MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[goldfinger0303]

@gold I could see emc too. I don't feel like he said a whole lot with substance early on. Why him over flavius?

I just say that because I did an in-depth read on emc's posts, and after I posted my case he gave a quip and disappeared until...now, apparently. I just haven't done as deep a dive on flav's posts. I'll be taking a look in the next few minutes though.

[e.m.c^42]

but, back to gold, most of his first post on me is wrong with exception of excessive banter lol

What are everyone else's cases, I don't have enough time to prove through activity or other cases

[bozotheclown]

Alright. I'm 20 something pages behind and don't have the ability to catch up properly. Bot tells me I'm leading wagon, could someone tl;dr important points for me please?

1. xorxes is confirmed as Captain.

2. We have 11 PR claims for 10 spots.

3. A number of players have picked you to vote for out of those who did not claim PR.

[goldfinger0303]

A number of emc voters are questionable.

Yeah, I get the feeling a number of people are just sheeping. Not that it matters too too much because there's three scum teams and he's my top scum read, but it's something I'm paying attention to.

[e.m.c^42]

@gold I could see emc too. I don't feel like he said a whole lot with substance early on. Why him over flavius?

I just say that because I did an in-depth read on emc's posts, and after I posted my case he gave a quip and disappeared until...now, apparently. I just haven't done as deep a dive on flav's posts. I'll be taking a look in the next few minutes though.

Ayy. I'll answer properly tonight if I live till then. New year's got in the way of it lol, just woke up

[KalelChase]

Why Kalel, who is a PR claim?

I think he is most likely to be the extra PR.

I would not advocate lynching him today, however.

I can't wait to see your case.

[e.m.c^42]

Alright. I'm 20 something pages behind and don't have the ability to catch up properly. Bot tells me I'm leading wagon, could someone tl;dr important points for me please?

1. xorxes is confirmed as Captain.

2. We have 11 PR claims for 10 spots.

3. A number of players have picked you to vote for out of those who did not claim PR.

Alright. Thanks.

So, asides from my seemingly contentlessfluff leaning posts that are too subtly sprinkled with opinions, and my absence, is there any other reasons for scumreading me?

[xorxes]

##VOTE Flav

[Chaqa]

Wow. Can we vote chaqa?

Why, do you prefer the vig die without taking a 50% shot?

Yes. Their odds of dying are lower. They can shoot at night with more info. They can wait. They can claim and get protection. (I’m not advocating any or all of these. But it’s just off the top of my head better than shooting into a crowd) But shooting now means they likely won’t get another shot.

Eh, I suppose a night shot is oK, but it can be roleblocked.

[BunnyGo]

A number of emc voters are questionable.

Same with Chaq voters.

[Chaqa]

A number of emc voters are questionable.

It's not the best wagon. I'm "ok" with it, but I would prefer ND, Flavius, or peter.

[e.m.c^42]

fuck I feel like throwing up

Agh. I'm in no position to properly do anything atm, sorry guys

[bozotheclown]

A number of emc voters are questionable.

Yeah, I get the feeling a number of people are just sheeping. Not that it matters too too much because there's three scum teams and he's my top scum read, but it's something I'm paying attention to.

Why not vote with xorxes? You said the Captain should claim so he could lead the lynch.

[KalelChase]

##VOTE Flav

So now we're tied.

[goldfinger0303]

Why, do you prefer the vig die without taking a 50% shot?

Yes. Their odds of dying are lower. They can shoot at night with more info. They can wait. They can claim and get protection. (I’m not advocating any or all of these. But it’s just off the top of my head better than shooting into a crowd) But shooting now means they likely won’t get another shot.

Eh, I suppose a night shot is oK, but it can be roleblocked.

Night shot can happen before end of night, so it cannot be roleblocked.

[bozotheclown]

A number of emc voters are questionable.

It's not the best wagon. I'm "ok" with it, but I would prefer ND, Flavius, or peter.

I prefer any of those 3 as well, xorxes has chosen ND and I am OK with that.

[Chaqa]

ND/Flavius/peter, roughly that order, for my preference.

##Vote Flavius to join and break the tie as I think EMC is very towny

[goldfinger0303]

A number of emc voters are questionable.

Yeah, I get the feeling a number of people are just sheeping. Not that it matters too too much because there's three scum teams and he's my top scum read, but it's something I'm paying attention to.

Why not vote with xorxes? You said the Captain should claim so he could lead the lynch.

Because I have a good hard town read on ND. Now that xorxes has switched to Flav, whom I said I was open to, I'll ##VOTE FLAV. You're right that it's always better to have a town-led lynch. But I also won't lynch someone I town read. Kalel and peterlund are a little suspect for jumping on the emc train though.

[FlaviusAetius]

Yeah, that's where I am at. I interpreted that the BH has role targets, which they apparently do not.

Mass-claiming makes the most sense. M1, BH, and RP are going to be in a pool of 8 players most likely and narrows down this game a lot for us.

I'm in agreement from a logical perspective. I just don't want it to feel like we "ruined" Kit's setup...

Why do people keep perpetuating this silly notion that massclaims "ruin" a game? If the massclaim solves a game completely, then the game was broken to begin with, it started broken, it can't be ruined. Otherwise, a massclaim is just one more tool to help us solve the game, just like copscans, docsaves, GM reveals, etc.

We're not guaranteed to win with a massclaim, so the game is not broken. The only question here is whether a massclaim is beneficial to town or not at this stage, and my impression is that it is, so I will start it when I finish catching up, unless I read something in the meanwhile that makes me change my mind.

So you mean like if we all just screenshotted our role PMs the game will be solved? Why not!

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE Flavius