MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

You can confirm yourself by commuting someone -

As I argued before, it should 10000% be Damo.

Xorxes, thoughts?

He’ll probably be against it on principle since it wasn’t his idea.

But it confirms you and guarantees our most valuable PR isn’t killed or Reavered

Yeah, definitely damo.

I wanted to check whether that acts as a roleblock, but it doesn't, it only has effects for the night.

You can save the second commute to prove yourself once all the Reavers have been spawned.

[damo666]

I hope damo got something juicy. Probably don't tell us until just before EON.

I will report my read result just before EON

[BunnyGo]

Xorxes, thoughts?

He’ll probably be against it on principle since it wasn’t his idea.

But it confirms you and guarantees our most valuable PR isn’t killed or Reavered

Yeah, definitely damo.

I wanted to check whether that acts as a roleblock, but it doesn't, it only has effects for the night.

You can save the second commute to prove yourself once all the Reavers have been spawned.

Without confirming or denying if I commuted somebody in N1, how can I do this without screwing up our other protectors?

[damo666]

Not necessarily, but something to consider.

Kalel was toast anyway, so messing with town is messing with town.

I do find goldfinger's BH claim more believable than worcej.

I for one do not.

Nor do i

[BunnyGo]

Xorxes, thoughts?

He’ll probably be against it on principle since it wasn’t his idea.

But it confirms you and guarantees our most valuable PR isn’t killed or Reavered

Yeah, definitely damo.

I wanted to check whether that acts as a roleblock, but it doesn't, it only has effects for the night.

You can save the second commute to prove yourself once all the Reavers have been spawned.

It does act as roleblock for just the night.

[BunnyGo]

He’ll probably be against it on principle since it wasn’t his idea.

But it confirms you and guarantees our most valuable PR isn’t killed or Reavered

Yeah, definitely damo.

I wanted to check whether that acts as a roleblock, but it doesn't, it only has effects for the night.

You can save the second commute to prove yourself once all the Reavers have been spawned.

Without confirming or denying if I commuted somebody in N1, how can I do this without screwing up our other protectors?

This is to say *if* I commuted someone last night, then I cannot tonight. *If* I didn't commute someone last night, I can commute damo tonight.

[Chaqa]

I suppose now we have to decide what order to lynch Goldie, Kalel, and Worcej in. Kal basically confirming he is the Roleblocker, I'm honestly not super concerned about him... but one of Goldie and worcej has to be the RP, right?

I really think it's Goldie and he visited Tom N1. But it could also be worcej -

but knowing the RP is likely one of these two, we should really go scrutinize their posts from pages 27-32.

[BunnyGo]

I suppose now we have to decide what order to lynch Goldie, Kalel, and Worcej in. Kal basically confirming he is the Roleblocker, I'm honestly not super concerned about him... but one of Goldie and worcej has to be the RP, right?

I really think it's Goldie and he visited Tom N1. But it could also be worcej -

but knowing the RP is likely one of these two, we should really go scrutinize their posts from pages 27-32.

How do we know Goldie was with my wife? Granted...if we're sure about this AND Goldie is RP, we can keep the reavers down by RB Goldie tonight, lynching tomorrow to confirm, and then RB Tom and lynching following day.

[KalelChase]

mass claim is very much against the spirit of the game. It should be banned going forward I would recommend that to future GMs + Council

It does seem that more VTs and the Role based bounty hunter mitigates the strength of it. It's actually a cool tool for town to use, but game design should be that it's useful in certain situations.

[Chaqa]

I suppose now we have to decide what order to lynch Goldie, Kalel, and Worcej in. Kal basically confirming he is the Roleblocker, I'm honestly not super concerned about him... but one of Goldie and worcej has to be the RP, right?

I really think it's Goldie and he visited Tom N1. But it could also be worcej -

but knowing the RP is likely one of these two, we should really go scrutinize their posts from pages 27-32.

How do we know Goldie was with my wife? Granted...if we're sure about this AND Goldie is RP, we can keep the reavers down by RB Goldie tonight, lynching tomorrow to confirm, and then RB Tom and lynching following day.

I mean, I believe our new Companion should be roleblocking Goldie as xorx said.

I think this because Goldie said he doc saved Tom, and Reaper!Goldie would have wanted some cover for why he could be seen visiting Tom. As I said before - if I were RP, Doctor is what I would claim as it gives a cover for visits and is hard to definitively CC.

[BunnyGo]

I suppose now we have to decide what order to lynch Goldie, Kalel, and Worcej in. Kal basically confirming he is the Roleblocker, I'm honestly not super concerned about him... but one of Goldie and worcej has to be the RP, right?

