M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#921 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm

Just got out of a call, what's the case on worcej?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#922 Post by brainbomb » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm

im calm

I just got sent home from work and im in quarantine. Kinda hard to stay calm

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#923 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
Just got out of a call, what's the case on worcej?
He's not Tem

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#924 Post by worcej » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:53 pm
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Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:51 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:46 pm

The question really should not be "can you find an example of this working?" The question should be "can you find an example of scum trying this?"

That said, I am not going to go hunt for examples. I think it's pretty obvious and clear based on general scum theory. #scumtheory. Scum try to blend in and try to win town credit. I have definitely done this as scum. Haven't you?
Can I ask what posts I have made that is me trying to win town credit?
Sure. The one where you come out pretty firmly saying you think that Tem is town without good reasons.

Can you answer my earlier questions? Do you think Town!Tem was actually putting together a reaction test? Or do you think he was just frazzled and made that up, but is frazzled town rather than frazzled scum?
You don't think my reasoning was enough? I made it pretty obvious - he isn't a good player.

I think town!Tem is very capable of making a bad play like that thinking it would help. It is on par with his bad choices he has made in prior games and fits his meta, which is currently what I am going with over your implied opinions because it is D1.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#925 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm

Fluminator wrote:
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Having everyone on one person is not useful for EOD analysis.
Chaqa is a good counterwagon because he claimed he was going to lurk for the first few days. Although now he's claiming he'll only lurk in day 1, so maybe we should start a different wagon.
I meant days as in, IRL days. i.e. Day 1.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#926 Post by worcej » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
im calm

I just got sent home from work and im in quarantine. Kinda hard to stay calm
Ooof - someone you know got the bug?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#927 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm

@Chaqa,

I'd say best case is that he came out defending Tem without good reasons.

Also, I'm sheeping Flum.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#928 Post by Fluminator » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:53 pm
Fluminator wrote:
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Why are you so certain you're getting lyched worcej? You're not even the top wagon
I am posting my 'final thoughts' before EOD so that people can go review them. I could easily see damo jumping to me if another person comes and I am now the highest wagon.

Giving you all my thoughts and reads is the most important thing I can do as the 2nd highest wagon. Saying nothing and just flipping is the absolute worst thing I could do.
That's fine.

But you're using language like "when I flip town!" as if it's a foregone conclusion

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#929 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
im calm

I just got sent home from work and im in quarantine. Kinda hard to stay calm
So are we all. I was just winding you up. Relax. Don't get wound up.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#930 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm
@Chaqa,

I'd say best case is that he came out defending Tem without good reasons.

Also, I'm sheeping Flum.
Eh.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#931 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:57 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:50 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:46 pm
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Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:43 pm
My point is that I have never seen scum really get credit from defending a town. Usually you get exactly what he is getting now, people thinking you have more info them you should. Could you show me one example of this working?
The question really should not be "can you find an example of this working?" The question should be "can you find an example of scum trying this?"

That said, I am not going to go hunt for examples. I think it's pretty obvious and clear based on general scum theory. #scumtheory. Scum try to blend in and try to win town credit. I have definitely done this as scum. Haven't you?
Since I understood how the game works no. I usually tend to bus to get credit.
People are always looking for bussers also. I think scum criticizing town wagons is fairly common.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#932 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:57 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:53 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:51 pm
Can I ask what posts I have made that is me trying to win town credit?
Sure. The one where you come out pretty firmly saying you think that Tem is town without good reasons.

Can you answer my earlier questions? Do you think Town!Tem was actually putting together a reaction test? Or do you think he was just frazzled and made that up, but is frazzled town rather than frazzled scum?
You don't think my reasoning was enough? I made it pretty obvious - he isn't a good player.

I think town!Tem is very capable of making a bad play like that thinking it would help. It is on par with his bad choices he has made in prior games and fits his meta, which is currently what I am going with over your implied opinions because it is D1.
What kind of "bad play" is it?

Do you think he decided to to this Rx test and then did it? Or do you think he came under fire and then made it up?

Anyone sincerely trying to read Tem should have thought carefully about this question. It's a big deal.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#933 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:57 pm

##Vote Temasek

I don't like the idea of Day 1 lynching worcej.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#934 Post by brainbomb » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:57 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
im calm

I just got sent home from work and im in quarantine. Kinda hard to stay calm
Ooof - someone you know got the bug?
my best friends parents came into contact with someone suspected of having it. And I played civ with him at his house sun and mon. he visited his parents saturday. its all happening fast
my work is quarantining me until I have info

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#935 Post by worcej » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:57 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:53 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:51 pm
Why are you so certain you're getting lyched worcej? You're not even the top wagon
I am posting my 'final thoughts' before EOD so that people can go review them. I could easily see damo jumping to me if another person comes and I am now the highest wagon.

Giving you all my thoughts and reads is the most important thing I can do as the 2nd highest wagon. Saying nothing and just flipping is the absolute worst thing I could do.
That's fine.

But you're using language like "when I flip town!" as if it's a foregone conclusion
It is a foregone conclusion for me, who knows my own alignment.

Are you really this dense irl?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#936 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:58 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm
@Chaqa,

I'd say best case is that he came out defending Tem without good reasons.

Also, I'm sheeping Flum.
Additionally - why sheep Flum? He's given no reason to sheep.

You're better than this.

Balki needs to be watched.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#937 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:58 pm

##vote worcej

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#938 Post by brainbomb » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:58 pm

damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:55 pm
im calm

I just got sent home from work and im in quarantine. Kinda hard to stay calm
So are we all. I was just winding you up. Relax. Don't get wound up.
stop

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#939 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:58 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:58 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 pm
@Chaqa,

I'd say best case is that he came out defending Tem without good reasons.

Also, I'm sheeping Flum.
Additionally - why sheep Flum? He's given no reason to sheep.

You're better than this.

Balki needs to be watched.
Watched as in, kept an eye on, not the Watcher watching him.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#940 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:58 pm

I do need to be watched.

Honestly, I'm happy to see Tem flip too. But I agree with Flum that having a close counterwagon is productive too.

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