MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

##Call GM: For the BH, is it players or roles (that have names) that are the targets?

I get what you are asking me now Chaqa. If it is just players, then massclaim away. If it is roles, then we need to be weary.

It was painfully clear to everyone except apparently to worcej that it was players. Yet he spent a good amount of D1 letting us all know that he had not read the roles and that he thought it was roles.

I think it's at least as likely that Worcej was very well aware of the answer to this question and was attempting to create the opposite impression.

Yes, that's what I was suggesting.

[BunnyGo]

I’d be very happy lynching Goldie today on the chance the reaver didn’t spawn.

I would love to lynch Goldfinger today. But you can't move now, Bunny, can you?

Who else wants to lynch Goldfinger? I know he is not the Doctor.

I cannot. But I can lobby.

[xorxes]

I would rather lynch Kalel because if we're right we most likely got rid of the roleblocker (then our PRs have much better chances to use their powers). If Hosuke is the scum I think he has to be the Investigator, which is less of a threat to us.

I still think in your theory that lynching reaver!goldie is the bigger win.

It sacrifices a little information for a huge win eliminating all reavers.

Reaver!goldie is only one of the scenarios. And there's no reason to suppose that he wouldn't have recruited. And if it turns out that he is the Reaver, he could be roleblocked N2 thus preventing him from recruiting. That's even better than lynching him, because if we lynch him and he did recruit, then Reaver Secundus will be able to recruit.

So I think Hosuke/Kalel is a better choice for today.

[BunnyGo]

I still think in your theory that lynching reaver!goldie is the bigger win.

It sacrifices a little information for a huge win eliminating all reavers.

Reaver!goldie is only one of the scenarios. And there's no reason to suppose that he wouldn't have recruited. And if it turns out that he is the Reaver, he could be roleblocked N2 thus preventing him from recruiting. That's even better than lynching him, because if we lynch him and he did recruit, then Reaver Secundus will be able to recruit.

So I think Hosuke/Kalel is a better choice for today.

That is a good argument.

[xorxes]

@Bunny; it is not completely impossible that you are the RP yourself. If you figured out who was the Pilot and you recruited them, then you could safely claim the role and not risk a counterclaim, while they claim something else...

It would have to be someone who claimed their role after EON. Who were those?

[BunnyGo]

@Bunny; it is not completely impossible that you are the RP yourself. If you figured out who was the Pilot and you recruited them, then you could safely claim the role and not risk a counterclaim, while they claim something else...

It would have to be someone who claimed their role after EON. Who were those?

Actually, wouldn’t it have to be somebody who claimed VT but was actually pilot?

[BunnyGo]

@Bunny; it is not completely impossible that you are the RP yourself. If you figured out who was the Pilot and you recruited them, then you could safely claim the role and not risk a counterclaim, while they claim something else...

It would have to be someone who claimed their role after EON. Who were those?

Why would they CC at all after night? They’d let me take pilot and they’d stay hidden in VT.

[xorxes]

@Bunny; it is not completely impossible that you are the RP yourself. If you figured out who was the Pilot and you recruited them, then you could safely claim the role and not risk a counterclaim, while they claim something else...

It would have to be someone who claimed their role after EON. Who were those?

Why would they CC at all after night? They’d let me take pilot and they’d stay hidden in VT.

If they were Pilot D1 they would not have known they had to claim VT until start of D2. But everyone had already claimed PR/VT by then.

So they have to have claimed PR, but specify which only after EON.

[xorxes]

If goldie is the Reaver, he may have recruited Tom, who he claims to have visited. Something to bear in mind.

[BunnyGo]

If goldie is the Reaver, he may have recruited Tom, who he claims to have visited. Something to bear in mind.

Especially with Tom going silent.

But why would reaver!goldie be telling the truth?

[xorxes]

If goldie is the Reaver, he may have recruited Tom, who he claims to have visited. Something to bear in mind.

Especially with Tom going silent.

But why would reaver!goldie be telling the truth?

In case Watcher was watching Tom.

[xorxes]

If goldie is the Reaver, he may have recruited Tom, who he claims to have visited. Something to bear in mind.

Especially with Tom going silent.

But why would reaver!goldie be telling the truth?

In case Watcher was watching Tom.

Did dargo say who he watched before or after goldie claimed he saved Tom?

[Jamiet99uk]

Especially with Tom going silent.

But why would reaver!goldie be telling the truth?

In case Watcher was watching Tom.

Did dargo say who he watched before or after goldie claimed he saved Tom?

Goldie claimed he saved Tom on page 94.

Dargorygel said he watched "someone Jamie visited" on page 96, and then confirmed that person was Tom on page 98.

[Jamiet99uk]

In case Watcher was watching Tom.

Did dargo say who he watched before or after goldie claimed he saved Tom?

Goldie claimed he saved Tom on page 94.

Dargorygel said he watched "someone Jamie visited" on page 96, and then confirmed that person was Xorxes on page 98.

EBWOP - sorry, typing too fast.

So Goldie claimed he visited Tom *before* Darg mentioned who he watched.

[xorxes]

Did dargo say who he watched before or after goldie claimed he saved Tom?

Goldie claimed he saved Tom on page 94.

Dargorygel said he watched "someone Jamie visited" on page 96, and then confirmed that person was Xorxes on page 98.

EBWOP - sorry, typing too fast.

So Goldie claimed he visited Tom *before* Darg mentioned who he watched.

Those two could be our Reavers then.

[Tom Bombadil]

I know that I’m not reaver

But y’all should think about how illogical a choice I would be for a reaver visit considering I’m unlikely to make it late in the game. If anything peter would be a stronger choice for reaver since he is likely to make it late in the game

[xorxes]

I know that I’m not reaver

But y’all should think about how illogical a choice I would be for a reaver visit considering I’m unlikely to make it late in the game. If anything peter would be a stronger choice for reaver since he is likely to make it late in the game

Somethng to worry about in the future. We don't even know if goldie is PR yet.

[Jamiet99uk]

I know that I’m not reaver

But y’all should think about how illogical a choice I would be for a reaver visit considering I’m unlikely to make it late in the game. If anything peter would be a stronger choice for reaver since he is likely to make it late in the game

Do you think that Goldfinger visited you, at all?

[xorxes]

I know that I’m not reaver

But y’all should think about how illogical a choice I would be for a reaver visit considering I’m unlikely to make it late in the game. If anything peter would be a stronger choice for reaver since he is likely to make it late in the game

Somethng to worry about in the future. We don't even know if goldie is PR yet.

I mean RP,,,

[Jamiet99uk]

I know that I’m not reaver

But y’all should think about how illogical a choice I would be for a reaver visit considering I’m unlikely to make it late in the game. If anything peter would be a stronger choice for reaver since he is likely to make it late in the game

Somethng to worry about in the future. We don't even know if goldie is PR yet.

I know that he is not the Doctor.

I'm doing an ISO on him now.