M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[brainbomb]

Hey everyone! This virus is a bit scary, huh? Thankfully I have built up a stockpile of 1400 toilet rolls so I should be okay.

I'm a bit concerned about that dude on the huge black chariot, though. That does *not* look like a good guy entrance scene.

goddamnit, you stole my idea. I totally was gonna do this afyer reading my role pm and coast

[bozotheclown]

I like how the scum heuristic is

play terrible and vote my teammates

and every game were always like.

NAHHHH scum wouldnt do that, its probably bozo cuz he did a thing

We (human beings) try to see patterns even when there is no pattern because it's more comfortable to us then a chaotic approach, hence the most useless VCA analysis that lead to town losing last games.

Some players over analyzed D1 from last game. From D1, town should have concluded that BunnyGo, Bob, and Kalel were town, but that was widely ignored.

[bozotheclown]

It is interesting there were 4 VT claims to start the game, it makes me wonder the motive for these claims.

4? Who made them?

Fluminator, Jamie, Balki, Vecna

[brainbomb]

You are a Vanilla Town. Ever since the announcement of the first case of CoVID-19 in your country, the only thing more important than unnecessary racism towards Chinese people has been toilet paper. Thankfully you have 1400 rolls because you are a terrible person who also has very little understanding about how this disease progresses. During the day you must vote for who you think is the mafia. You win once CoVID-19 is eradicated.

[xorxes]

The scum team knows who you are. But your post suggests that you know who they are and they don't know you.

Where does it say the scum teams knows who patient zero is?

That's how it usually works, but I couldn't find it explicitly stated anywhere for this game. It's interesting that Balki and Bunny each assumed a different answer though.

[BunnyGo]

@Jojo,

Friend, spare a thought for your reader, who faithfully consumes your prose seeking fulfillment and enlightenment.

What do you mean "the post about not understanding how scum work"? I understand exactly how they "work" and I've not said otherwise.

What do you mean "town slip"? I have perfect balance.

You cling so confidently to this "town slip" assumption (without mentioning what it is), that you think it is some sort of gambit.

Be kind to your reader. Tell us what we are eating.

@mafia, I am patient zero. Please protect me, and generally follow my lead.

@town, nothing to see here folks. I'm vanilla town.

@mafia, *wink.

If you were the patient zero then according to the role post:

You are Patient zero. Unbeknownst to you, your live bat head soup was contaminated with a virus. A new virus. A deadly virus. You went about your life as normal until you developed a cough, then all went downhill. You didn’t even realise the role you were to play. You are a MAFIA alignment cop. Each night you MUST PM the GM with ##investigate PLAYER. You will learn whether they are mafia or town. You do NOT know the identity of the other members on your mafia team. You win when there is nothing the world can do to prevent global eradication

The scum team knows who you are. But your post suggests that you know who they are and they don't know you.

Where does it say the scum teams knows who patient zero is?

Interesting. I inferred it from the lack of them saying otherwise, but you're right.

##CALL GM do the rest of scum team know who patient zero is? Or are they all blind?

[BunnyGo]

I like how the scum heuristic is

play terrible and vote my teammates

and every game were always like.

NAHHHH scum wouldnt do that, its probably bozo cuz he did a thing

We (human beings) try to see patterns even when there is no pattern because it's more comfortable to us then a chaotic approach, hence the most useless VCA analysis that lead to town losing last games.

Some players over analyzed D1 from last game. From D1, town should have concluded that BunnyGo, Bob, and Kalel were town, but that was widely ignored.

Explain? I certainly believed at least one of me, Bob, and Kalel had to be scum.

[BunnyGo]

It is interesting there were 4 VT claims to start the game, it makes me wonder the motive for these claims.

4? Who made them?

Fluminator, Jamie, Balki, Vecna

Wait, didn't Balki claim patient 0?

[Temasek22]

It is interesting there were 4 VT claims to start the game, it makes me wonder the motive for these claims.

4? Who made them?

Fluminator, Jamie, Balki, Vecna

All done in fun and jest I assume. Who doesn't want to make a TP joke?

[xorxes]

4? Who made them?

