MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4041 Post by teacon7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:40 am

I got bored after spending a while on d2 thinking up an original solution all by myself ...that xorx had already thought of. Boring. I got excited for a second that we might have an interesting game again... but now that there's two scum to lynch there's not much to do.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4042 Post by teacon7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:42 am

Chaqa keeps talking about his board game night. Has anyone played Firefly the Board Game? http://bit.ly/O37BIzLt

Jamie, on the other hand, will be in his bunk. (I got your joke) http://bit.ly/2tOz2vD

@everyone looking back at Tem's press habits - do you think it has anything to do with voting patterns? Or maybe whether you use capitalization in when voting? There's a bit of a spectrum for whether it's "Vote" or "VOTE" or "vote"

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4043 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:50 am

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:40 am
I won’t vote for anyone except Temasek
I get that, I do; it's very wrong, but I understand the impulse. But since you were volunteering who you'd reaver (if you were prime) let me give you mine:

Any PR who is nearly unconfirmable and a major threat to me. That is:

damo! (I'd do it first night, second night, third night until I hit--wouldn't want River in my mind scanning)
dargo (next choice for watching...)
Tom (probably end up doing it by accident, but still good to get the bodyguard especially if he can't be watched or scanned)

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4044 Post by teacon7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:50 am

definitely gonna ##vote goldfinger.

If he's BH, he might announce his targets and try to gamethrow against town. That could have some appeal to disgruntled non-town, and there's a respectable degree of glory to a 3rd party win.

If he's scum, I could see him being assassin. I have no idea why a BH would fakeclaim (no way to verify), and it seems unlikely that he'd try to fakeclaim as a reaver.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4045 Post by teacon7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:51 am

actually wait

@damo - did you read him as a generic reaver? or as reaver PRIME?

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#4046 Post by teacon7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:02 am

Ok, looks like you did read him as reaver prime. gg damo

Lynching him now means that secundus carries out a kill n5, so we'd still have 2 deaths (barring docsaves), if goldfinger flips BH. Commuting tem keeps him on ice for tomorrow's lynch.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4047 Post by Chaqa » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:04 am

Everyone should copy paste the Temasek posts that triggered the Reaver warning. Anyone who doesn’t is a Reaver.

I will when I’m home in a PC

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#4048 Post by teacon7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:06 am

:tumbleweeds:

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4049 Post by teacon7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:22 am

@Chaqa: reposts
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Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:28 am
:tumbleweed:
I don't get this. Care to explain?
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God dammit damo. Why Did you do this?
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I am NOT rP, as a matter of fact just a VT. I fear damo has been revered.
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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4050 Post by teacon7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:28 am

Another idea, and then I should probably go to sleep.

1) Has everyone made a firefly reference? like, a quote or image post or something? Did Tem ever do any thematic references or quotes or anything?

2) idk if everyone knows this because maybe someone hasn't seen the show. The word is "Reaver." Not "Reaper" or "Rever" or whatever. I've seen a few misspellings (including one from Tem d4 before the GM warning), and generally attributed that to phone autocorrecting. Maybe there's a rule about spelling the name of his own faction?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4051 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:31 am

OK the drugs got me to sleep a bit, so here are some possible hypotheses:

1) There is a posting requirement
2) There is a posting prohibition
3) The stuff needs to be easy to check (this need not be true if our GM is killing herself checking)
4) The bot's daylog could make checking easier...could be regards to posts, words, characters, rank in the postings, words per post...any or all of those could easily be involved
5) Here's one that's easy to check but impossible to decrypt: have to PM the GM every post you make
6) There are more than one condition, so multiple things interact to make the violation. This would make things very hard to decrypt. It's why I've been pushing for causing retriggers as opposed to a full code break.

So, 1 is hard to test for. 2 is what most of our tests have been. I think the bot is huge, especially the ability to search by phase and name and word all at once. 4 and 1 play well together, 2 plays well with the search function on the website.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4052 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:32 am

teacon7 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:22 am
@Chaqa: reposts
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Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:28 am
:tumbleweed:
I don't get this. Care to explain?
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God dammit damo. Why Did you do this?
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I am NOT rP, as a matter of fact just a VT. I fear damo has been revered.
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Separate posts please

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4053 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:35 am

teacon7 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:28 am
Another idea, and then I should probably go to sleep.

1) Has everyone made a firefly reference? like, a quote or image post or something? Did Tem ever do any thematic references or quotes or anything?

2) idk if everyone knows this because maybe someone hasn't seen the show. The word is "Reaver." Not "Reaper" or "Rever" or whatever. I've seen a few misspellings (including one from Tem d4 before the GM warning), and generally attributed that to phone autocorrecting. Maybe there's a rule about spelling the name of his own faction?
Interesting ideas. Jamie hasn't liked my references once...I don't think the first idea is likely to be correct, but I'd just like to see him post some quotes or references to be less stodgy.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4054 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:36 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:28 am
:tumbleweed:
I don't get this. Care to explain?

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#4055 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:36 am

God dammit damo. Why Did you do this?

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#4056 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:37 am

I am NOT rP, as a matter of fact just a VT. I fear damo has been revered.

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#4057 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:38 am

Catching up on thread. I read it all, but didn't respond as I read it like I normally have been doing. Food poisoning suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.

If there's something I should respond to, please bump it up.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4058 Post by dargorygel » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:46 am

I don't get this. Care to explain?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4059 Post by teacon7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:46 am

1) Seems like we can start ruling stuff out about posting inclusions by analyzing what Tem did or didn't do. For all we know, there's a list of phrases like "purple mayonnaise" or ::phrase in foreign language:: that they have to pick from. If the phrases were sufficiently strange they would be enough of a liability to fit the "not entirely rational" from the role desc.
2) That seems fair, though it's going to be harder much harder to determine what the rules are without clogging the thread.
3) Hard agree.
4) Agree. That's actually analyzable with ::drumroll:: a spreadsheet. ...because you can look at numbers side by side. You'd have to control for phases (or day+night cycles) where rule violations occurred, and look at the rest. Do they have to lurk? postcount has to = X + # of phases?
5) Nah. Too much work. Reavers aren't human, but GMs and players are.
6) Agree.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4060 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:46 am

dargorygel wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:46 am
I don't get this. Care to explain?
me?

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