Nothing to do with anything indicative necessarily but have never seen you use this type of emoticonFluminator wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:40 pmI don't see how any reasonable person can think tem is towny right now xD
M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy
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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy
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The question really should not be "can you find an example of this working?" The question should be "can you find an example of scum trying this?"rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:43 pmMy point is that I have never seen scum really get credit from defending a town. Usually you get exactly what he is getting now, people thinking you have more info them you should. Could you show me one example of this working?
That said, I am not going to go hunt for examples. I think it's pretty obvious and clear based on general scum theory. #scumtheory. Scum try to blend in and try to win town credit. I have definitely done this as scum. Haven't you?
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I am suspicious of Jamie due to how his Tem vote came about. He seemed more passionate about others early and moved towards someone he displayed less passion for.
Vecna/Xorxes have not done much but I am not so concerned about their moves.
Vecna/Xorxes have not done much but I am not so concerned about their moves.
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When I flip town, what does that make Tem then?Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:37 pmI also think it works the other way. If Tem flips town, I feel like worcej is more likely to be scum. (that's why I would like worcej's elaboration on his townread there before the flip)
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I feel like Balki is setting this up:
Tem town = worcej scum
Tem scum = worcej scum
Tem town = worcej scum
Tem scum = worcej scum
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Jamie normally would ask the gm here if sulit is getting modkilled or subbed
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I don't really have time to point to games where scum do it. I noticed he was throwing shade on people voting the wagon though.
(Just throwing shade, not even questioning these people he was shading)
(Just throwing shade, not even questioning these people he was shading)
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If you are town, then your interactions with Tem don't tell us much about Tem's alignment, unfortunately. You would not have had any extra information that would have influenced your activity.worcej wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:48 pmWhen I flip town, what does that make Tem then?Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:37 pmI also think it works the other way. If Tem flips town, I feel like worcej is more likely to be scum. (that's why I would like worcej's elaboration on his townread there before the flip)
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Since I understood how the game works no. I usually tend to bus to get credit.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:46 pmThe question really should not be "can you find an example of this working?" The question should be "can you find an example of scum trying this?"rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:43 pmMy point is that I have never seen scum really get credit from defending a town. Usually you get exactly what he is getting now, people thinking you have more info them you should. Could you show me one example of this working?
That said, I am not going to go hunt for examples. I think it's pretty obvious and clear based on general scum theory. #scumtheory. Scum try to blend in and try to win town credit. I have definitely done this as scum. Haven't you?
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Then you're not reading my posts.
If Tem is scum, I think you're likely town.
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Can I ask what posts I have made that is me trying to win town credit?Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:46 pmThe question really should not be "can you find an example of this working?" The question should be "can you find an example of scum trying this?"rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:43 pmMy point is that I have never seen scum really get credit from defending a town. Usually you get exactly what he is getting now, people thinking you have more info them you should. Could you show me one example of this working?
That said, I am not going to go hunt for examples. I think it's pretty obvious and clear based on general scum theory. #scumtheory. Scum try to blend in and try to win town credit. I have definitely done this as scum. Haven't you?
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Why are you so certain you're getting lyched worcej? You're not even the top wagon
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No, I am reading them. You're leaving the opening open to spin the 2nd one imo.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:51 pmThen you're not reading my posts.
If Tem is scum, I think you're likely town.
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so sulit can just not vote at all and theres no penalty
but if she unvotes its a modkill
fix the dipshit ass rules on this goddamn forum ffs
but if she unvotes its a modkill
fix the dipshit ass rules on this goddamn forum ffs
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I am posting my 'final thoughts' before EOD so that people can go review them. I could easily see damo jumping to me if another person comes and I am now the highest wagon.Fluminator wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:51 pmWhy are you so certain you're getting lyched worcej? You're not even the top wagon
Giving you all my thoughts and reads is the most important thing I can do as the 2nd highest wagon. Saying nothing and just flipping is the absolute worst thing I could do.
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Sure. The one where you come out pretty firmly saying you think that Tem is town without good reasons.worcej wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:51 pmCan I ask what posts I have made that is me trying to win town credit?Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:46 pmThe question really should not be "can you find an example of this working?" The question should be "can you find an example of scum trying this?"rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:43 pmMy point is that I have never seen scum really get credit from defending a town. Usually you get exactly what he is getting now, people thinking you have more info them you should. Could you show me one example of this working?
That said, I am not going to go hunt for examples. I think it's pretty obvious and clear based on general scum theory. #scumtheory. Scum try to blend in and try to win town credit. I have definitely done this as scum. Haven't you?
Can you answer my earlier questions? Do you think Town!Tem was actually putting together a reaction test? Or do you think he was just frazzled and made that up, but is frazzled town rather than frazzled scum?
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Did you answer this question?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:56 pmDo you town read Temasek for reasons other than "trying to live", because I would expect scum to try to live also.worcej wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:40 pmAgreed, so let me just say this stuff:
I think Temasek is town. He isn't a veteran or someone I consider 'good' - he strikes me as just bad town trying to live. Because of this, I don't like the votes from Flum, Balki, and Jamie onto him because they seem opportunistic based on Tem's omission of purpose, which is very easy to spin as scum. I just think an okay player would crack like this so quickly.
I think the BB votes are also bad, but not really scummy - Vecna and Bo are intentionally absent (based on my own assessment) and Temasek is just trying incredibly hard to live.
The rest of the votes are noise in chaos imo.
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+1worcej wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:53 pmI am posting my 'final thoughts' before EOD so that people can go review them. I could easily see damo jumping to me if another person comes and I am now the highest wagon.Fluminator wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:51 pmWhy are you so certain you're getting lyched worcej? You're not even the top wagon
Giving you all my thoughts and reads is the most important thing I can do as the 2nd highest wagon. Saying nothing and just flipping is the absolute worst thing I could do.
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