MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[dargorygel]

Although reaver... I might be a target because if I'm not early lynched or shot by damo I often seem to be in endgame

[bozotheclown]

Confirmed PR
xorxes (Captain)
peterlund (Hero of Mudtown)
Tom Bombadil (First Mate)

Claimed PR
teacon
darg
rdrivera
damo
worcej
Jamie
Goldfinger
Kalel
BunnyGo
Superstition (Companion)

Claimed VT
Chaqa
emc
bozo
Temasek
ND
Foxcastle

[bozotheclown]

PRs claiming is no longer as helpful N1, but I think it should happen D2 to lynch in the counterclaims.

[teacon7]

ugh. I guess it's good to have two more clears...? I really wish this hadn't happened until EoN. still gross.

I'll be catching up and replying as I go.

[teacon7]

Although reaver... I might be a target because if I'm not early lynched or shot by damo I often seem to be in endgame

are you... asking to get reavered?

[Tom Bombadil]

PRs claiming is no longer as helpful N1, but I think it should happen D2 to lynch in the counterclaims.

Agreed.

[worcej]

Ffs peter. Jesus Christ.

You know why mass claims work. Because we could have towncleared ourselves without you fucking shooting me and wasting your shot and wasting my vest

Sigh... we have a bad track records with Vig's lately...

[teacon7]

Sorry guys I cant keep up and I have no idea what 80% of the verbiage you guys are using. I dont even know what scum is, nonetheless vt massclaim etc. I'm used to just the basics in person so this might all be too advanced for me. It's a bad feeling to read for 30 minutes and still be lost. Kitsune is gonna look for a sub. I'll struggle through the best I can.

@Superstition: I'm sorry to hear that. That does sound frustrating and, well, I know the feeling.

Ask us questions! We'd love to help. We were all newbies once. imo any barriers to learning the jargon are well worth it. I had a rough first (several) games on this score. Whether you stay or go... you're not alone. Don't feel bad.

I suspect that this particular setup would be rough to jump into at first. We'd be happy to help with any of the lingo. Peterlund posted a link to the most excellent bot that he made, and it includes a guide to the jargon/lingo. mafia.peterlund.se.

Anyway, whatever happens, thanks for giving us a chance. You're welcome to keep playing. Peace to you. :)

That stinks. I'm curious what your F2F experience is like, for me it's always been:
"I heard them making noise during the night"
"They were giggling!"
"They're too loud/quiet/etc"
Honestly F2F mafia has never been that fun to me.

My f2f experience has largely depended on the group. If it's with casuals or middle schoolers, it's been all about the giggling (and honestly, that's a pretty good method with that group, they spot people really well that way. Something about being developmentally hyperaware of social interaction, I think). With a group of gamers or my family or something, there's enough experience that body language becomes way more NAI. It makes me respect people like my grandparents who would play euchre/sheepshead/pinochle/bridge every week, and know everyone's tells and such. But that was an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

[teacon7]

idk if this is up to date since the reveal of new claims, but here's my input:

Scum survey (pick 3):
Chaqa
emc
bozo
Temasek
ND
Superstition
Foxcastle

bozo: ND, Superstition, Foxcastle
goldfinger: Superstition, emc, bozo
ND: Superstition, Chaqa, ?
Temasek: emc, Superstition, Foxcastle
Chaqa: ND, Temasek, Superstition
dargorygel: emc, Superstition, bozo
worcej: bozo, Superstition, Foxcastle
rdrivera: ND, Temasek, bozo
Kalel: Chaqa, emc, bozo
BunnyGo: bozo, emc, Chaqa
Jamie: emc, bozo, Superstition

teacon: emc, bozo, tem

[worcej]

Ffs peter. Jesus Christ.

You know why mass claims work. Because we could have towncleared ourselves without you fucking shooting me and wasting your shot and wasting my vest

Why does our vigilante always suck?

