Jamie is an interesting case this game. He's been sorta like ND, in putting up an obvious persona with no attempts at hiding that. On one hand you could argue that it's just him doing shits and giggles since this is a minigame, on the other hand it could be trying out a newer scum play.
M1009 [HIDDEN]
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The doctor can confirm whether he saved rdrivera, so the mafia would have to reveal another member to fake claim doctor who saved rdrivera.e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:12 pmThat is the thing though, he is also more likely to be believed should CC situation occur - which would give scum win. But probably too risky of a gamble for most of players still in this game, so moot pointsbozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:08 pmI think there is no chance the mafia would reveal rdrivera, who was widely town read, just to get the doctor to claim.
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Claims he saved himself, (possible reason no-one has said anything yet, asides from perhaps them scumreading both you and xorx), but it is probably okay to assume this will not occur.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:19 pmThe doctor can confirm whether he saved rdrivera, so the mafia would have to reveal another member to fake claim doctor who saved rdrivera.e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:12 pmThat is the thing though, he is also more likely to be believed should CC situation occur - which would give scum win. But probably too risky of a gamble for most of players still in this game, so moot pointsbozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:08 pm
I think there is no chance the mafia would reveal rdrivera, who was widely town read, just to get the doctor to claim.
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You can't really compare that way, though - the old scum!Jamie was typically more pissy and interested in causing chaos through various methods of either inane tunneling, or nitpicking. Generally less interactive as a whole as well.e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:19 pmJamie is an interesting case this game. He's been sorta like ND, in putting up an obvious persona with no attempts at hiding that. On one hand you could argue that it's just him doing shits and giggles since this is a minigame, on the other hand it could be trying out a newer scum play.
This game he's been more laid back (despite the over-the-top, flavourful 'challenges' at times). Not really any tunnels, or continued questioning either, at least no more than any other player. He's also been more jocular, to which there really isn't that much reference. Pretty sure this was a reason already pointed out for scum pts.
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I'd probably put the good mood down due to something good happening IRL though (and NAI), since that's what was happening the last two times people called him out for being 'softer'.e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:26 pmThis game he's been more laid back (despite the over-the-top, flavourful 'challenges' at times). Not really any tunnels, or continued questioning either, at least no more than any other player. He's also been more jocular, to which there really isn't that much reference. Pretty sure this was a reason already pointed out for scum pts.
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Hmm that is true. Can't really judge on the accuracy either as that is usually off enough to not be alignment indicative, like for many others.e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:27 pmI'd probably put the good mood down due to something good happening IRL though (and NAI), since that's what was happening the last two times people called him out for being 'softer'.e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:26 pmThis game he's been more laid back (despite the over-the-top, flavourful 'challenges' at times). Not really any tunnels, or continued questioning either, at least no more than any other player. He's also been more jocular, to which there really isn't that much reference. Pretty sure this was a reason already pointed out for scum pts.
Thoughts on bb then? Despite your inability to read Flav, lol
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He did interestingly choose to push you for inactivity iirc, then reverse his opinions later, presumably after reading up or from reactions to said poking. That being said, it is also true that he hasn't been here much for your AFK!meta as town or scum. Tbh I think he's hasn't talked enough. Again, either rather discouraged from lack of interactivity or scum taking advantage of being kinda-townread-enough-to-be-not-pushed-atm and staying quiet, to avoid otherwise lol
lmao but calling your general bullshit existence out would be small town pts I think
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So null, but small scumlean until he talks?e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:46 pmHe did interestingly choose to push you for inactivity iirc, then reverse his opinions later, presumably after reading up or from reactions to said poking. That being said, it is also true that he hasn't been here much for your AFK!meta as town or scum. Tbh I think he's hasn't talked enough. Again, either rather discouraged from lack of interactivity or scum taking advantage of being kinda-townread-enough-to-be-not-pushed-atm and staying quiet, to avoid otherwise lol
lmao but calling your general bullshit existence out would be small town pts I think
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This...feels like...you're talking about yourself :pe.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:48 pmSo null, but small scumlean until he talks?e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:46 pmHe did interestingly choose to push you for inactivity iirc, then reverse his opinions later, presumably after reading up or from reactions to said poking. That being said, it is also true that he hasn't been here much for your AFK!meta as town or scum. Tbh I think he's hasn't talked enough. Again, either rather discouraged from lack of interactivity or scum taking advantage of being kinda-townread-enough-to-be-not-pushed-atm and staying quiet, to avoid otherwise lol
lmao but calling your general bullshit existence out would be small town pts I think
But yeah. bb townreads goldchaq iirc. What do you think about this point that he brought up earlier
You never actually made a case on why you voted that way, and everyone else just kinda fell off (or were never on) lol
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Here's the thing. I don't think that makes up for how he has not actually seemed to "hunt", per say - he hasn't done any of his usual probe-style things, in which he focuses on one or two people he scumreads, asks them questions/engages them over the course of a few pages, and either tunnels further or leaves. It's like he's not actually interested in the answers that people give.e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:27 pmI'd probably put the good mood down due to something good happening IRL though (and NAI), since that's what was happening the last two times people called him out for being 'softer'.e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:26 pmThis game he's been more laid back (despite the over-the-top, flavourful 'challenges' at times). Not really any tunnels, or continued questioning either, at least no more than any other player. He's also been more jocular, to which there really isn't that much reference. Pretty sure this was a reason already pointed out for scum pts.
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Au contraire. It's also possible it's not due to his lack of trying, but due to how people have not been responding much this game. Minigame smallness and phase lengths aside, there's also been the gradual change in how mafia games run here and how people interact. There's been a shift in how cases are presented and how people interact, for the worse (but more of as a side effect of player cycling than anything else) :Pe.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:58 pmHere's the thing. I don't think that makes up for how he has not actually seemed to "hunt", per say - he hasn't done any of his usual probe-style things, in which he focuses on one or two people he scumreads, asks them questions/engages them over the course of a few pages, and either tunnels further or leaves. It's like he's not actually interested in the answers that people give.
You know this, I know this, and there's been plenty of meta community commentary written up that was never posted. So this isn't really as scummy as a thing you're making it out to be
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Lmao, I'm touched at the compliment. May bountiful joy be shoved under your eyelids, much thanks.
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Sorry, had to pay attention to a meeting while I was answering this:
Might be completely irrelevant now, need to catch up.
Basically sheer speculation. I was tinfoiling over what bozo said that I saw as scum perspective and you fell in there in the grand conspiracy I was perceiving. I think I was just bozotriggered though, I realized he's just vastly more experienced player so it's probably NAI.
Might be completely irrelevant now, need to catch up.
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I didn't want to bring this up but figured it must be the case given the quiet. If that's the case and my math is right that means even with claiming there's a 40% chance to hit town. And it's worse if cop scanned a masked scum.e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:23 pmClaims he saved himself, (possible reason no-one has said anything yet, asides from perhaps them scumreading both you and xorx), but it is probably okay to assume this will not occur.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:19 pmThe doctor can confirm whether he saved rdrivera, so the mafia would have to reveal another member to fake claim doctor who saved rdrivera.
Might be better to just hash it out and lynch the old fashioned way so scum can't bus and manipulate in a targeted way.
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