M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Chaqa]

Maybe you should try thinking.

That sounds like effort.

What is there to even think about? Day 1 nonsense? 20-page cases about people's word choices?

It's a crapshoot today. Lynch someone for some arbitrary reason. Whose turn is it?

You're shit. How about you think about Temasek having really inconsistent reads for no apparent reason, then flip-flopping when questioned, and then when a wagon forms he declares "Ta-da! It was all a reaction test!". Why are you incapable of thinking about that, for example? Have you been masturbating to midget porn so much that you are finding it hard to focus?

I think Temasek always has inconsistent reads, there's a language barrier, and reaction tests are bullshit.

I'm not against voting for him, but I put a massive grain of salt on any Day 1 wagons that people seem so sure of.

Staying on EMC as a matter of policy until he votes, though.

[Chaqa]

Or, Chaqa, if you like, it can be your turn. How would you like that?

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[worcej]

im not gonna solve shit this game, and edge on that near-lynch viability untill like d4.

Maybe ill not get killed early that way. Others do it all the time, now is my time to be lazy and do more interesting stuff in the meanwhile

@BB - I take this comment from Vecna to be legit.

Putting myself in his shoes, I would be inherently tired of dying early in games and would intentionally behave to stop said outcomes.

[worcej]

Continuing @Fox - you have persistently pushing for an EMC policy lynch in recent games due to his D1 play and once again we find ourselves with EMC not voting in any of his 13 posts so far.

Why have you not brought this up yet?

Because after the last game he drew furry porn of me abusing him and thereby earned my forgiveness. It's still anti-town play, and if someone else wants to take up that mantle, I'd vote for his wagon if I don't have better scum candidates. But for now, I have set down that particular cause.

So if someone draws you involved with porn, you decide to forgive them?

Not to kink shame, but that is a shit reason to forgive someone for finding their behavior to be bad for multiple games...

[worcej]

##vote Tem

Applying more pressure.

Worcej and Vecna are on my suspicious list.

**shocked face**

[damo666]

##vote Tem

Applying more pressure.

Worcej and Vecna are on my suspicious list.

**shocked face**

[worcej]

I think most of us didn't respond because the question was asked to you.

I was not suggesting anyone else should answer worcej's (or Bo's) specific question on my behalf, I was making the point to Bo that no one else was going to pushback on worcej's vote.

It took me a minute to figure out what you were saying in your post. Since you edited out the question I posed to Bo, I'll ask it of you also, Bunny: do you think worecej's behavior (anchoring a vote, coming back and presumably seeing that the situation has changed, not changing his vote) is worth noting?

I think anchoring a vote D1 is a "whatever" move. It's annoying, but probably NAI. I think not knowing when the day ends in the same post that you insist you know when the day ends is a little weirder. I think his posts have had near zero content per post; and that's the most worrying.

I cannot control wether you find value in each post I make. That's up to you to decide (which you apparently have)

[worcej]

I was not suggesting anyone else should answer worcej's (or Bo's) specific question on my behalf, I was making the point to Bo that no one else was going to pushback on worcej's vote.

It took me a minute to figure out what you were saying in your post. Since you edited out the question I posed to Bo, I'll ask it of you also, Bunny: do you think worecej's behavior (anchoring a vote, coming back and presumably seeing that the situation has changed, not changing his vote) is worth noting?

I think anchoring a vote D1 is a "whatever" move. It's annoying, but probably NAI. I think not knowing when the day ends in the same post that you insist you know when the day ends is a little weirder. I think his posts have had near zero content per post; and that's the most worrying.

I'm not complaining about the initial vote. That's not a problem. The problem is letting it sit even when there are better places to put it later. It smacks of trying to see what you can get away with (not even getting away with a mislynch, just getting away with not doing anything to draw attention, not doing anything that's helpful VCA later, etc).

Do you think your opinion of 'a better place' is blatantly biased due to the fact it is on you?

I feel like you are trying to sell 'worcej voted for me, therefor is scum'.

[BunnyGo]

I was not suggesting anyone else should answer worcej's (or Bo's) specific question on my behalf, I was making the point to Bo that no one else was going to pushback on worcej's vote.

It took me a minute to figure out what you were saying in your post. Since you edited out the question I posed to Bo, I'll ask it of you also, Bunny: do you think worecej's behavior (anchoring a vote, coming back and presumably seeing that the situation has changed, not changing his vote) is worth noting?

I think anchoring a vote D1 is a "whatever" move. It's annoying, but probably NAI. I think not knowing when the day ends in the same post that you insist you know when the day ends is a little weirder. I think his posts have had near zero content per post; and that's the most worrying.

I cannot control wether you find value in each post I make. That's up to you to decide (which you apparently have)

Correct. Usually I find you are content rich in your posts. This game has been less so. But it's D1. D1 is mostly shit...just what I've seen so far.

