MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

@Tem, at least two out of Chaqa/emc/Fox/Tem are scum. Don't you have any ideas?

Same question to the other three.

well, shiny wifom shenanigans would dictate Chaqa to be something like rPrime or BH, coz he seems towny enough, and Tem is last scum as he's been more analytical than in the past

but for less tinfoil I would go with at least one scum in Fox or Tem, but more Fox and much less Tem

You hurt me, EMC

[Chaqa]

Ok

I have info. Will reveal just before EON.
When is EON?

If there is advantage in revealing earlier please explain.

I asked Companion to rolebloock goldie again in case he is RP or Assassin.

Probably don't reveal until EON unless you have a better suggestion for Companion. We don't want to let RP recruit if we have been roleblocking them already.

What if he has a RP scan on someone who *isn't* goldie? Shouldn't he then reveal it so ND can roleblock the new RP?

[e.m.c^42]

@Tem, at least two out of Chaqa/emc/Fox/Tem are scum. Don't you have any ideas?

Same question to the other three.

well, shiny wifom shenanigans would dictate Chaqa to be something like rPrime or BH, coz he seems towny enough, and Tem is last scum as he's been more analytical than in the past

but for less tinfoil I would go with at least one scum in Fox or Tem, but more Fox and much less Tem

You hurt me, EMC :(

it's a compliment ;)

[damo666]

Ok

I have info. Will reveal just before EON.
When is EON?

If there is advantage in revealing earlier please explain.

I asked Companion to rolebloock goldie again in case he is RP or Assassin.

Probably don't reveal until EON unless you have a better suggestion for Companion. We don't want to let RP recruit if we have been roleblocking them already.

What if he has a RP scan on someone who *isn't* goldie? Shouldn't he then reveal it so ND can roleblock the new RP?

If goldie is not Prime Reaver then the whoever it is has probably already got 2 recruits so role block irrelevant but if they failed to recruit then roleblock is sensible. Opinions?

[xorxes]

I asked Companion to rolebloock goldie again in case he is RP or Assassin.

Probably don't reveal until EON unless you have a better suggestion for Companion. We don't want to let RP recruit if we have been roleblocking them already.

What if he has a RP scan on someone who *isn't* goldie? Shouldn't he then reveal it so ND can roleblock the new RP?

If goldie is not Prime Reaver then the whoever it is has probably already got 2 recruits so role block irrelevant but if they failed to recruit then roleblock is sensible. Opinions?

I think if we roleblock RP we prevent their NK, so still relevant.

[Chaqa]

Well, given worcej's flip, I think Goldie might actually be BH. Basically, two scenarios now exist to me:

1. Goldie is BH. Mafia killed Bozo to mask this and give worcej a chance to survive. In this scenario, I believe Foxcastle to be the last Alliance member, due to a bit of voting on Vecna by worcej on Day 1.

2. Goldie is RP. Mafia killed Bozo to mask goldie's claim, though they may or may not know it's false. In this scenario, it just so happens that one of KalEl and Bozo was really a BH target, and we have no idea who the RP is. This seems... unlikely to me.


If Scenario 1 is true - Where are the Reavers? Why aren't they killing?

So maybe Scenario 2 is true?

Since lynching goldie is the only surefire way to find out (right now, barring damo info) - we can't know for sure without possible risking setting the Reavers free...

[damo666]

I can't wait.

I doubt it makes a difference to delay anyway.

Goldie is NOT prime reaver

[Chaqa]

What if he has a RP scan on someone who *isn't* goldie? Shouldn't he then reveal it so ND can roleblock the new RP?

If goldie is not Prime Reaver then the whoever it is has probably already got 2 recruits so role block irrelevant but if they failed to recruit then roleblock is sensible. Opinions?

I think if we roleblock RP we prevent their NK, so still relevant.

This would make sense - so if damo has a RP scan, he should reveal it, but otherwise, stay pat on Goldielocks?

[damo666]

TEMASEK is Reaver Prime

[Chaqa]

I can't wait.

I doubt it makes a difference to delay anyway.

Goldie is NOT prime reaver

Can you say whether you got this by:
1. scanning goldie OR
2. scanning someone else?

[Chaqa]

TEMASEK is Reaver Prime

Oh.

This makes sense to me. So goldie is BH.

@ND - hopefully you get on to change your roleblock...

[damo666]

Is there any reason to think there are not already 3 reavers?

[damo666]

So I think Goldie should be tomorrow's lynch and Temasek after. Hopefully i get another good read tomorrow.

[Chaqa]

Is there any reason to think there are not already 3 reavers?

Temasek could have been holding off for late game recruits.

If we roleblock him - he can't recruit or kill.

We lynch goldie.

If goldie flips RP, we know you're lying and get you - so you're probably not lying.

Then we keep voting no-lynch until we can find someone guaranteed a Reaver through scanning / figure out their press rules (which I'm working on now)

[Chaqa]

We almost certainly do NOT want to lynch Temasek.

If he's Reaver Prime, and we roleblock him, he can't kill.

Meanwhile we can hunt Investigator.

Tinfoil - Temasek could be Assassin and damo is a Reaver, setting us up to roleblock Temasek and free Goldie to kill. With just one night-kill, we would believe damo, but in actuality the Reavers, not Alliance, are killing.

Seems unlikely, but possible.

[goldfinger0303]

So you say tem is RP, but are advocating to *not* lynch them straight away?

Again, BH can win with town. I'll tell you tem is not a bounty, so I won't go up to 2 collected. I'll still be safe.

[Chaqa]

So you say tem is RP, but are advocating to *not* lynch them straight away?

Again, BH can win with town. I'll tell you tem is not a bounty, so I won't go up to 2 collected. I'll still be safe.

Why would we lynch him?

If we roleblock him, he's shut down.

[xorxes]

So you say tem is RP, but are advocating to *not* lynch them straight away?

Again, BH can win with town. I'll tell you tem is not a bounty, so I won't go up to 2 collected. I'll still be safe.

Why would we lynch him?

If we roleblock him, he's shut down.

So you say tem is RP, but are advocating to *not* lynch them straight away?

Again, BH can win with town. I'll tell you tem is not a bounty, so I won't go up to 2 collected. I'll still be safe.

Why would we lynch him?

If we roleblock him, he's shut down.

Correct. We roleblock him and lynch in goldie/Fox/Chaqa.

[goldfinger0303]

Ok then start searching the D1 press violation for what he did, and go get the other reavers. Or lynch in the VT pool.

Don't lynch someone you don't have to. As I've said before, if I become dangerous, force the mafia teams to take care of me. They lose if I win too. But with only one bounty collected I'm not a threat.

[xorxes]

Or emc.