MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3321 Post by xorxes » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:59 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:35 pm
Woooo, now I get paid.

Also note: this may force alliance faction to NK one of worcej's targets to keep the CC battle going. But since they're all VTs I see that as an absolute win.
:lol: Giving them ideas to cover yourself? Pretty sure worcej is not the BH either.

@New Companion: make sure you pay a visit to goldie again tonight.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3322 Post by xorxes » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:00 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:51 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:47 pm
It's EoN that the message is given. It's so that you guys can't be sure if it was the NK or the lynch that was the bounty.
##CALL GM
Could you confirm this?
I think they already confirmed that.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3323 Post by goldfinger0303 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:10 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:59 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:35 pm
Woooo, now I get paid.

Also note: this may force alliance faction to NK one of worcej's targets to keep the CC battle going. But since they're all VTs I see that as an absolute win.
:lol: Giving them ideas to cover yourself? Pretty sure worcej is not the BH either.

@New Companion: make sure you pay a visit to goldie again tonight.
Oh, I can guarantee he's not BH. Look, I'm just trying to earn my keep here.

Come on guys, do it. See if you can get worcej to beat me in a CC fight.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3324 Post by xorxes » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm

@damo, I'm trying to decide whether you should tell us your scan now or not.

Mafia already know whether you were roleblocked or not, but goldie and Tom don't.

Conversely, Tom certainly and goldie probably already know whether Tom is a Reaver, but Mafia don't.

So from that point of view it is better to hold the info until EON. On the other hand, if you were roleblocked we might want to test Tom by having him protect dargo while dargo watches himself. If dargo survives, he will know whether Tom protected him or not. If dargo dies, we will know that Tom could not protect him.

So what do people think? @Tom? @dargo? @damo? @everyone?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3325 Post by xorxes » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:13 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:10 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:59 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:35 pm
Woooo, now I get paid.

Also note: this may force alliance faction to NK one of worcej's targets to keep the CC battle going. But since they're all VTs I see that as an absolute win.
:lol: Giving them ideas to cover yourself? Pretty sure worcej is not the BH either.

@New Companion: make sure you pay a visit to goldie again tonight.
Oh, I can guarantee he's not BH. Look, I'm just trying to earn my keep here.

Come on guys, do it. See if you can get worcej to beat me in a CC fight.
But what if you both lose the CC fight?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3326 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:14 pm

With Kalel confirmed as mafia team 1, I think it is very unlikely emc is the Agent.


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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3328 Post by Tom Bombadil » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:17 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
@damo, I'm trying to decide whether you should tell us your scan now or not.

Mafia already know whether you were roleblocked or not, but goldie and Tom don't.

Conversely, Tom certainly and goldie probably already know whether Tom is a Reaver, but Mafia don't.

So from that point of view it is better to hold the info until EON. On the other hand, if you were roleblocked we might want to test Tom by having him protect dargo while dargo watches himself. If dargo survives, he will know whether Tom protected him or not. If dargo dies, we will know that Tom could not protect him.

So what do people think? @Tom? @dargo? @damo? @everyone?
I think this is reasonable.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3329 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:17 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:10 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:59 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:35 pm
Woooo, now I get paid.

Also note: this may force alliance faction to NK one of worcej's targets to keep the CC battle going. But since they're all VTs I see that as an absolute win.
:lol: Giving them ideas to cover yourself? Pretty sure worcej is not the BH either.

@New Companion: make sure you pay a visit to goldie again tonight.
Oh, I can guarantee he's not BH. Look, I'm just trying to earn my keep here.

Come on guys, do it. See if you can get worcej to beat me in a CC fight.
That would certainly get you lynched D4.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3330 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:20 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
@damo, I'm trying to decide whether you should tell us your scan now or not.

Mafia already know whether you were roleblocked or not, but goldie and Tom don't.

Conversely, Tom certainly and goldie probably already know whether Tom is a Reaver, but Mafia don't.

So from that point of view it is better to hold the info until EON. On the other hand, if you were roleblocked we might want to test Tom by having him protect dargo while dargo watches himself. If dargo survives, he will know whether Tom protected him or not. If dargo dies, we will know that Tom could not protect him.

So what do people think? @Tom? @dargo? @damo? @everyone?
If darg survives, I think we would all know if Tom protected him based on whether or not Tom dies, I do not think he needs to watch himself to find that out.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3331 Post by dargorygel » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:22 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
@damo, I'm trying to decide whether you should tell us your scan now or not.

Mafia already know whether you were roleblocked or not, but goldie and Tom don't.

Conversely, Tom certainly and goldie probably already know whether Tom is a Reaver, but Mafia don't.

So from that point of view it is better to hold the info until EON. On the other hand, if you were roleblocked we might want to test Tom by having him protect dargo while dargo watches himself. If dargo survives, he will know whether Tom protected him or not. If dargo dies, we will know that Tom could not protect him.

So what do people think? @Tom? @dargo? @damo? @everyone?
Aye... It also means no one else should protect me.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3332 Post by goldfinger0303 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:24 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:20 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
@damo, I'm trying to decide whether you should tell us your scan now or not.

Mafia already know whether you were roleblocked or not, but goldie and Tom don't.

Conversely, Tom certainly and goldie probably already know whether Tom is a Reaver, but Mafia don't.

So from that point of view it is better to hold the info until EON. On the other hand, if you were roleblocked we might want to test Tom by having him protect dargo while dargo watches himself. If dargo survives, he will know whether Tom protected him or not. If dargo dies, we will know that Tom could not protect him.