[worcej]

I think anchoring a vote D1 is a "whatever" move. It's annoying, but probably NAI. I think not knowing when the day ends in the same post that you insist you know when the day ends is a little weirder. I think his posts have had near zero content per post; and that's the most worrying.

I'm not complaining about the initial vote. That's not a problem. The problem is letting it sit even when there are better places to put it later. It smacks of trying to see what you can get away with (not even getting away with a mislynch, just getting away with not doing anything to draw attention, not doing anything that's helpful VCA later, etc).

Yeah, it's not great. I stand by "annoying". Maybe it even rises to the level of EMC annoying because it gives us nothing to go on when we finally have some data to draw connections. But that by itself is NAI (I think).

If you cannot gain anything out of my comments that I've made so far in the event I flip, then you are clearly not trying to use the bot effectively.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think Temasek always has inconsistent reads, there's a language barrier, and reaction tests are bullshit.

I'm not against voting for him, but I put a massive grain of salt on any Day 1 wagons that people seem so sure of.

Staying on EMC as a matter of policy until he votes, though.

This sounds like you only read and reacted to my summary, rather than actually reading any of the posts by Temasek, or the people questioning and then scumreading him.

This is super lazy and you are missing the point. Yes, reaction tests are bullshit. That is one of the reasons why, after buckling and looking super scummy under questioning, it is then even more scummy that Temasek suddenly claimed it had all been a reaction test, like a fifth-rate soap opera character suddenly waking up and saying "it was all a dream!".

But none of this matters to you, does it? Because you don't care. Because you are either scum, or terrible, toxic, waste-of-fucking space, shit town.

Either way your presence is anti-town, so you might as well go back to smoking pot and jerking off. Fuck off out of here.

[worcej]

I think anchoring a vote D1 is a "whatever" move. It's annoying, but probably NAI. I think not knowing when the day ends in the same post that you insist you know when the day ends is a little weirder. I think his posts have had near zero content per post; and that's the most worrying.

I cannot control wether you find value in each post I make. That's up to you to decide (which you apparently have)

Correct. Usually I find you are content rich in your posts. This game has been less so. But it's D1. D1 is mostly shit...just what I've seen so far.

Okay, I'm going to ask a question you kinda just answered: Do you really think my D1 behavior in this game is different than the last game I played?

[worcej]

@Fox. While you and I agree that there are better places to put it, has Worcej suggested he things there are any? I don't recall seeing a post where he says so.

Oooo, I look forward to Fox's reply to this one!

[worcej]

@Fox. While you and I agree that there are better places to put it, has Worcej suggested he things there are any? I don't recall seeing a post where he says so.

And you don't find that to be a problem from a veteran player like Worcej?

And you don't find it weird that you are singling me out when you have veteran players such as bozo, bo_, xorxes, Vecna, and Chaqa all having only placed one vote and not moved yet?

And before you try to sell they had better reasons when they voted than your 'joke vote' - perhaps your campaign to scum me in the face of the only vote on you has raised my suspicions on you to be more legit?

Fret not though, no one will listen to me anyways.

[kgray]

Staying on EMC as a matter of policy until he votes, though.

If emc voted right now, who would you switch to?

[worcej]

Big win? No, although I am >99% sure at least one opportunistic scum jumped on my wagon on their first chance.

It wasn't worth it to carry on after 24 hours. The reaction test didn't work out the way I thought it would.

I wish I could set a reminder to look back on a post. Reviewing previous games, it seems more likely scum are letting town flounder around instead of driving a lynch.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Brainbomb, Worcej:
What is your read on Chaqa? What are your reads on each other?

[Jamiet99uk]

@EMC, Sulit:

You have less than 2.5 hours to vote. Vote please.

[brainbomb]

@Brainbomb, Worcej:
What is your read on Chaqa? What are your reads on each other?

I still think worcej is town. had my doubts last night in the bath when rereading his lack of vecna evaluating. he addressed it today.

as for chaqa I actually kinda like his posts. emc has reacted to the push either. so thats worth waiting to see

[Foxcastle]

Continuing @Fox - you have persistently pushing for an EMC policy lynch in recent games due to his D1 play and once again we find ourselves with EMC not voting in any of his 13 posts so far.

Why have you not brought this up yet?

Because after the last game he drew furry porn of me abusing him and thereby earned my forgiveness. It's still anti-town play, and if someone else wants to take up that mantle, I'd vote for his wagon if I don't have better scum candidates. But for now, I have set down that particular cause.

So if someone draws you involved with porn, you decide to forgive them?

Not to kink shame, but that is a shit reason to forgive someone for finding their behavior to be bad for multiple games...

That is apparently how it works, yeah. But besides your snark, I reiterated that I don't condone EMC's play and that, after having pushed that cause for however many games now, I'm going to move on. Deciding to play the game a little differently and focus on other approaches is not a shit reason.