MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

And Chaqa is my #1 read for agent currently.

lol

[teacon7]

Goldfinger: "Lunch order? I think I'll have the Wine In Front Of Me first, then a sandwich."

[goldfinger0303]

I don't type "lynch" often, so my phone keeps autocorrecting to lunch.

[Chaqa]

I've got some thoughts, but without knowing what damo's scan was, it doesn't pay too much to overthink it. As of now, I see no world where we don't lynch goldie tomorrow.

[bozotheclown]

I've got some thoughts, but without knowing what damo's scan was, it doesn't pay too much to overthink it. As of now, I see no world where we don't lynch goldie tomorrow.

Why not get rid of the mafia roleblocker first?

[xorxes]

I agree, that is why I think this is the most likely option:

worcej: Investigator
goldfinger: Reaver Prime
Kalel: Roleblocker
VT1: Agent
VT2: BH

And Temasek the Agent, since worcej claimed he read him as VT? Then flipping Tem would not have exposed worcej.

I won't have time today, but if someone wants to do ISOs looking for worcej-Kalel-Temasek team connections that would be great.

Maybe, but worcej may have investigated Temasek N1 and received a VT result.

Can't check now, but I think he claimed scan result before EON.

[Chaqa]

I've got some thoughts, but without knowing what damo's scan was, it doesn't pay too much to overthink it. As of now, I see no world where we don't lynch goldie tomorrow.

Why not get rid of the mafia roleblocker first?

Well, we're 99% certain that he's the Roleblocker. Goldie could be (as he says) the BH, but I think more likely he is either the RP or the Investigator. If he's RP, we would love to get rid of him ASAP. If he's Investigator - meh, it's fine, we get rid of the powerful late-game ability he has if the others die.

Kalel has also offered to help us out in an attempt to defeat the Reavers, and goldie if BH claims he's a target, so we don't want to lynch him yet - what if it turns out Goldie is the BH, and Hosuke turns out to be a target, and then the mafia kills a second target tonight or the following night? Then, if we lynch Kalel, goldie could win.

Unlikely, but possible, so why take the risk when we might just have found our Primo Reaver?

[teacon7]

I don't type "lynch" often, so my phone keeps autocorrecting to lunch.

Haha you're fine gold. I though it was funny, and was therefore pinning on wifom too.

[teacon7]

Punning. Autocorrected! Ha

[goldfinger0303]

Well, we're 99% certain that he's the Roleblocker. Goldie could be (as he says) the BH, but I think more likely he is either the RP or the Investigator. If he's RP, we would love to get rid of him ASAP. If he's Investigator - meh, it's fine, we get rid of the powerful late-game ability he has if the others die.

Kalel has also offered to help us out in an attempt to defeat the Reavers, and goldie if BH claims he's a target, so we don't want to lynch him yet - what if it turns out Goldie is the BH, and Hosuke turns out to be a target, and then the mafia kills a second target tonight or the following night? Then, if we lynch Kalel, goldie could win.

Unlikely, but possible, so why take the risk when we might just have found our Primo Reaver?

I'm fairly certain scum team 1 will not hit my other bounties tonight, so in 3 hours you'll see I'm clear of that. RP might have hit them though, so who knows.

There is some logic, I suppose, in keeping Kalel alive. If my other two bounties come through, you can always threaten scum that you'll throw the game to me/ensure that the only way I win is if we win together. However, if I were town I would really want to cut down the 2 NKs to 1 NK as quick as possible, and eliminate the Alliance faction.

[Chaqa]

Well, either way, I'm glad to see most of our scum players hanging in there and giving it the old college try. This game is... very unusual.

Side note - I may be absent for the last 2 hours or so of the phase. The Eagles are in the Playoffs, and I have a game to watch soon.

[BunnyGo]

Well, we're 99% certain that he's the Roleblocker. Goldie could be (as he says) the BH, but I think more likely he is either the RP or the Investigator. If he's RP, we would love to get rid of him ASAP. If he's Investigator - meh, it's fine, we get rid of the powerful late-game ability he has if the others die.

Kalel has also offered to help us out in an attempt to defeat the Reavers, and goldie if BH claims he's a target, so we don't want to lynch him yet - what if it turns out Goldie is the BH, and Hosuke turns out to be a target, and then the mafia kills a second target tonight or the following night? Then, if we lynch Kalel, goldie could win.

Unlikely, but possible, so why take the risk when we might just have found our Primo Reaver?

I'm fairly certain scum team 1 will not hit my other bounties tonight, so in 3 hours you'll see I'm clear of that. RP might have hit them though, so who knows.

There is some logic, I suppose, in keeping Kalel alive. If my other two bounties come through, you can always threaten scum that you'll throw the game to me/ensure that the only way I win is if we win together. However, if I were town I would really want to cut down the 2 NKs to 1 NK as quick as possible, and eliminate the Alliance faction.

Anyone listening to the confirmed scum is WIFOMing themselves.

If it were legal to mute them, you should. It’s not, so pretend that they are.

[Chaqa]

Eh, one time as scum I made a joke about being in a scum team with "x, y, and z" and 2/3 of them were real and no one picked up on it.

[goldfinger0303]

I would like to remind the good Bunny that the BH is not scum. My wincon does not have to be opposed to yours.

[BunnyGo]

I would like to remind the good Bunny that the BH is not scum. My wincon does not have to be opposed to yours.

If you’re BH the you made a major FUBAR by not claiming VT. Why get in a counterclaim fight as opposed to hiding in VT until they were all settled?

[BunnyGo]

I would like to remind the good Bunny that the BH is not scum. My wincon does not have to be opposed to yours.

If you’re BH the you made a major FUBAR by not claiming VT. Why get in a counterclaim fight as opposed to hiding in VT until they were all settled?

So either you’re not BH or you’re not thinking about the game hard enough. Either way, I don’t trust you.

[BunnyGo]

Ok. I’m NOT commuting Damo. Someone else protect her.

[goldfinger0303]

I would like to remind the good Bunny that the BH is not scum. My wincon does not have to be opposed to yours.

If you’re BH the you made a major FUBAR by not claiming VT. Why get in a counterclaim fight as opposed to hiding in VT until they were all settled?

So either you’re not BH or you’re not thinking about the game hard enough. Either way, I don’t trust you.

I'm thinking about the game exactly hard enough, and it was the right play to make given that I didn't know what scum would do and we were talking about a mechanically clear game. And personally it was the *exact* right way to respond to the massclaim that everyone did despite my disagreement.

[BunnyGo]

If you’re BH the you made a major FUBAR by not claiming VT. Why get in a counterclaim fight as opposed to hiding in VT until they were all settled?

So either you’re not BH or you’re not thinking about the game hard enough. Either way, I don’t trust you.

I'm thinking about the game exactly hard enough, and it was the right play to make given that I didn't know what scum would do and we were talking about a mechanically clear game. And personally it was the *exact* right way to respond to the massclaim that everyone did despite my disagreement.

Ok

[BunnyGo]

If you’re BH the you made a major FUBAR by not claiming VT. Why get in a counterclaim fight as opposed to hiding in VT until they were all settled?

So either you’re not BH or you’re not thinking about the game hard enough. Either way, I don’t trust you.

I'm thinking about the game exactly hard enough, and it was the right play to make given that I didn't know what scum would do and we were talking about a mechanically clear game. And personally it was the *exact* right way to respond to the massclaim that everyone did despite my disagreement.

I still applaud and appreciate your effort when stuck in a tough position.