MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

oh wow. I've never been n1'd before! Thanks @scum I'm so honored.

Is teacon lying here?

The NK probably did target Rdr directly, as Rdr said that he did not activate his Twin action. I see it as MUCH more probable that scum NK rdr than teacon. Sorry Teacon to disturb you in your joyful moment...

If he were lying, we would have another twin claim...

Are you even playing the same game?

[damo666]

I think it's more likely that worcej is reaver than kalel/hosuke.

I think Bozo is leading scum candidate among the VT.

Finding the Reaver is not the most important thing at this stage. There's no reason to think worcej is more likely the Reaver than any other scum role. Not wasting lynches is more important than finding the Reaver. Lynching BH is a waste of a lynch. If we lynch Kalel for example, and he ends up being a BH target, we get confirmation that worcej is lying and then we can lynch him without wasting a lynch. Reducing the number of unknowns is the most important thing now.

Makes me wonder ifReaver!worcej infected xorxes and he’s using Jamie as a scapegoat.

Darg would have seen

[Chaqa]

I wonder why Goldfinger picked the Doctor as the role he chose to fakeclaim. If I had to come up with a fakeclaim, Doctor certianly isn't the role I would have picked.

Covers for a visit and little way to prove a CC?

[Chaqa]

I wonder why Goldfinger picked the Doctor as the role he chose to fakeclaim. If I had to come up with a fakeclaim, Doctor certianly isn't the role I would have picked.

Actually wonder if Goldie May be RP now...

[damo666]

oh wow. I've never been n1'd before! Thanks @scum I'm so honored.

Is teacon lying here?

The NK probably did target Rdr directly, as Rdr said that he did not activate his Twin action. I see it as MUCH more probable that scum NK rdr than teacon. Sorry Teacon to disturb you in your joyful moment...

If he were lying, we would have another twin claim...

Are you even playing the same game?

He could be lying to try catch a scumslip

[xorxes]

I think it's more likely that worcej is reaver than kalel/hosuke.

I think Bozo is leading scum candidate among the VT.

Finding the Reaver is not the most important thing at this stage. There's no reason to think worcej is more likely the Reaver than any other scum role. Not wasting lynches is more important than finding the Reaver. Lynching BH is a waste of a lynch. If we lynch Kalel for example, and he ends up being a BH target, we get confirmation that worcej is lying and then we can lynch him without wasting a lynch. Reducing the number of unknowns is the most important thing now.

Makes me wonder ifReaver!worcej infected xorxes and he’s using Jamie as a scapegoat.

Want to counterclaim worcej?

[Chaqa]

Do we not already know that I'm the only person who visited you?

You know I didn't Roleblock you.

Roleblock doesn't work like that this game.

What do you mean? Roleblockers don't visit?

They’re not informed until EoD... it’s weird.

[Chaqa]

Finding the Reaver is not the most important thing at this stage. There's no reason to think worcej is more likely the Reaver than any other scum role. Not wasting lynches is more important than finding the Reaver. Lynching BH is a waste of a lynch. If we lynch Kalel for example, and he ends up being a BH target, we get confirmation that worcej is lying and then we can lynch him without wasting a lynch. Reducing the number of unknowns is the most important thing now.

Makes me wonder ifReaver!worcej infected xorxes and he’s using Jamie as a scapegoat.

Darg would have seen

Oh good call, I forgot Dargo was a watcher not a tracker.

[Chaqa]

Finding the Reaver is not the most important thing at this stage. There's no reason to think worcej is more likely the Reaver than any other scum role. Not wasting lynches is more important than finding the Reaver. Lynching BH is a waste of a lynch. If we lynch Kalel for example, and he ends up being a BH target, we get confirmation that worcej is lying and then we can lynch him without wasting a lynch. Reducing the number of unknowns is the most important thing now.

Makes me wonder ifReaver!worcej infected xorxes and he’s using Jamie as a scapegoat.

Want to counterclaim worcej?

??

[Chaqa]

Not as bad as a catchup as I thought.

I think we have a million paths to victory. They all seem mostly fine.

Worcej is just a caught scum already though..

[bozotheclown]

Finding the Reaver is not the most important thing at this stage. There's no reason to think worcej is more likely the Reaver than any other scum role. Not wasting lynches is more important than finding the Reaver. Lynching BH is a waste of a lynch. If we lynch Kalel for example, and he ends up being a BH target, we get confirmation that worcej is lying and then we can lynch him without wasting a lynch. Reducing the number of unknowns is the most important thing now.

We do not know if worcej is the BH, so lynching him does eliminate an unknown. Also, lynching the wrong Companion claim would be a wasted lynch. Hopefully the ItsHosuke RB claim will help resolve the Companion claims.

Worcej is not an unknown, he is known scum and he provided info that would support or disprove his BH claim. I'm surprised you want to lynch him now.

It is better to lynch the BH than mislynch in the PR claims, so I think lynching worcej today is a good option since we know we will be able to lynch the fake Doctor D3. If I was 100% certain worcej is the BH, I would not want to lynch him. However, if he is mafia, he likely provided us with 3 fake town targets that the mafia will not NK, so it would take a mislynch to confirm his claim until a real BH target gets killed. If ItsHosuke helps resolve the Companion claims, I will change my vote to the likely fake Companion claimant.

