M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1121 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:45 pm

Also, where’s our Rookie of the year? Kgray has gone and disappeared.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1122 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:45 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:44 pm
Did the deadline get moved 1 hour back?
I think the deadline is in just over an hour. Which is the correct time, it will be 24 hours since the last deadline. If the phase ends in 14 minutes that would only be 23 hours since EoD.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1123 Post by worcej » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:46 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:45 pm
Also, where’s our Rookie of the year? Kgray has gone and disappeared.
I doubt it since a majority of us are sitting here twiddling our thumbs waiting.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1124 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:47 pm

worcej wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:43 pm
@Damo - Also, I offered my reasoning for why I town read Tem. What is your take on the people (notably Balki and Bozo) that wanted more and more explanation on why I felt Tem was town involving his meta?

You don't like previous game posts, so I assume you must also not like people who drag out those discussions.
@worcej

You are showing a hostility to being questioned that has no place in any reasonable town. And you're not the only one.

I don't know your alignment, but let's say you're Town. You want me to question you. You want me to seek more explanation. You want me to tell you what I don't understand and to give you chance after chance to provide the missing pieces.

There is this default position on this website to act with sarcasm, dismissiveness, and condescension when someone asks you a question and asks you to explain yourself. It is toxic and discouraging. It is terrible town play (and frankly terrible "fake town" mafia play, except that on this site it passes as solid because the idiot townies do the same God damn thing).

We need to welcome questions, even about our own actions. That means someone is taking the time to try to understand our motivations. If you are town, take the time to explain as many times as it takes so that we can all read your alignment correctly. That's what this game is supposed to be about.

I'm sorry to lecture. I know I'm a blowhard. But we need to do better, or else we're just hanging out wise cracking at each other and hoping the dice rolls our way.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1125 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:48 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:27 pm
Are you going to brush off my entire case on you?
I didn't notice you making a cases.

I noticed you (incorrectly) saying I didn't respond to Sulit's lack of a vote, and this was weird apparently. I have responded to that by demonstrating that you were wrong and I did call on Sulit to vote as EoD approached. I provided a copy of the post where I did so.

Care to explain what your "case" is?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1126 Post by brainbomb » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:48 pm

Im not answering any bullshit this time jamie. You need to be more respectful to others. you howl and bitch and moan about everyone but when its you being questioned and cased you ignore it.

You have this incredibly loud voice in these games and you use it to just encumber everyone poor unfortunate soul you come across.

just answer my fucking case and why you put sulit as town.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1127 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:48 pm

*case

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1128 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:49 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:48 pm
Im not answering any bullshit this time jamie. You need to be more respectful to others. you howl and bitch and moan about everyone but when its you being questioned and cased you ignore it.

You have this incredibly loud voice in these games and you use it to just encumber everyone poor unfortunate soul you come across.

just answer my fucking case and why you put sulit as town.
This post is very disrespectful. Balki would not like it at all.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1129 Post by brainbomb » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:49 pm

if youd simply read my posts in the last 2 pages youd find the case. this really us the bare minimum we expect of people

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1130 Post by brainbomb » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:49 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:49 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:48 pm
Im not answering any bullshit this time jamie. You need to be more respectful to others. you howl and bitch and moan about everyone but when its you being questioned and cased you ignore it.

You have this incredibly loud voice in these games and you use it to just encumber everyone poor unfortunate soul you come across.

just answer my fucking case and why you put sulit as town.
This post is very disrespectful. Balki would not like it at all.
deflecting

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1131 Post by Fluminator » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:51 pm

The best case for brainbomb being town in my eyes is him noticing Tem was suspicious before it was super obvious. I noticed it too, but I could see a scum missing it.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1132 Post by Fluminator » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:52 pm

Jamiet, are you aware of your meta being
Dick Jamiet = Town?
I think you'r townclaiming a little too hard
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:13 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:24 pm
Pjandy is claaaaaassic noob scum.

I might be able to read later.
Are you taking classes? Good for you!
Except for this one. You actually got me to lol. good job

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1133 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:54 pm

EON post:

I don't know who is scum. Everyone?
Y'all suck at this.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1134 Post by Fluminator » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:55 pm

I think 90% of impressive newcomers end up being scum in my experience, so I don't think I'll ever be able to townread kgray, no matter how good and townie she is lol.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1135 Post by brainbomb » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:58 pm

Jamie why would a 4 poster end up in your townreads

her posts included:

uwu

hi guys

hows life

pj is not NAI for low posting, since hes new

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1136 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:58 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:55 pm
I think 90% of impressive newcomers end up being scum in my experience, so I don't think I'll ever be able to townread kgray, no matter how good and townie she is lol.
This is a good point actually. That jives with my experience.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1137 Post by brainbomb » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:58 pm

you definetely would not have that as a serious read if you were town
EVER

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1138 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:59 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:49 pm
if youd simply read my posts in the last 2 pages youd find the case. this really us the bare minimum we expect of people
You find it odd that I townread Sulit, and this makes me scum?

That is not a case.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1139 Post by Foxcastle » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:01 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:58 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:55 pm
I think 90% of impressive newcomers end up being scum in my experience, so I don't think I'll ever be able to townread kgray, no matter how good and townie she is lol.
This is a good point actually. That jives with my experience.
I disagree in general, along with having some specific counter-examples (MeanLaQueefa, PouncySilverKitten).

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#1140 Post by kgray » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:04 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:45 pm
Also, where’s our Rookie of the year? Kgray has gone and disappeared.
I'm around, I just don't feel like I have a lot to contribute.

I still don't understand worcej's refusal to vote Tem, but I'm not going to pressure that because others are already doing it and at this point I don't think that me repeating the same questions would be productive. And even though I don't think worcej is being particularly helpful in explaining his case, I'm not sure that makes him mafia anyway. So I'm trying not to get hung up on that.

I do think it's kind of weird that you made such a big deal out of Tem being so scummy that the GM made a mistake, and yet you never voted for him. I'll go back and see if you explained why in case I missed it, but if you didn't, can you give your reasoning?

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