MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

Agh, I figured this would happen.

I am the *real* bounty hunter. Kalel is a bounty of mine. Worcej is lying, as I've repeated many times throughout the day.

This post screams "Gold and Worcej are Maf1 team mates" to me.

Very unlikely they are both Mafia1. That would mean one of them has to be either Agent or Roleblocker. But both claimed PR (unlikely for Agent to do) and neither claimed Companion (likely for Roleblocker to do).

I suppose Reaver Prime and Reaver is not out of the question.

[xorxes]

Unofficial votecount:

worcej (7) ND Chaqa bozotheclown teacon7 worcej* peterlund e.m.c^42
KalelChase (4) goldfinger0303 Tom Bombadil ItsHosuke Foxcastle
ItsHosuke (4) Temasek22 dargorygel KalelChase Jamiet99uk
BunnyGo (2) BunnyGo damo666
No‑Lynch (1) xorxes

4/6 VT voting for worcej.

Voting for one of Kalel or Hosuke would result in either:
- a lynch of probably the roleblocker, a teammate of two scum, possibly two scum VT, or:
- clearing one VT, reducing the pool where the other two scum VT can hide

Townie points for Fox and Tem.

Looking at the D2 VC, I guess Fox get town points but Tem get scum points.

This supports Investigator!worcej, Agent!Temasek.

[xorxes]

Working hypothesis:

Reaver Prime: goldfinger
Roleblocker: Kalel
Investigator: worcej
Agent: Temasek?
BH: ND/emc/Chaqa/bozo/Fox
Reaver: Tom?

Hopefully damo's scan and new Companion can help narrow down BH even further, but we're not really too concerned about BH until some of his bounties start flipping.

[Temasek22]

I understand why I'm suspected of being the agent, but I think scum would be better suited bussing or something, since Hosu ended up with way more votes than Kalel. General statement was how odd the night companion claim was, and I always vote him at some point too in all three games we played together. I mean at least we got a new backup companion and scum's chances are lower, right?

[Temasek22]

Bozo, Chaqa and emc hopped on there too, just saying.

[Jamiet99uk]

Working hypothesis:

Reaver Prime: goldfinger
Roleblocker: Kalel
Investigator: worcej
Agent: Temasek?
BH: ND/emc/Chaqa/bozo/Fox
Reaver: Tom?

Hopefully damo's scan and new Companion can help narrow down BH even further, but we're not really too concerned about BH until some of his bounties start flipping.

You think ND was lying?

[xorxes]

Working hypothesis:

Reaver Prime: goldfinger
Roleblocker: Kalel
Investigator: worcej
Agent: Temasek?
BH: ND/emc/Chaqa/bozo/Fox
Reaver: Tom?

Hopefully damo's scan and new Companion can help narrow down BH even further, but we're not really too concerned about BH until some of his bounties start flipping.

You think ND was lying?

We don't really want to discuss that before EON, do we?

[xorxes]

Working hypothesis:

Reaver Prime: goldfinger
Roleblocker: Kalel
Investigator: worcej
Agent: Temasek?
BH: ND/emc/Chaqa/bozo/Fox
Reaver: Tom?

Hopefully damo's scan and new Companion can help narrow down BH even further, but we're not really too concerned about BH until some of his bounties start flipping.

New Companion, you should NOT claim at EON. You will be needed for a while to prevent the spread of the Reavers, and you may not be able to if you are outed, so don't claim for now.

If anyone disagrees, explain please.

[xorxes]

Bozo, Chaqa and emc hopped on there too, just saying.

Make a case against the one you think is more likely the Agent.

[dargorygel]

Working hypothesis:

Reaver Prime: goldfinger
Roleblocker: Kalel
Investigator: worcej
Agent: Temasek?
BH: ND/emc/Chaqa/bozo/Fox
Reaver: Tom?

Hopefully damo's scan and new Companion can help narrow down BH even further, but we're not really too concerned about BH until some of his bounties start flipping.

New Companion, you should NOT claim at EON. You will be needed for a while to prevent the spread of the Reavers, and you may not be able to if you are outed, so don't claim for now.

If anyone disagrees, explain please.

Truth

[bozotheclown]

To be honest, why would BH hide in PR group? Don’t they need to buy lots of time and let us sort out CCs and hope?

The reaver just has to hide in PRs for 1 day to spawn.

I agree, that is why I think this is the most likely option:

worcej: Investigator
goldfinger: Reaver Prime
Kalel: Roleblocker
VT1: Agent
VT2: BH

And Temasek the Agent, since worcej claimed he read him as VT? Then flipping Tem would not have exposed worcej.

I won't have time today, but if someone wants to do ISOs looking for worcej-Kalel-Temasek team connections that would be great.

Maybe, but worcej may have investigated Temasek N1 and received a VT result.

[bozotheclown]

Since Kalel is very likely the Roleblocker, I think it is unlikely emc is the Agent. Based on experience as Kalel's mafia teammate in M51, I doubt he would bus emc D1, especially if emc was the Agent.

[goldfinger0303]

If Kalel is your only scum bounty, you need to save him for last if you want to win with town.

Hypothetically if he were my only scum bounty, this would be true. However, for me to do that 1) People have to know I'm the real BH, which seemingly they don't and 2) I have to convince town to let the mafia roleblocker to live, which is a hard sell that I'm not sure is in my interest to do right now, given the number of people who want me lynched

[goldfinger0303]

But upon reflection I think it's good that I'm still being talked about as a lynch target tonight. Makes my recruitment by RP less likely.

[bozotheclown]

Foxcastle might have been bussing Kalel, making him a reasonable Agent candidate.

[goldfinger0303]

And Chaqa is my #1 read for agent currently.

[bozotheclown]

And Chaqa is my #1 read for agent currently.

Maybe. If you are really the BH, I could believe this:

worcej: Reaver Prime
goldfinger: BH
Kalel: Roleblocker
Chaqa: Agent
ND: Investigator

[teacon7]

If got family over, and I'm. Mobile, so this will be brief. Sorry.

I'd rather have lynched kalel over superhosuke, bc I thought supers's confusion was genuine.

RIP itshosuke

It's a weird feeling to ML a PR and still feel like we came out ahead.

I'm glad xorx is confirmed.

@darg - I'd say watch people you think will be a reaver target.

@kalel - if you're the roleblocker, rb someone you think is reaver. Obviously you have more info than we do abt who among (kalel, worcej/gold) fits into your team.

Fwiw @Kalel we'd all benefit if you could give us some insights as to the quality of press in the QT. Is anyone using strange characters or non English words? Unless you want to post a sanitized version of QT press, maybe give us some observations. Is anyone in the QT acting weird? What else should we look for in press? You especially should look at of 27-32 and comment. Thanks.

@ND - lol

@gold - who else is on your list? What's your lynch order rn?

[teacon7]

*I've
Edit to above

Also @ kalel ... I hope your dad is feeling better. Blessings to y'all

[goldfinger0303]

@teacon - my current thoughts are that with Kalel, worcej and Chaqa we have the entirety of scumteam 1. As for lunch order, I think it highly depends on if I'm on the block tomorrow or not. Worcej at least has a *small* chance of being RP, but I think that we need to be looking in the VT pool for RP