Doing stupid things and wasting all of towns powers. Gorram it. I don’t know why Peter is doing this, just because people are doing dumb things doesn’t mean you need to also.

Well... There was one time

You were not a Vig lol...

[bozotheclown]

idk if this is up to date since the reveal of new claims, but here's my input:

Scum survey (pick 3):
Chaqa
emc
bozo
Temasek
ND
Superstition
Foxcastle

bozo: ND, Superstition, Foxcastle
goldfinger: Superstition, emc, bozo
ND: Superstition, Chaqa, ?
Temasek: emc, Superstition, Foxcastle
Chaqa: ND, Temasek, Superstition
dargorygel: emc, Superstition, bozo
worcej: bozo, Superstition, Foxcastle
rdrivera: ND, Temasek, bozo
Kalel: Chaqa, emc, bozo
BunnyGo: bozo, emc, Chaqa
Jamie: emc, bozo, Superstition

teacon: emc, bozo, tem

Thanks, Superstition has claimed Companion, so this is now out of date. There are now 2 scum in the following:

Chaqa
emc
bozo
Temasek
ND
Foxcastle

[Jamiet99uk]

My picks are EMC, Bozo

[worcej]

No point bemoaning the wasted shot, 3 clears in a pool of 10 PRs is solid this early. We will have some scum to sort out in the group. M1 is probably pretty much fucked.

My 2cents: Reapers are the greater threat post-D2. They (the team) will most likely get through the mass-claim now that someone will most likely be converted and know their previous role to sneak by. Then on N2 will recruit again .

[teacon7]

This information about the Reaver Communication Restrictions is part of the closed area of this semi-open setup.

Annoying, but... imo this makes the game more fun. Thank you.

I am JAYNE COBB, the HERO OF MUDTOWN. (the town vig) ...

Well after the shot, you're a clear now, no? So let's make use of the information we have.

This isn’t stupid...this is science! We’ll find that reaver, don’t worry.

This makes me want to see a Portal 2 themed mafia game. There will be cake.

It’s almost like *gasp* sometimes PRs want to fly under the radar!

Behold, a perfect opportunity to have made a totally unnecessary "fly casual chewie" reference and first mate breadcrumb.

In my opinion, if peterlund is going to shoot someone N1, the PRs should claim their roles to give him a 50/50 shot. It will also give the other PRs a better idea of how to best use their powers N1.

I am strongly opposed to claiming roles before EoN. Wait out the night before a fuller mass claim, even if it means holding the shot....? I don't want scum to have role info as well. They know who among the claimants is/isn't PR.

So we need to go back to the original forum posts and copy and paste those in new posts. Then we’ll trigger another warning (assuming the above hypotheses) and nab the reaver!

This is an excellent idea.

if someone fails to quote... they get a vote. heh i crack myself up.

tbf, if we all post quotes of the same thing, we'll trigger another warning, but might not get useful info. It'll be the same dataset of posts, won't it?

Are you keeping track of whether every re-post is word for word consistent with the previous post? If it's something silly like misspellings or @ symbol calls, I can see it being easy to fix in a way that is unnoticable unless you look really hard.

I studied Law and International Relations. I missed the course on "How to communicate with idiots", sorry about that.

Kinda seems like that would be a useful course in any profession.

Since the Reader can scan during the day, I expected the Reader to scan someone D1 and report the result N1.

Ah, good catch. I should go back and actually re-read the PRs, I suppose.

quiet PR claimants seems like the best option. Super's a good one. damo and rdriv too.

I think the PRs should claim now to give peterlund a good shot, since he plans to shoot today.

This is also reasonable.

we're not gonna get full participation, imo. look at how long the mass claim took. And even then, that's if everyone can be on at EoN. I'd rather everyone claimed D2. This prevents role information being used by maf for NK purposes.

Wait, that's the announcement? A shot rings out?

Peter shot me. I am first mate and had a bulletproof vest

ugh.

@tom
@peter
you'd better post reads tonight, in case they target you.