So what do people think? @Tom? @dargo? @damo? @everyone?
If darg survives, I think we would all know if Tom protected him based on whether or not Tom dies, I do not think he needs to watch himself to find that out.
Why would Tom die? That assumes darg will be targeted again.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3333 Post by xorxes » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:25 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:20 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
@damo, I'm trying to decide whether you should tell us your scan now or not.

Mafia already know whether you were roleblocked or not, but goldie and Tom don't.

Conversely, Tom certainly and goldie probably already know whether Tom is a Reaver, but Mafia don't.

So from that point of view it is better to hold the info until EON. On the other hand, if you were roleblocked we might want to test Tom by having him protect dargo while dargo watches himself. If dargo survives, he will know whether Tom protected him or not. If dargo dies, we will know that Tom could not protect him.

So what do people think? @Tom? @dargo? @damo? @everyone?
If darg survives, I think we would all know if Tom protected him based on whether or not Tom dies, I do not think he needs to watch himself to find that out.
But if he doesn't die?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3334 Post by xorxes » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:27 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:22 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
@damo, I'm trying to decide whether you should tell us your scan now or not.

Mafia already know whether you were roleblocked or not, but goldie and Tom don't.

Conversely, Tom certainly and goldie probably already know whether Tom is a Reaver, but Mafia don't.

So from that point of view it is better to hold the info until EON. On the other hand, if you were roleblocked we might want to test Tom by having him protect dargo while dargo watches himself. If dargo survives, he will know whether Tom protected him or not. If dargo dies, we will know that Tom could not protect him.

So what do people think? @Tom? @dargo? @damo? @everyone?
Aye... It also means no one else should protect me.
Jamie can't protect you again tonight anyway. But yeah, Bunny should not commute you.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3335 Post by dargorygel » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:28 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:24 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:20 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
@damo, I'm trying to decide whether you should tell us your scan now or not.

Mafia already know whether you were roleblocked or not, but goldie and Tom don't.

Conversely, Tom certainly and goldie probably already know whether Tom is a Reaver, but Mafia don't.

So from that point of view it is better to hold the info until EON. On the other hand, if you were roleblocked we might want to test Tom by having him protect dargo while dargo watches himself. If dargo survives, he will know whether Tom protected him or not. If dargo dies, we will know that Tom could not protect him.

So what do people think? @Tom? @dargo? @damo? @everyone?
If darg survives, I think we would all know if Tom protected him based on whether or not Tom dies, I do not think he needs to watch himself to find that out.
Why would Tom die? That assumes darg will be targeted again.
I would expect it's a good deal for M1. They have a chance to get rid of the wtcher OR a reaver.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3336 Post by xorxes » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:29 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:24 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:20 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
@damo, I'm trying to decide whether you should tell us your scan now or not.

Mafia already know whether you were roleblocked or not, but goldie and Tom don't.

Conversely, Tom certainly and goldie probably already know whether Tom is a Reaver, but Mafia don't.

So from that point of view it is better to hold the info until EON. On the other hand, if you were roleblocked we might want to test Tom by having him protect dargo while dargo watches himself. If dargo survives, he will know whether Tom protected him or not. If dargo dies, we will know that Tom could not protect him.

So what do people think? @Tom? @dargo? @damo? @everyone?
If darg survives, I think we would all know if Tom protected him based on whether or not Tom dies, I do not think he needs to watch himself to find that out.
Why would Tom die? That assumes darg will be targeted again.
I didn't say that Tom would necessarily die. They may both survive if Mafia leaves them alone.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3337 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:52 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:25 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:20 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:12 pm
@damo, I'm trying to decide whether you should tell us your scan now or not.

Mafia already know whether you were roleblocked or not, but goldie and Tom don't.

Conversely, Tom certainly and goldie probably already know whether Tom is a Reaver, but Mafia don't.

So from that point of view it is better to hold the info until EON. On the other hand, if you were roleblocked we might want to test Tom by having him protect dargo while dargo watches himself. If dargo survives, he will know whether Tom protected him or not. If dargo dies, we will know that Tom could not protect him.

So what do people think? @Tom? @dargo? @damo? @everyone?
If darg survives, I think we would all know if Tom protected him based on whether or not Tom dies, I do not think he needs to watch himself to find that out.
But if he doesn't die?
I see your point that it would not prove Tom is still town, but it would mean darg could report his results if he watched someone else. It is a decision of how best to use darg' s watch.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3338 Post by xorxes » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:55 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:52 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:25 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:20 pm


If darg survives, I think we would all know if Tom protected him based on whether or not Tom dies, I do not think he needs to watch himself to find that out.
But if he doesn't die?
I see your point that it would not prove Tom is still town, but it would mean darg could report his results if he watched someone else. It is a decision of how best to use darg' s watch.
Yes, that's why it's a bit wasteful if damo already has a scan.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3339 Post by xorxes » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:56 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:55 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:52 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:25 pm


But if he doesn't die?
I see your point that it would not prove Tom is still town, but it would mean darg could report his results if he watched someone else. It is a decision of how best to use darg' s watch.
Yes, that's why it's a bit wasteful if damo already has a scan.
Maybe damo should just tell us if he has a scan or not, but not tell us the result until EON.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3340 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:59 pm

While we are waiting for the night to end, I think we should have the other Reaver Prime possibilities repost their posts from the assumed Reaver violation window. It may not cause another violation, but we have nothing to lose.

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