M1009 [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

foodcoats has twice made factually incorrect statements while explaining why he scum reads me, which I responded to as follows:

Actually, I too think bozo looks unappetizing. bozo parked on Chaqa for ages and then swung onto Neph to push the wagon up ahead 4/2 with 30 minutes to go, providing this justification:



Not the greatest reason to stack off there. bozo also repeatedly hammered on Chaqa, even saying after voting for Neph that they really preferred to hang Chaqa or worcej, despite it being bozo who in leaving Chaqa dropped Chaqa down to a 1 vote wagon (the wagons were 3/2/2, then 4/2/1 with some other vanities because of bozo's switch), and pushed Neph up into true leadership position in doing so.

##VOTE bozotheclown

I tried for most of D1 to get votes for Chaqa and apparently was only able to convince damo to vote for him. (Maybe it is not a coincidence that damo is no longer here). I voted for Nephthys when I was leaving before EOD because it did not seem likely that Chaqa would be lynched, and I thought Nephthys was more likely to be scum than the other wagons. If I had been able to be online at EOD, I would have waited longer to change my vote, but unless others decided to vote for Chaqa, or a wagon on worcej materialized, I would have ended up voting for Nephthys.

Also, your analysis contains an error, the wagons were 3/2/2/2/2/2, so after my vote change, the wagons were 4/2/2/2/2/1, not 4/2/1. I addressed all of the 2 vote wagons with this post:

I would lynch Chaqa or worcej, but Nephthys looks suspicious as well. My guess is that damo and Jamie are both town, as well as emc. I am not sure about Tom. I will probably be on the road at EOD, I will check in from mobile if possible.

Since you find my vote for Nephthys suspicious, can you tell me what potential scum motivation you see in changing my vote to Nephthys when I did? From what you said, the only thing I can conclude is that you think I might have been protecting Chaqa.

Well this is interesting.

You misled people quite seriously for a long time, bozo. If it was a joke why did you double down when you said "I stand by my research?" I really believed you had something. What I thought you were going to point to was a thread where Chaq and Kak joked around about Camaros... but I really believed it was SOMETHING, because you're so fastidious as a player.

It is very interesting that you're now withdrawing outright lies after EOD. And Im pretty upset I wanked the vote and hung worcej for you and your team.

First, that post was before EOD, so if that information would have affected your voting, you were missing it not because I posted it after EOD, but because you did not read it.

Second, I thought it was obvious I was not being serious about Chaqa and Kakarroto.

I am posting this again to point out that foodcoats appeared to be fabricating reasons to scum read me, as I pointed out at the time of his posts.

[xorxes]

I was up coughing until like 4 AM and I feel worse after minimal sleep.

I’m town reading Bozo and xorxes right now. They seem normal.

Feeling something a bit off from Jamie .

Need more on others

EMC, vote dammit

@Jamie, I don't think you ever reacted to this.

What the fuck was I supposed to react to? It was so vague it meant nothing.

What did you want me to do, post "No, Chaqa, I am not "off" and I CAN PROVE IT USING SCIENCE. Read this 10,000 word rebuttal in which I shall prove without doubt that I am 100% ON. That's right, ON, which is the OPPOSITE of "off"." ??

It's just that you said this;

"A bit off" is literally my least favourite phrase anyone ever uses in Mafia.

when goldie found me a bit off, but you said nothing when Chaqa said the same about you. It just seems a bit off, that's all.

[bozotheclown]

I was up coughing until like 4 AM and I feel worse after minimal sleep.

I’m town reading Bozo and xorxes right now. They seem normal.

Feeling something a bit off from Jamie .

Need more on others

EMC, vote dammit

@Jamie, I don't think you ever reacted to this.

What the fuck was I supposed to react to? It was so vague it meant nothing.

What did you want me to do, post "No, Chaqa, I am not "off" and I CAN PROVE IT USING SCIENCE. Read this 10,000 word rebuttal in which I shall prove without doubt that I am 100% ON. That's right, ON, which is the OPPOSITE of "off"." ??

If my theory about goldfinger, foodcoats, and ​xorxes is correct, xorxes has to get you or brainbomb lynched, or reverse his town read of me.

[bozotheclown]

It is hard for me not to see these things as pocketing attempts:

I am VT.

If rivera and bozo are both VT, then that leaves:

Jamie
goldie
food
brain
emc

Two PRs, three scum, game solved for me (relatively confident bozo is town). Probably things are not as easy as that, but why are people not claiming?

Noted, townreading you is pocketing attempt.

Thank you bozo for posting votes. Makes it easier for me.