[Chaqa]

idk if this is up to date since the reveal of new claims, but here's my input:

Scum survey (pick 3):
Chaqa
emc
bozo
Temasek
ND
Superstition
Foxcastle

bozo: ND, Superstition, Foxcastle
goldfinger: Superstition, emc, bozo
ND: Superstition, Chaqa, ?
Temasek: emc, Superstition, Foxcastle
Chaqa: ND, Temasek, Superstition
dargorygel: emc, Superstition, bozo
worcej: bozo, Superstition, Foxcastle
rdrivera: ND, Temasek, bozo
Kalel: Chaqa, emc, bozo
BunnyGo: bozo, emc, Chaqa
Jamie: emc, bozo, Superstition

teacon: emc, bozo, tem

Thanks, Superstition has claimed Companion, so this is now out of date. There are now 2 scum in the following:

Chaqa
emc
bozo
Temasek
ND
Foxcastle

ND/Fox probably.

ND might just be a personal bias. If not him... probably EMC.

[bozotheclown]

A lot of players had picked Superstition, and most players seemed to list their choices in order, so I will drop the third choice from anyone who did not pick Superstition. Anyone can edit the list if they object.

Scum survey (pick 2):
Chaqa
emc
bozo
Temasek
ND
Foxcastle

bozo: ND, Foxcastle
goldfinger: emc, bozo
ND: Chaqa, ?
Temasek: emc, Foxcastle
Chaqa: ND, Temasek
dargorygel: emc, bozo
worcej: bozo, Foxcastle
rdrivera: ND, Temasek
Kalel: Chaqa, emc
BunnyGo: bozo, emc
Jamie: emc, bozo
xorxes: ND, Foxcastle
teacon: emc, bozo

[bozotheclown]

A lot of players had picked Superstition, and most players seemed to list their choices in order, so I will drop the third choice from anyone who did not pick Superstition. Anyone can edit the list if they object.

Scum survey (pick 2):
Chaqa
emc
bozo
Temasek
ND
Foxcastle

bozo: ND, Foxcastle
goldfinger: emc, bozo
ND: Chaqa, ?
Temasek: emc, Foxcastle
Chaqa: ND, Foxcastle
dargorygel: emc, bozo
worcej: bozo, Foxcastle
rdrivera: ND, Temasek
Kalel: Chaqa, emc
BunnyGo: bozo, emc
Jamie: emc, bozo
xorxes: ND, Foxcastle
teacon: emc, bozo

[teacon7]

No point bemoaning the wasted shot, 3 clears in a pool of 10 PRs is solid this early. We will have some scum to sort out in the group. M1 is probably pretty much fucked.

My 2cents: Reapers are the greater threat post-D2. They (the team) will most likely get through the mass-claim now that someone will most likely be converted and know their previous role to sneak by. Then on N2 will recruit again .

We need to discuss when to claim roles. I don't think it's a good idea to do before we've figured out the VT pool a little better.

If reaver prime know which roles are claimed, his pick for r2 and r3 will be that much harder to root out.

[teacon7]

fwiw the ">" notation is a lot better for indicating lynch orders.

thus that: "teacon: bozo > emc >>> tem > fox"

shows that I want to lynch bozo more than emc, but both of those are a lot more than tem or fox.

[bozotheclown]

No point bemoaning the wasted shot, 3 clears in a pool of 10 PRs is solid this early. We will have some scum to sort out in the group. M1 is probably pretty much fucked.

My 2cents: Reapers are the greater threat post-D2. They (the team) will most likely get through the mass-claim now that someone will most likely be converted and know their previous role to sneak by. Then on N2 will recruit again .

We need to discuss when to claim roles. I don't think it's a good idea to do before we've figured out the VT pool a little better.

If reaver prime know which roles are claimed, his pick for r2 and r3 will be that much harder to root out.

I think the PRs should claim their roles D2, it gives us the best chance to lynch scum D2. Maybe the Reader will provide more information about the VT claimants.