I really think it's Goldie and he visited Tom N1. But it could also be worcej -

but knowing the RP is likely one of these two, we should really go scrutinize their posts from pages 27-32.

How do we know Goldie was with my wife? Granted...if we're sure about this AND Goldie is RP, we can keep the reavers down by RB Goldie tonight, lynching tomorrow to confirm, and then RB Tom and lynching following day.

I mean, I believe our new Companion should be roleblocking Goldie as xorx said.

I think this because Goldie said he doc saved Tom, and Reaper!Goldie would have wanted some cover for why he could be seen visiting Tom. As I said before - if I were RP, Doctor is what I would claim as it gives a cover for visits and is hard to definitively CC.

Giving away who your new reaver is seems foolish.

But as much as it grieves me to say it, my wife was a good target yesterday for reaver. I'm sorry I didn't commute her...

[BunnyGo]

How do we know Goldie was with my wife? Granted...if we're sure about this AND Goldie is RP, we can keep the reavers down by RB Goldie tonight, lynching tomorrow to confirm, and then RB Tom and lynching following day.

I mean, I believe our new Companion should be roleblocking Goldie as xorx said.

I think this because Goldie said he doc saved Tom, and Reaper!Goldie would have wanted some cover for why he could be seen visiting Tom. As I said before - if I were RP, Doctor is what I would claim as it gives a cover for visits and is hard to definitively CC.

Giving away who your new reaver is seems foolish.

But as much as it grieves me to say it, my wife was a good target yesterday for reaver. I'm sorry I didn't commute her...

But I didn't want to block her power saving someone else and having doctor save her...I was expecting that might happen last night.

[bozotheclown]

To be honest, why would BH hide in PR group? Don’t they need to buy lots of time and let us sort out CCs and hope?

The reaver just has to hide in PRs for 1 day to spawn.

I agree, that is why I think this is the most likely option:

worcej: Investigator
goldfinger: Reaver Prime
Kalel: Roleblocker
VT1: Agent
VT2: BH

[bozotheclown]

Not necessarily, but something to consider.

Kalel was toast anyway, so messing with town is messing with town.

I do find goldfinger's BH claim more believable than worcej.

I should take note of how easy you WIFOM in future games. His fake claim is failing and he claimed a new one (BH) when Jamie was confirmed doctor is the exact same thing I did when I screwed my reader claim up.

To be clear, I do not particularly believe either of your BH claims.

[dargorygel]

I do find goldfinger's BH claim more believable than worcej.

I should take note of how easy you WIFOM in future games. His fake claim is failing and he claimed a new one (BH) when Jamie was confirmed doctor is the exact same thing I did when I screwed my reader claim up.

Nor do I
To be clear, I do not particularly believe either of your BH claims.

[dargorygel]

I should take note of how easy you WIFOM in future games. His fake claim is failing and he claimed a new one (BH) when Jamie was confirmed doctor is the exact same thing I did when I screwed my reader claim up.

Nor do I
To be clear, I do not particularly believe either of your BH claims.

Oops...
Nor do I

[bozotheclown]

He would have known xorxes would be getting +2...

True

If I'm the Roleblocker I wouldn't... I'd have no idea if he was a Reaver. If I'm RP then after tonight I've served my primary purpose anyway.

You previously asked xorxes who he would like you to RB, which would indicate you were admitting to being the roleblocker. Are you no longer claiming to be the roleblocker?

[bozotheclown]

He would have known xorxes would be getting +2...

True

If I'm the Roleblocker I wouldn't... I'd have no idea if he was a Reaver. If I'm RP then after tonight I've served my primary purpose anyway.

It is only true you would not know if Jamie is the Reaver if it was possible that goldfinger was the real doctor, which would indicate goldfinger is not your mafia team 1 partner.

[bozotheclown]

Not necessarily, but something to consider.

Kalel was toast anyway, so messing with town is messing with town.

I do find goldfinger's BH claim more believable than worcej.

I should take note of how easy you WIFOM in future games. His fake claim is failing and he claimed a new one (BH) when Jamie was confirmed doctor is the exact same thing I did when I screwed my reader claim up.

This almost sounds like worcej is admitting his BH claim is fake.

[worcej]

I do find goldfinger's BH claim more believable than worcej.

I should take note of how easy you WIFOM in future games. His fake claim is failing and he claimed a new one (BH) when Jamie was confirmed doctor is the exact same thing I did when I screwed my reader claim up.

This almost sounds like worcej is admitting his BH claim is fake.

Maybe it is. Maybe it isn’t.

Which wine glass would you like?