If I'm not around to argue in his defense, bozo is the only VT claimant I'm near 100% certain is town.

That may be a pocketing attempt, since I scumread him and townread you. But I certainly would not base a scumread of goldie on that post alone. "near 100%" does seem a bit extreme, but it may be hyperbole.

How likely do you think it is goldfinger would say that about me today if we were both scum?

[xorxes]

@Jamie, I don't think you ever reacted to this.

What the fuck was I supposed to react to? It was so vague it meant nothing.

What did you want me to do, post "No, Chaqa, I am not "off" and I CAN PROVE IT USING SCIENCE. Read this 10,000 word rebuttal in which I shall prove without doubt that I am 100% ON. That's right, ON, which is the OPPOSITE of "off"." ??

If my theory about goldfinger, foodcoats, and ​xorxes is correct, xorxes has to get you or brainbomb lynched, or reverse his town read of me.

Your theory is wrong. You need to get unstuck.

[Jamiet99uk]

Chaqa's "reads" on D1 were as follows:

Townreads Bozo
Townreads Xorxes
Townreads Tom

Scumreads Jamiet because I'm "off"
Scumreads Neph
Makes a hedgy remark about Damo being "odd".

[Jamiet99uk]

Chaqa's "reads" on D1 were as follows:

Townreads Bozo
Townreads Xorxes
Townreads Tom

Scumreads Jamiet because I'm "off"
Scumreads Neph
Makes a hedgy remark about Damo being "odd".

I would assume at least one of Bozo and Xorxes must be scum, looking at this. I don't believe Chaqa would avoid townreading *any* of his scumbuddies.

[xorxes]

It is hard for me not to see these things as pocketing attempts:

Noted, townreading you is pocketing attempt.

That may be a pocketing attempt, since I scumread him and townread you. But I certainly would not base a scumread of goldie on that post alone. "near 100%" does seem a bit extreme, but it may be hyperbole.

How likely do you think it is goldfinger would say that about me today if we were both scum?

Unlikely. Rereading golfinger it is pretty clear you two were not teammates. If you were, you both spent huge amount of effort working for a future cover.

Having said that, if you read everything goldie has said about me you should conclude that I am highly unlikely to be his teammate as well. Could have he been bussing? Sure, that is always a possibility. But why? It was completely unnecessary, scum were doing phenomenally well.

Suspect me all you want, but in my humble opinion, you are stuck in a tunnel.

[rdrivera2005]

Noted, townreading you is pocketing attempt.



That may be a pocketing attempt, since I scumread him and townread you. But I certainly would not base a scumread of goldie on that post alone. "near 100%" does seem a bit extreme, but it may be hyperbole.

How likely do you think it is goldfinger would say that about me today if we were both scum?

Unlikely. Rereading golfinger it is pretty clear you two were not teammates. If you were, you both spent huge amount of effort working for a future cover.

Having said that, if you read everything goldie has said about me you should conclude that I am highly unlikely to be his teammate as well. Could have he been bussing? Sure, that is always a possibility. But why? It was completely unnecessary, scum were doing phenomenally well.

Suspect me all you want, but in my humble opinion, you are stuck in a tunnel.

Who are your two most likely scumteam Xorxes?

In fact it's a good question to everyone.

[rdrivera2005]

Chaqa's "reads" on D1 were as follows:

Townreads Bozo
Townreads Xorxes
Townreads Tom

Scumreads Jamiet because I'm "off"
Scumreads Neph
Makes a hedgy remark about Damo being "odd".

I would assume at least one of Bozo and Xorxes must be scum, looking at this. I don't believe Chaqa would avoid townreading *any* of his scumbuddies.

Xorxes and Bozo aren't scum together I think.

[xorxes]

Chaqa's "reads" on D1 were as follows:

Townreads Bozo
Townreads Xorxes
Townreads Tom

Scumreads Jamiet because I'm "off"
Scumreads Neph
Makes a hedgy remark about Damo being "odd".

I would assume at least one of Bozo and Xorxes must be scum, looking at this. I don't believe Chaqa would avoid townreading *any* of his scumbuddies.

Do you think he would avoid scumreading any of his scumbuddies?

[xorxes]

How likely do you think it is goldfinger would say that about me today if we were both scum?

Unlikely. Rereading golfinger it is pretty clear you two were not teammates. If you were, you both spent huge amount of effort working for a future cover.

Having said that, if you read everything goldie has said about me you should conclude that I am highly unlikely to be his teammate as well. Could have he been bussing? Sure, that is always a possibility. But why? It was completely unnecessary, scum were doing phenomenally well.

Suspect me all you want, but in my humble opinion, you are stuck in a tunnel.

