M1009 [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

EMC, why can't you just cast a vote? Sigh.

Not sure on scumreadablility scales yet. But I'll vote before 2-3 hours before EOD, don't worry.

It's now 3 hours before EoD and EMC has not voted.

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote emc

[worcej]

I like worcej so far, surprisingly

Carrot gives me tingles but it may be just due to the "returning old player, friendly catchup" vibes

Seems abusable, mainly

Ooof, let me ruin that for you.

[worcej]

rivera would never come out in defense of a teammate like that. If they were scum together, he would agree with you that it was suspicious. For example, he could be teammates with Jamie.

Rivera's scum meta is usually lurking and bussing. If he flips scum later, keep an eye on who he's been shading.

Don't you think I am smart enough to change my meta sometimes?

FWIW, I absolutely think you are able to and have seen you do it.

[worcej]

I'm getting a weirdly unsettling vibe from Tom asking questions about my playstyle and meta, as if he hardly knows who I am.

Tom, you have been in lots of games of Mafia with me. What are you up to, here?

I’m questioning xorxes for apparently not knowing your play style. Both of us have played with you a lot. I’ve never noticed a difference in how much you post whether you are scum or town, yet xorxes townreads you for posting a lot.

Will offer my 2cents that the amount of posts Jamie does when he is town/scum are roughly the same. Town!Jamie tunnels and grabs at people's slips - scum!Jamie tries to 'not stir the pot' imo

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE EMC

[worcej]

I'm not buying this "Damo is town because real scum wouldn't fakeclaim Doctor in the joke phase". Xorxes is the second person to come out with this conclusion, or maybe the third if Flavius also took that view while he was vomiting the contents of his ADHD-addled mind into the thread like Brainbomb's less fortunate nephew.

Damo has posted three times. He's now the lowest poster. Here's a summary of his posts:

1. An explanation-free vote for Bozo.
2. A Doctor claim.
3. An "experiment" testing the mechanics of the bot, and in the process moving his vote to EMC again without explanation.

That's it. That's the whole of Damo in the 24+ hours that have thus far elapsed.

Sketchy, very sketchy. And people are townreading him?

Definitely the case.

Also, interesting note: people are voting emc for not voting yet have overlooked something obvious...

[worcej]

I'm a bit confused there, but I'll see if I can make sense of it in time.

Anyway, after having a little look at the posting statistics on our very lovely peterlund-bot™ I noticed, that there is one who is at the very bottom in every category: least posts, words, words per post, chars and even posting time. I don't like that. I don't like that at all. I also don't like that he sits on a wagon on emc for ... no reason but to seemingly park a vote. Oh and testing a double vote. No, he needs to participate more. ##VOTE damo666

I may come to like you a LOT for joining me on the bandwagon of 'damo needs to post more content'

[worcej]

@Worcej:

I strongly oppose a mass claim.

I will happily vote the first person that claims.

Did you vote for damo then?

Both Tom and Xorxes voting Jamiet and Food watching him. Interesting.

I thought that the mass claim was a joke but the emc question is useless unless Jamiet is questioning if emc should be posting flavor. Will wait for his answers.

I had the same thought when I quickly checked the bot for votes.

Tom seems to be in typical form, xorxes is a little more laid back. NAI but at least observations.

I do not buy that the combination of these 2 posts was a reaction test, especially given the order of the posts and the posts being 10 minutes apart. worcej has almost overtaken Chaqa in suspicious activity.

You think I am not capable of planting a slip to see who is paying attention?

[worcej]

town points to bozo for his small shitstirring attempts. He's not that bold as scum, I don't think, and the bland explanation seems believable.

100% disagree with this statement. Look at what he did in the Ripper game as evidence.

[e.m.c^42]

HIS LILY-WHITE ASS.

I'm heartened to know that you know the colour of damo's ass

[e.m.c^42]

town points to bozo for his small shitstirring attempts. He's not that bold as scum, I don't think, and the bland explanation seems believable.

100% disagree with this statement. Look at what he did in the Ripper game as evidence.

but exactly. it was small, and he downplayed it as well,

then again, perhaps not, hmm

[Jamiet99uk]

Also, interesting note: people are voting emc for not voting yet have overlooked something obvious...

Educate us, Worcej.

[FlaviusAetius]

I'm a bit confused there, but I'll see if I can make sense of it in time.

Anyway, after having a little look at the posting statistics on our very lovely peterlund-bot™ I noticed, that there is one who is at the very bottom in every category: least posts, words, words per post, chars and even posting time. I don't like that. I don't like that at all. I also don't like that he sits on a wagon on emc for ... no reason but to seemingly park a vote. Oh and testing a double vote. No, he needs to participate more. ##VOTE damo666

Ok I agree with you but lynching lurkers day 1 dont make sense at all

plus next 2 posts

Yea but that was long ago, he needs punishments for not doing anything ever
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^in the way of commitment, instead he just sits on the sidelines and looks from afar, voting is a way to commit and he doesnt do it

reading this together, it makes more sense than the first time reading it post after post. That's why I like it more compact and it's not spread out over several posts. At first it gave me the idea that on the one hand you were ok with people doing nothing (lurking) and then punishing emc for not voting, but that's not what you were saying so ok there.