[bozotheclown]

I doubt anyone will want to lynch goldie today because you two will be sorted at EOD. If you want to force us to choose it makes more sense to lynch you because if you are scum you are either roleblocker (great catch) or Reaver (also great because I'd be caught as well). If goldie is the scum he could also be BH or Investigator or Reaver without extra info, so not as enticing.

So if you are town don't focus on goldie, (nor already caught worcej). Find the rest of the scum.

Okay then, I know another scum.

##Vote BOZOTHECLOWN

Agreed. But worcej is higher priority. Don’t let the worst captain ever lead this. Follow the pilot. I’ll take us there anyways.

Since you are now confirmed town, I would like to know why you think I am most likely to be scum among the VT claimants. ND and Chaqa are now my top suspects, their voting for each other at the start of D2 when it was obvious that we would have scum vs. town CCs today was a little too over the top.

[Foxcastle]

I think we should continue to lynch Worcej today.

Of the Goldie/Jamie claim, I would lynch Jamiet, based mostly on a gut read of Jamiet's behavior.

Of the Super/Kalel claim, I would lynch Kalel. Given that Super was new, I doubt he would have gone for a CC when he could have hidden in the VTs.

Chaqa looks like he's flailing around trying to save somebody.

[peterlund]

I wonder why Goldfinger picked the Doctor as the role he chose to fakeclaim. If I had to come up with a fakeclaim, Doctor certianly isn't the role I would have picked.

I doubt anyone will want to lynch goldie today because you two will be sorted at EOD. If you want to force us to choose it makes more sense to lynch you because if you are scum you are either roleblocker (great catch) or Reaver (also great because I'd be caught as well). If goldie is the scum he could also be BH or Investigator or Reaver without extra info, so not as enticing.

So if you are town don't focus on goldie, (nor already caught worcej). Find the rest of the scum.

As GM has confirmed that the "+C" will be there in the final VC regardless if Xorxes has been reavered or not, we must make sure that the +2 effect is visible. Half town must be voting for what Xorxes is not voting for. Xorx needs to be on the second largest wagon and only if he still has the +2 power his wagon wins.

[Foxcastle]

I think we should continue to lynch Worcej today.

Of the Goldie/Jamie claim, I would lynch Jamiet, based mostly on a gut read of Jamiet's behavior.

Of the Super/Kalel claim, I would lynch Kalel. Given that Super was new, I doubt he would have gone for a CC when he could have hidden in the VTs.

Chaqa looks like he's flailing around trying to save somebody.

I guess if there's something clever to do about the Reavers, I'd be open to that instead of Worcej, since they're more of a problem than he is at the moment. But I'd rather hang Worcej for being either scum or BH than just stabbing at other less sure options.

[Chaqa]

I think we should continue to lynch Worcej today.

Of the Goldie/Jamie claim, I would lynch Jamiet, based mostly on a gut read of Jamiet's behavior.

Of the Super/Kalel claim, I would lynch Kalel. Given that Super was new, I doubt he would have gone for a CC when he could have hidden in the VTs.

Chaqa looks like he's flailing around trying to save somebody.

?? who? or you just throwing shade bc youre scum?

[Chaqa]

I wonder why Goldfinger picked the Doctor as the role he chose to fakeclaim. If I had to come up with a fakeclaim, Doctor certianly isn't the role I would have picked.

I doubt anyone will want to lynch goldie today because you two will be sorted at EOD. If you want to force us to choose it makes more sense to lynch you because if you are scum you are either roleblocker (great catch) or Reaver (also great because I'd be caught as well). If goldie is the scum he could also be BH or Investigator or Reaver without extra info, so not as enticing.

So if you are town don't focus on goldie, (nor already caught worcej). Find the rest of the scum.

As GM has confirmed that the "+C" will be there in the final VC regardless if Xorxes has been reavered or not, we must make sure that the +2 effect is visible. Half town must be voting for what Xorxes is not voting for. Xorx needs to be on the second largest wagon and only if he still has the +2 power his wagon wins.

Great way to cause a tie.

[Foxcastle]

I think we should continue to lynch Worcej today.

Of the Goldie/Jamie claim, I would lynch Jamiet, based mostly on a gut read of Jamiet's behavior.

Of the Super/Kalel claim, I would lynch Kalel. Given that Super was new, I doubt he would have gone for a CC when he could have hidden in the VTs.

Chaqa looks like he's flailing around trying to save somebody.

?? who? or you just throwing shade bc youre scum?

Just in my catchup from yesterday evening through this morning it looked to me like you were jumping around to a lot of different plans, a lot of which centered on lynching other PRs or VT claimants and not actually processing CC's or the claimed BH.

[Foxcastle]

I think we should continue to lynch Worcej today.

Of the Goldie/Jamie claim, I would lynch Jamiet, based mostly on a gut read of Jamiet's behavior.

Of the Super/Kalel claim, I would lynch Kalel. Given that Super was new, I doubt he would have gone for a CC when he could have hidden in the VTs.

Chaqa looks like he's flailing around trying to save somebody.

?? who? or you just throwing shade bc youre scum?

Also, speaking of throwing shade for no good reason, is this just OMGUS?

[BunnyGo]

I think X has convinced me.

##vote Kalel for now.

Wait for news from Itso.

Just had another thought against lynching worcej. Makes it easy for scum to hitch a ride if he is in fact BH.

Also of course if he is BH leaving him for a while prolongs his agony.

Mistake. Wrong about the CC fight. And wrong to leave worcej.

Can you provide brief analysis please Bunny

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