Who are your two most likely scumteam Xorxes?

In fact it's a good question to everyone.

Jamie and brain.

I have to read food again under the light of the Chaqfinger flip. But reading gold-bozo and Chaqa-bozo interactions I would be truly amazed if bozo is scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

Chaqa's "reads" on D1 were as follows:

Townreads Bozo
Townreads Xorxes
Townreads Tom

Scumreads Jamiet because I'm "off"
Scumreads Neph
Makes a hedgy remark about Damo being "odd".

I would assume at least one of Bozo and Xorxes must be scum, looking at this. I don't believe Chaqa would avoid townreading *any* of his scumbuddies.

Do you think he would avoid scumreading any of his scumbuddies?

Well, it's very clearly what he did.

[xorxes]

Chaqa's "reads" on D1 were as follows:

Townreads Bozo
Townreads Xorxes
Townreads Tom

Scumreads Jamiet because I'm "off"
Scumreads Neph
Makes a hedgy remark about Damo being "odd".

I would assume at least one of Bozo and Xorxes must be scum, looking at this. I don't believe Chaqa would avoid townreading *any* of his scumbuddies.

Xorxes and Bozo aren't scum together I think.

You think correctly. I'm not scum, and I highly suspect neither is bozo.

[bozotheclown]

Noted, townreading you is pocketing attempt.



That may be a pocketing attempt, since I scumread him and townread you. But I certainly would not base a scumread of goldie on that post alone. "near 100%" does seem a bit extreme, but it may be hyperbole.

How likely do you think it is goldfinger would say that about me today if we were both scum?

Unlikely. Rereading golfinger it is pretty clear you two were not teammates. If you were, you both spent huge amount of effort working for a future cover.

Having said that, if you read everything goldie has said about me you should conclude that I am highly unlikely to be his teammate as well. Could have he been bussing? Sure, that is always a possibility. But why? It was completely unnecessary, scum were doing phenomenally well.

Suspect me all you want, but in my humble opinion, you are stuck in a tunnel.

I will reread Chaqa/goldfinger, as well as look into goldfinger's propensity to bus.

[xorxes]

I would assume at least one of Bozo and Xorxes must be scum, looking at this. I don't believe Chaqa would avoid townreading *any* of his scumbuddies.

Do you think he would avoid scumreading any of his scumbuddies?

Well, it's very clearly what he did.

[xorxes]

How likely do you think it is goldfinger would say that about me today if we were both scum?

Unlikely. Rereading golfinger it is pretty clear you two were not teammates. If you were, you both spent huge amount of effort working for a future cover.

Having said that, if you read everything goldie has said about me you should conclude that I am highly unlikely to be his teammate as well. Could have he been bussing? Sure, that is always a possibility. But why? It was completely unnecessary, scum were doing phenomenally well.

Suspect me all you want, but in my humble opinion, you are stuck in a tunnel.

I will reread Chaqa/goldfinger, as well as look into goldfinger's propensity to bus.

Independently of any motives you may want to attribute to me, do you think goldie would have been lynched today if I had not pushed him?

[Jamiet99uk]

Do you think he would avoid scumreading any of his scumbuddies?

Well, it's very clearly what he did.

What's funny?

He had only three scumreads as far as I can see. Two of those are dead and flipped town, and I have read my role PM so I know I'm town as well. Thus none of the people he pretended to scumread, were actually his scumbuddies.

[bozotheclown]

How likely do you think it is goldfinger would say that about me today if we were both scum?

Unlikely. Rereading golfinger it is pretty clear you two were not teammates. If you were, you both spent huge amount of effort working for a future cover.

Having said that, if you read everything goldie has said about me you should conclude that I am highly unlikely to be his teammate as well. Could have he been bussing? Sure, that is always a possibility. But why? It was completely unnecessary, scum were doing phenomenally well.

Suspect me all you want, but in my humble opinion, you are stuck in a tunnel.

Who are your two most likely scumteam Xorxes?

In fact it's a good question to everyone.

I still think foodcoats and xorxes is most likely, pending a chance to reread Chaqa/goldfinger.

[bozotheclown]

Chaqa's "reads" on D1 were as follows:

Townreads Bozo
Townreads Xorxes
Townreads Tom

Scumreads Jamiet because I'm "off"
Scumreads Neph
Makes a hedgy remark about Damo being "odd".

I would assume at least one of Bozo and Xorxes must be scum, looking at this. I don't believe Chaqa would avoid townreading *any* of his scumbuddies.

If he avoiding reading his teammates altogether, foodcoats/brainbomb is still possible.