong townread on jamie, kgray, worcej. Town lean Balki. Seemed to town lean me, but then had one post saying he wanted a closer look.

5) Said xorxes was an enigma.

@Fulm Did you actually look for crumbs when you said you did? Did you see those 2 posts? Did you think about them?

I skimmed his posts, and didn't see anything obvious.
I still don't see anything really.

[Fluminator]

##Vote EMC

I also just realized how little xorxes has done so far.

I just realized you did not end with this vote, how come? Were you serious about it D1, or was it just something to say?

Other than Bunnygo and brain, no one seemed to care. I'll still do it
##end

[Fluminator]

##Vote Chaqa
He's not going to lurk his way out of answering my question.

He didn't want Tem as the only wagon so he naked voted Bozo as an alternative he wanted. When I asked why he ignored and lurked.

Now he's forgetting Bozo existed.
I know his strategy is lurk to avoid accountability, but I will not let him.

[Fluminator]

It would be good for there to be a counter wagon to Tem that isn’t brainbomb.

Or me.

I’m gonna throw out a ##Vote Bozo

##Vote xorxes

I could see an experienced scum team killing brain, both for removing a town leader and a high-volume poster, as well as due to his meta shift.

I suspect that at least 2 scum team members are in: xorxes, Vecna, Fluminator, Balki.

I also think Fox is scum, worcej is town.

Jamiet seems town so far. Damo too.

Bunny is impossible for me to read.

EMC and Bo are the worst.

Anyone else hasn't left an impact on me yet.

[Balki Bartokomous]

##vote end

Yeah, we need people to play with a sense of urgency.

[brainbomb]

It was midday when the blackhawk helicopters landed outside of Flint. I used to think the water supply would kill ya. I never imagined going to Dillards and seeing fema tents in the parking lot. The bodies burning on the asphalt. All this for some bat soup...

Vecna (2) Balki Bartokomous* xorxes
Fluminator (1) damo666
xorxes (1) Chaqa
bo_sox48 (1) Foxcastle
Pjandy (1) worcej
e.m.c^42 (1) bozotheclown
Chaqa (1) Fluminator

End-votes (1/17):
Balki Bartokomous
Highest end-vote count was 1 for e.m.c^42 at 36:55 before deadline.

Non-votes
bo_sox48, BunnyGo, e.m.c^42, Jamiet99uk, kgray, Pjandy, rdrivera2005, Vecna


##Neph and I have secured a sub for Sulit. they will be announced as soon as possible.##

[brainbomb]

##GM NOTE

BobMcbob has replaced sulit

[BobMcBob]

And no, I'm probably not gonna read all 65 pages. Sorry. I may be a little lurky, a lack of time for playing was the original reason I didn't join. But I'll try... Anyone wanna give me a synopsis of important events to check out? I'll be skimming through the bot, but I definitely won't get through all of it.

[Nephthys]

For the bot as I don't think updated

BobMcBob has replaced sulit