MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2661 Post by xorxes » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:25 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:19 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:15 pm
So it seems highly unlikely that goldfinger is in a team with two VT claimants.
Absolutely agreed. Because I am not on a scum team
I think your main problem is explaining the two Companion claims.

If Jamiet is the Roleblocker, why did two people claim Companion, who is lying, and how did they decide to claim that role specifically?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2662 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:29 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:25 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:19 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:15 pm
So it seems highly unlikely that goldfinger is in a team with two VT claimants.
Absolutely agreed. Because I am not on a scum team
I think your main problem is explaining the two Companion claims.

If Jamiet is the Roleblocker, why did two people claim Companion, who is lying, and how did they decide to claim that role specifically?
Agreed. And I think Jamie’s outburst is his hardest part.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2663 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:30 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:25 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:19 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:15 pm
So it seems highly unlikely that goldfinger is in a team with two VT claimants.
Absolutely agreed. Because I am not on a scum team
I think your main problem is explaining the two Companion claims.

If Jamiet is the Roleblocker, why did two people claim Companion, who is lying, and how did they decide to claim that role specifically?
Honestly, I think that the reaper prime is between worcej and the companion claims (assuming that you have not been reaper'd, which I think unlikely). The other is the investigator. Remember Bunny's analysis that showed worcej and Kalel as the two most likely to have violated the press restrictions?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2664 Post by Chaqa » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:30 pm

Still say Jamie is Doc, Hosuke is RB.

Goldie is probably RP. Doctor is a good one to claim as it can explain visits without risking too many counter-verifiable claims.

This leaves Agent and Investigator in the VT claims, or worcej.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2665 Post by Chaqa » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:31 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:30 pm
Still say Jamie is Doc, Hosuke is RB.

Goldie is probably RP. Doctor is a good one to claim as it can explain visits without risking too many counter-verifiable claims.

This leaves Agent and Investigator in the VT claims, or worcej.
And if I’m right. Goldie converted Tom, I think,

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#2666 Post by xorxes » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:36 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:31 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:30 pm
Still say Jamie is Doc, Hosuke is RB.

Goldie is probably RP. Doctor is a good one to claim as it can explain visits without risking too many counter-verifiable claims.

This leaves Agent and Investigator in the VT claims, or worcej.
And if I’m right. Goldie converted Tom, I think,
You have not been reading the thread in full, have you?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2667 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:37 pm

I swear, Chaqa's analyses are all half-baked today. Is he always like this, or was my last game where he was spot-on just an anomaly?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2668 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:37 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:36 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:31 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:30 pm
Still say Jamie is Doc, Hosuke is RB.

Goldie is probably RP. Doctor is a good one to claim as it can explain visits without risking too many counter-verifiable claims.

This leaves Agent and Investigator in the VT claims, or worcej.
And if I’m right. Goldie converted Tom, I think,
You have not been reading the thread in full, have you?
I mean...it’s nice he repeats things for us.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2669 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:38 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:37 pm
I swear, Chaqa's analyses are all half-baked today. Is he always like this, or was my last game where he was spot-on just an anomaly?
Last game wasn’t great either. But he’s enthusiastic.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2670 Post by Chaqa » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:39 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:36 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:31 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:30 pm
Still say Jamie is Doc, Hosuke is RB.

Goldie is probably RP. Doctor is a good one to claim as it can explain visits without risking too many counter-verifiable claims.

This leaves Agent and Investigator in the VT claims, or worcej.
And if I’m right. Goldie converted Tom, I think,
You have not been reading the thread in full, have you?
Did I miss something big?

I’ve been a bit preoccupied the last day or so

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2671 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:39 pm

@Kalel, did you find my crumb? I figured of all the players you’d be the most likely to.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2672 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:40 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:39 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:36 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:31 pm


And if I’m right. Goldie converted Tom, I think,
You have not been reading the thread in full, have you?
Did I miss something big?

I’ve been a bit preoccupied the last day or so
No. Just all this has been said at least twice. Like I said, repeating it is nice.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2673 Post by Chaqa » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:40 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:37 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:36 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:31 pm


And if I’m right. Goldie converted Tom, I think,
You have not been reading the thread in full, have you?
I mean...it’s nice he repeats things for us.
I’ve been saying all of this for the whole day. I get no credit :p

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2674 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:42 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:20 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:15 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:38 pm

Could it be that Goldfinger was bussing his team-mate EMC a little too hard, and his other team-mate Bozo warned him off?

I am not asking Goldfinger to answer this, because I know he is a liar, therefore his answer will probably be a lie. However, I would like everyone else to consider this.
Unlikely.

If goldfinger is Mafia1, then given that you would not be the roleblocker, then Hosuke/Kalel is likely the roleblocker. That means only one Mafia1 claimed VT (presumably the Agent) and so goldfinger would be the Investigator.

That would mean the other scum VT would be the Reaver (or worcej is the Reaver and the other VT the Bounty Hunter).

So it seems highly unlikely that goldfinger is in a team with two VT claimants.
Not to mention that one Mafia member warning another that they're bussing a third member a little too hard just never happens.
Then what is your own interpretation, Xorxes, of the events I described, in which Goldfinger went from strongly pushing an EMC lynch, to criticising people for voting EMC, in very short space of time? Tell me what you think about it.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2675 Post by xorxes » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:42 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:39 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:36 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:31 pm


And if I’m right. Goldie converted Tom, I think,
You have not been reading the thread in full, have you?
Did I miss something big?

I’ve been a bit preoccupied the last day or so
I said a couple pages back more or less the same you just did.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2676 Post by xorxes » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:46 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:42 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:20 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:15 pm


Unlikely.

If goldfinger is Mafia1, then given that you would not be the roleblocker, then Hosuke/Kalel is likely the roleblocker. That means only one Mafia1 claimed VT (presumably the Agent) and so goldfinger would be the Investigator.

That would mean the other scum VT would be the Reaver (or worcej is the Reaver and the other VT the Bounty Hunter).

So it seems highly unlikely that goldfinger is in a team with two VT claimants.
Not to mention that one Mafia member warning another that they're bussing a third member a little too hard just never happens.
Then what is your own interpretation, Xorxes, of the events I described, in which Goldfinger went from strongly pushing an EMC lynch, to criticising people for voting EMC, in very short space of time? Tell me what you think about it.
If he is the Reaver, he may not care that his views are not too consistent.

If he is teammates with emc (which would mean emc is the Agent), bozo was just an innocent bystander.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2677 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:48 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:19 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:15 pm
So it seems highly unlikely that goldfinger is in a team with two VT claimants.
Absolutely agreed.
Town ought to have at least two genuine VT claimants left alive.

You agree you are not on a team with two VT claimants.

This is interesting.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2678 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:49 pm

FYI I’ll likely miss EOD. This shouldn’t matter as I’m not allowed to move my vote.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2679 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:52 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:29 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:25 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:19 pm


Absolutely agreed. Because I am not on a scum team
I think your main problem is explaining the two Companion claims.

If Jamiet is the Roleblocker, why did two people claim Companion, who is lying, and how did they decide to claim that role specifically?
Agreed. And I think Jamie’s outburst is his hardest part.
I am a hot-headed borderline alcoholic. I average 1.2 emotional outbursts per game.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#2680 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:58 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:42 pm

Then what is your own interpretation, Xorxes, of the events I described, in which Goldfinger went from strongly pushing an EMC lynch, to criticising people for voting EMC, in very short space of time? Tell me what you think about it.
If you go back, when I voted for emc, peterlund and Kalel pretty much immediately joined the wagon without being too convincing. bozo pointed this out, and I was wary of the sheeping.

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