Fluminator, Jamie, Balki, Vecna

Wait, didn't Balki claim patient 0?

If that's the only claim you saw, you must be mafia, since that claim was only addressed to them. The other claim was addressed to town.

[brainbomb]

##CALL Jamiet99uk

what sayest thou about the toilet paper roll claims

[bozotheclown]

We (human beings) try to see patterns even when there is no pattern because it's more comfortable to us then a chaotic approach, hence the most useless VCA analysis that lead to town losing last games.

Some players over analyzed D1 from last game. From D1, town should have concluded that BunnyGo, Bob, and Kalel were town, but that was widely ignored.

Explain? I certainly believed at least one of me, Bob, and Kalel had to be scum.

Didn't you know you were not scum?

I was sure emc would not bus you D1 and that Kalel would not bus emc D1, and Bob was the one emc voter who I was sure was not bussing him.

[xorxes]

##CALL Jamiet99uk

what sayest thou about the toilet paper roll claims

First time roll spelled properly.

[bozotheclown]

Some players over analyzed D1 from last game. From D1, town should have concluded that BunnyGo, Bob, and Kalel were town, but that was widely ignored.

Explain? I certainly believed at least one of me, Bob, and Kalel had to be scum.

Didn't you know you were not scum?

I was sure emc would not bus you D1 and that Kalel would not bus emc D1, and Bob was the one emc voter who I was sure was not bussing him.

By the way, I believe your case against me that helped get me lynched D2 contained a lot of confirmation bias, something that usually makes me suspect a scum motivation, but in that case I was sure you were town. Despite your move off of emc looking suspicious, there was no way emc would bus you like that D1.

[kgray]

The scum team knows who you are. But your post suggests that you know who they are and they don't know you.

Where does it say the scum teams knows who patient zero is?

That's how it usually works, but I couldn't find it explicitly stated anywhere for this game. It's interesting that Balki and Bunny each assumed a different answer though.

Assuming patient zero = traitor, Nephthys said in the sign-up thread that the rest of the mafia know who it is. It's post 11 of that thread.

[BunnyGo]

Fluminator, Jamie, Balki, Vecna

Wait, didn't Balki claim patient 0?

If that's the only claim you saw, you must be mafia, since that claim was only addressed to them. The other claim was addressed to town.

Well...that claim was specifically pointed out to me by kgray, so I saw it. What else did he claim?

[BunnyGo]

Some players over analyzed D1 from last game. From D1, town should have concluded that BunnyGo, Bob, and Kalel were town, but that was widely ignored.

Explain? I certainly believed at least one of me, Bob, and Kalel had to be scum.

Didn't you know you were not scum?

I was sure emc would not bus you D1 and that Kalel would not bus emc D1, and Bob was the one emc voter who I was sure was not bussing him.

Sure I knew I wasn't. But my point was from a neutral party, I fully believed one of us had to be (and from my point of view, one of them).

[BunnyGo]

Explain? I certainly believed at least one of me, Bob, and Kalel had to be scum.

Didn't you know you were not scum?

I was sure emc would not bus you D1 and that Kalel would not bus emc D1, and Bob was the one emc voter who I was sure was not bussing him.

By the way, I believe your case against me that helped get me lynched D2 contained a lot of confirmation bias, something that usually makes me suspect a scum motivation, but in that case I was sure you were town. Despite your move off of emc looking suspicious, there was no way emc would bus you like that D1.

Makes sense. I think I played terribly last game. Trying to step it up this one. But in doing so, trying to avoid exactly that confirmation bias as you put it. I had the idea that I should make the strongest case I could, but as I wasn't doing it for everyone at the same time, it was a lousy idea.

[xorxes]

Wait, didn't Balki claim patient 0?

If that's the only claim you saw, you must be mafia, since that claim was only addressed to them. The other claim was addressed to town.

Well...that claim was specifically pointed out to me by kgray, so I saw it. What else did he claim?

What did bozo say he claimed that prompted you to ask him whether he had not claimed patient zero?

[brainbomb]

kgray clearly has some skill at mafia. she is already calling ppl out on fallacies. impressive