M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[xorxes]

Bush did 911

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This back and forth between Flum and Balki plus the patient zero counterclaims is kind of cringe.

[worcej]

Do we have a replacement for solit?

Xorxes, why do you think brainbomb was nightkilled?

It really is a weird choice, I don't remember any game when brain was NKd before becoming a clear. It usually doesn't help a lot to speculate on reasons for the NK because they get wifomy very quickly. The obvious one would be if he crumbed something, which I haven't noticed, but I will be reareading him. Maybe he had good reads, or maybe he had bad reads and they want us to think he had good reads. Or maybe the scumteam is all inexperienced players, or they want us to think they are all inexperienced players, or... I don't really think this line of investigation is all that useful.

This would make sense if for the first time in recent memory that the D1 kill from a mafia team was because 'what the hell?'

Recent reads of the mafia QT post-game show there is a discussed reason behind the kill.

[Fluminator]

I think we're hilarious

[kgray]

Bush did 911

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This back and forth between Flum and Balki plus the patient zero counterclaims is kind of cringe.

A lot of their interactions are kind of cringe. I don't think they are both mafia.

[xorxes]

##Vote xorxes

I could see an experienced scum team killing brain, both for removing a town leader and a high-volume poster, as well as due to his meta shift.

Yes, but you did not read closely Fox's description. You have not been away from games for a while.

I suspect that at least 2 scum team members are in: xorxes, Vecna, Fluminator, Balki.

Possible. It's not me though.

I also think Fox is scum, worcej is town.

Why is Fox scum?

Jamiet seems town so far. Damo too.

Yes.

Bunny is impossible for me to read.

He had that townslip thing, but other than that he has been towny enough.

EMC and Bo are the worst.

bo more than emc, but yes.

Anyone else hasn't left an impact on me yet.

Were any of them college roomates with you?

[xorxes]

Yet you voted Bozo at EOD1?
Surely he made an impact on you?

[worcej]

As Fox has mentioned when discussing me, if you think about it, getting the three of us roused up creates a lot of noise and drowns the game out a bit. BB also mentioned this near his demise.

Do you think there are any particular conversations that have been drowned out by the noise? If Balki is intentionally creating drama, what is he covering up? And why do you think his interrogation tactic is more likely used by scum than by town trying to figure out alignments? Do you really think it's all just "noise" and we can't learn anything from those interactions?

Hot-take: You seem to be someone who assumes things when reading what someone says.

I don't think there needs to be anything specific to cover up. A distraction of any sort would be acceptable if that is the goal.

I never said I thought his interrogation tactic is more likely used by scum than town. Yes Balki is doing this, but upon re-read he seems to implement it when he knows he has gotten under someone's skin. With that in mind, how exactly is he helping town?

And I also didn't imply I didn't learn anything from his interactions. I think I have a decent read on Bunny and Jamie because of it.

[xorxes]

Do we have a replacement for solit?

Xorxes, why do you think brainbomb was nightkilled?

It really is a weird choice, I don't remember any game when brain was NKd before becoming a clear. It usually doesn't help a lot to speculate on reasons for the NK because they get wifomy very quickly. The obvious one would be if he crumbed something, which I haven't noticed, but I will be reareading him. Maybe he had good reads, or maybe he had bad reads and they want us to think he had good reads. Or maybe the scumteam is all inexperienced players, or they want us to think they are all inexperienced players, or... I don't really think this line of investigation is all that useful.

This is some bullshit. Just because it’s WIFOMy, we shouldn’t even discuss?

If I thought we shouldn't discuss it I wouldn't be discussing it. What I'm saying is I don't think it will tell us a lot, at least not directly.

[xorxes]

##Vote EMC

I also just realized how little xorxes has done so far.

Why did you just realize that? You were not paying attention to me before, or is it something else?

I wasn't paying much attention to you day 1.

And then you reread me, and you found out that I contributed less than most everyone else?

[xorxes]

It really is a weird choice, I don't remember any game when brain was NKd before becoming a clear. It usually doesn't help a lot to speculate on reasons for the NK because they get wifomy very quickly. The obvious one would be if he crumbed something, which I haven't noticed, but I will be reareading him. Maybe he had good reads, or maybe he had bad reads and they want us to think he had good reads. Or maybe the scumteam is all inexperienced players, or they want us to think they are all inexperienced players, or... I don't really think this line of investigation is all that useful.

This is some bullshit. Just because it’s WIFOMy, we shouldn’t even discuss?

It is wifomy, but Night Kill Analysis is super underrated in like all forums lol.

I didn't notice any crumbs either. I think him being a PR might just be unfortunate coincidence.

What is your theory then, why was he killed?

[xorxes]

Do we have a replacement for solit?

Xorxes, why do you think brainbomb was nightkilled?