Anyway, starting early to push lurkers to participate in the game is something that should be done more often. We need information, especially early on, and townies not writing isn't good, makes them a non-factor at best and an obstacle at worst. It's pretty easy as scum to hide in the shadows, lurking, so I like to put up pressure there.

Looking at our very lovely peterlund-bot™ I noticed another player not voting right now, maybe you also want to look into that, Flavius, since you don't like no voters.

Ah, while I went and responded, there were some new posts, mostly just responses but this one post of readings might be valuable later on. Also damo seems to be here now (even when he doesn't like my style. I'm utterly shocked).

Since I have to go to work now, I'll not be able to respond for a while, maybe around 6 hours from now when I have lunch break, if I can make it. Xorxes might be on to something, I'd like to hear more from so ##VOTE Nephthys

I think you can make lurkers talk more than just by voting for them imo
emc is a special case because he does this literally every game
and what is xorxes on? see this is why its hard to do it when you aren't quoting because no one knows what your referring too, and has to go on a chicken hunt to find it

[worcej]

food is town

Explain how this post falls into the 'quality' side of 'short and quality'.

I can make short and quality statements too, here is one:

Damo doesn't contribute.

[FlaviusAetius]

Kakarroto, damo, and worcej are currently townleans for me. Kakarroto is doing work, and I still don't believe scum!damo claims doctor, despite worcej's good arguments to the contrary - which, nonetheless, put worcej in my town camp.

I have to call Flavius null until I can better parse their style. Chaqa, emc, and rdrivera are nullish for me also. Worth mentioning I don't put a lot of credence in rdr's townslip; rdr strikes me as a cunning player, and the type who reads the setup. Not leading me to a scumlean yet either, though.

bozo started the game off weird. Much sillier and brusquer than usual. bozo is usually the paragon of seriousness.

I also called xorxes saucy early on for what I thought was cracking wise about a Reaver. xorxes is also usually pretty serious, from my perspective. I would put this aside except two other people have noticed xorxes acting out of sorts; if I recall correctly, one said xorxes was laid back, another that xorxes was not hunting as usual.

My initial ping on Jamie still stands, but I also haven't vibed on anything since then. But I would think scum!Jamie is experienced enough to have corrected course after starting the game off too gravely.

Tom and Nephthys give me the heebiejeebies. But, actually, taking the time to read their isos, I'll give Tom the pass since their posts are not bad, if infrequent and a bit... reactionary? Nephthys's iso by contrast is off. It sort of... caromes? Pointlessly? I'm not sure. It unsettles my gut. I don't like Neph's Chaqa vote; Chaqa's cop comment looks scummy, but Chaqa is conversational about this game no matter what. Second on the wagon looks a little too good. Picking up on what someone else had said and choosing to settle there without contributing much else to the game... it's a little too convenient.

I have to assume that xorxes and bozo cannot both be scum for being a little more saucy than usual. I think I'll put my faith in the fact that two others were pinged by xorxes and give bozo the pass for now.

Making my scum team Jamie, xorxes, and Nephthys.

xorxes, what will you do if I join your wagon?

##VOTE Nephthys

This is a good post, even if your scumteam is at least one third wrong. I voted for both Jamie and Neph, which would go way against my meta if that was the scumteam. Also, while it's true that I'm more on the serious side, you can easily find instances of me being saucy in any game I played, so not really a good indicator for me. Bozo is not incapable of making a joke either. Last game he started with one as well, for instance.

And what could I do if you join my wagon? If I was bussing, now I'm stuck!

rd's townslip was too heavyhanded to be fake. Not beyond him probably, but most likely real.

I think team could be Neph, worcej, Tom, maybe Jamie if I need to replace one.

eh' slips are way tooo easy to fake, dont fall for them

[worcej]

Believe rdr township

Carrot cake is probably town (don't like the posting style though).

Bozo probtown with the vote stuff.

Xorxes is Xorxes. Jamie is Jamie.

EMC is being annoying.

Flav seems immature, probably town but needs to post less.

Tom, worcej and Neph seems a tad strange.

Fodd is meh

Anybody want to join me in ##vote worcej ?

I am willing to vote for worcej, but you have already moved on. I still prefer to find out about Chaqa, because if he flips scum it would be a good indication that Kakarroto is scum as well.

willing to lynch either worcej or neph whichever gains traction

disinclined to lynch Chaqa or Kakarrotto (today anyway)

Grabbing a post to reply, but I find it fascinating to have xorxes, damo, and bozo state they are willing to lynch me near each other, but never received a vote other than the short one from damo.

Add in that this is a 13 player game but other than damo, anyone find this a little hedgey from at least one of them?

[FlaviusAetius]

In my head I’m remembering rdr faking a tow slip before but I may be getting him confused with someone else. Does anyone have recollection of this? I’ll try to go back and look but it’ll take some time since rdr has been scum an abnormallly large number of times

Shouldnt matter if he has done it before or not, this sounds like a perfect time for him to fake it, especially if everyone is going to fall for it

[Jamiet99uk]

Flavius, please don't quote an essay length post and then add just one short remark.

It clogs up the thread and makes it even harder to read than your other posts.

[damo666]

food is town

Explain how this post falls into the 'quality' side of 'short and quality'.

I can make short and quality statements too, here is one:

Damo doesn't contribute.

Absolute bollocks.

And that's a contribution.