It really is a weird choice, I don't remember any game when brain was NKd before becoming a clear. It usually doesn't help a lot to speculate on reasons for the NK because they get wifomy very quickly. The obvious one would be if he crumbed something, which I haven't noticed, but I will be reareading him. Maybe he had good reads, or maybe he had bad reads and they want us to think he had good reads. Or maybe the scumteam is all inexperienced players, or they want us to think they are all inexperienced players, or... I don't really think this line of investigation is all that useful.

This would make sense if for the first time in recent memory that the D1 kill from a mafia team was because 'what the hell?'

Recent reads of the mafia QT post-game show there is a discussed reason behind the kill.

The point is that for every reason we can speculate, it is also possible that they wanted us to think that was the reason.

But I'm not opposed to discussing reasons. What do you think is the most likely?

[xorxes]

I think we're hilarious

My ribs hurt from laughing so much.

[kgray]

As Fox has mentioned when discussing me, if you think about it, getting the three of us roused up creates a lot of noise and drowns the game out a bit. BB also mentioned this near his demise.

Do you think there are any particular conversations that have been drowned out by the noise? If Balki is intentionally creating drama, what is he covering up? And why do you think his interrogation tactic is more likely used by scum than by town trying to figure out alignments? Do you really think it's all just "noise" and we can't learn anything from those interactions?

Hot-take: You seem to be someone who assumes things when reading what someone says.

I don't think there needs to be anything specific to cover up. A distraction of any sort would be acceptable if that is the goal.

I never said I thought his interrogation tactic is more likely used by scum than town. Yes Balki is doing this, but upon re-read he seems to implement it when he knows he has gotten under someone's skin. With that in mind, how exactly is he helping town?

And I also didn't imply I didn't learn anything from his interactions. I think I have a decent read on Bunny and Jamie because of it.

Yeah for sure I assume things, but I'm trying not to. Hence all the questions into what you're thinking. I'm trying to understand where you're coming from.

My point is that if you've learned from the interactions, and if you are town, then he is helping town, right?

[worcej]

It really is a weird choice, I don't remember any game when brain was NKd before becoming a clear. It usually doesn't help a lot to speculate on reasons for the NK because they get wifomy very quickly. The obvious one would be if he crumbed something, which I haven't noticed, but I will be reareading him. Maybe he had good reads, or maybe he had bad reads and they want us to think he had good reads. Or maybe the scumteam is all inexperienced players, or they want us to think they are all inexperienced players, or... I don't really think this line of investigation is all that useful.

This would make sense if for the first time in recent memory that the D1 kill from a mafia team was because 'what the hell?'

Recent reads of the mafia QT post-game show there is a discussed reason behind the kill.

The point is that for every reason we can speculate, it is also possible that they wanted us to think that was the reason.

But I'm not opposed to discussing reasons. What do you think is the most likely?

Tinfoil hat I believe he may have been having good reads and, besides with Jamie, was not being as much of a distraction.

[worcej]

Yeah for sure I assume things, but I'm trying not to. Hence all the questions into what you're thinking. I'm trying to understand where you're coming from.

My point is that if you've learned from the interactions, and if you are town, then he is helping town, right?

Indirectly, yes. Is that important to you?

[kgray]

Yeah for sure I assume things, but I'm trying not to. Hence all the questions into what you're thinking. I'm trying to understand where you're coming from.

My point is that if you've learned from the interactions, and if you are town, then he is helping town, right?

Indirectly, yes. Is that important to you?

If the basis of your scumread on Balki is that he's creating noise as a distraction to hurt town, then yes. It is important to me that you claim his tactics are anti-town while also admitting they have a pro-town outcome.

[Balki Bartokomous]

As Fox has mentioned when discussing me, if you think about it, getting the three of us roused up creates a lot of noise and drowns the game out a bit. BB also mentioned this near his demise.

Do you think there are any particular conversations that have been drowned out by the noise? If Balki is intentionally creating drama, what is he covering up? And why do you think his interrogation tactic is more likely used by scum than by town trying to figure out alignments? Do you really think it's all just "noise" and we can't learn anything from those interactions?

I like this girl.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Bush did 911

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This back and forth between Flum and Balki plus the patient zero counterclaims is kind of cringe.

Just curious. What do you mean by "cringe"? I thought it was kind of funny, but I generally crack myself up.

[xorxes]

Guys, it's going to take a minute for me to get through yesterday's discussion and draw conclusions because there's a lot of words and I'm not too smart. But my aim is true.

How long will the minute be? It would be nice to have your perspective on things.

[worcej]

Yeah for sure I assume things, but I'm trying not to. Hence all the questions into what you're thinking. I'm trying to understand where you're coming from.

My point is that if you've learned from the interactions, and if you are town, then he is helping town, right?

Indirectly, yes. Is that important to you?

If the basis of your scumread on Balki is that he's creating noise as a distraction to hurt town, then yes. It is important to me that you claim his tactics are anti-town while also admitting they have a pro-town outcome.

I think any scum's actions can have a pro-town outcome when you analyze them once you know their alignment, so I don't see why this important to bring up.