MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[KalelChase]

Back to my original vote...

##Vote e.m.c.

[teacon7]

@gold I could see emc too. I don't feel like he said a whole lot with substance early on. Why him over flavius?

[Jamiet99uk]

Chaqa needs to go

Come at me bro

ND, at the wheel of his gas-guzzling pickup truck, the evening sun showing his orange skin in a gentle hue, his MAGA hat pulled down to shade his eyes, a Marlboro drooping from the corner of his mouth. "Chaqa needs to go," he drawled.

Chaqa, in his sleek, classic Camaro, the wind tousling his hair, the sunlight reflecting from the lenses of his wayfarer shades. "Come at me, bro", he quipped in return.

Only one man could be king of the dragstrip tonight. Who would it be?

[FlaviusAetius]

Getting a good town vibe from Chaqa. He's doing is usual stuff, and I would say that his "hedgyness" that other people are pointing out is really anything but. Other people are just trying to tar him. Xorxes I'm a bit confused about, because he's sticking his neck out so damn far, and on such a stupid idea that I'm surprised so many people are following.

With 10 PRs, it'll whittle down our lynch pool to basically a 50/50, which is better that we could normally hope for. This is true. However, it also ensures that the two mafia factions don't fight each other, pretty much guaranteeing that we'll lose 2 PRs the first two nights. Our roleblocker will not know who to target. Theirs will. They can ensure their hits go through. And this all supposes that VTs won't claim a PR to draw a NK (which has happened before in games I was in...not sure if that's in vogue now). Which would just throw everything into chaos.

If we don't mass claim, yes our lynch pool is bigger, and yes the chance of success goes from 50% to 25%. However, the scum chance of a good NK goes down from 100% to 50%. More importantly, the probability of *scum hitting other scum* is gonna be 20%. That's the ideal scenario here, folks. If they're left in the dark, they have the chance of killing each other.

Instead of mass claiming, I would put forward that our captain come forth. That way we know every lynch is going to be town led, or at least lessens the ability of scum to change wagons at the end of phase. Our pilot, doctor, and first mate are all safe and hidden to protect you during the night.

Reading what goldfinger says I absolutely agree with him, massclaiming was a horrible idea and this pretty much proves it sad that we did it because now mafia won’t attack each out other which would of been pretty good
Also I agree with goldfinger again that the bounty hunter I guess really doesn’t matter I’m not sure how we will even find him :I
I was right about the BH though but the bot lied to me and that’s not my fault

[BunnyGo]

@gold I could see emc too. I don't feel like he said a whole lot with substance early on. Why him over flavius?

I agree with what gold has said. Flav is always like this. It is NAI.

[peterlund]

Remember there are currently 3 votes on ND because Xorxes counts for 3.

Ooh that many 3 not 2! Then I better ##vote emc since xorxes is pissed on me aswell.

[Chaqa]

Doesn’t the vig only get more shots with a hit? Maybe they shouldn’t roll the dice.

I’d prefer to roll the dice over him possibly dying or being converted tonight.

Wow. Can we vote chaqa?

Why, do you prefer the vig die without taking a 50% shot?

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE ND

More players might want to consider following the only confirmed town.

Other top scum candidates are peterlund, Flavius, and Kalel.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE ND

More players might want to consider following the only confirmed town.

Other top scum candidates are peterlund, Flavius, and Kalel.

Just because Xorxes is confirmed town doesn't automatically make his reads perfect.

[FlaviusAetius]

So, does anyone have a good argument why we should not massclaim?

"I opposse massclaims on principle" is not a good argument.

There are obviously some drawbacks, but with so few VTs in play a massclaim should always be a consideration.

Both the prime Reaver convert power and Mafia 1 NK would be used against the the powerful town roles.

And as I said already in the signup thread "I will not be part of it" since it is against the spirit of the game.

But noted now that Xorxs and Chaqa are pushing "mass-claim D1" hard. For what purpose??

CHAQA was against it on principal I’m really wondering why he BBC hanged

[teacon7]

I know an easy way to solve that...

[Chaqa]

Chaqa needs to go

Come at me bro

ND, at the wheel of his gas-guzzling pickup truck, the evening sun showing his orange skin in a gentle hue, his MAGA hat pulled down to shade his eyes, a Marlboro drooping from the corner of his mouth. "Chaqa needs to go," he drawled.

Chaqa, in his sleek, classic Camaro, the wind tousling his hair, the sunlight reflecting from the lenses of his wayfarer shades. "Come at me, bro", he quipped in return.

Only one man could be king of the dragstrip tonight. Who would it be?

Aviators and a Mustang, but otherwise pretty close.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE ND

More players might want to consider following the only confirmed town.

Other top scum candidates are peterlund, Flavius, and Kalel.

Just because Xorxes is confirmed town doesn't automatically make his reads perfect.

No, but it means they are not coming from scum.

[BunnyGo]

I’d prefer to roll the dice over him possibly dying or being converted tonight.

Wow. Can we vote chaqa?

Why, do you prefer the vig die without taking a 50% shot?

Yes. Their odds of dying are lower. They can shoot at night with more info. They can wait. They can claim and get protection. (I’m not advocating any or all of these. But it’s just off the top of my head better than shooting into a crowd) But shooting now means they likely won’t get another shot.

[e.m.c^42]

Alright. I'm 20 something pages behind and don't have the ability to catch up properly. Bot tells me I'm leading wagon, could someone tl;dr important points for me please?

[goldfinger0303]

##VOTE ND

More players might want to consider following the only confirmed town.

Other top scum candidates are peterlund, Flavius, and Kalel.

Why Kalel, who is a PR claim?

[bozotheclown]

A number of emc voters are questionable.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE ND

More players might want to consider following the only confirmed town.

Other top scum candidates are peterlund, Flavius, and Kalel.

Why Kalel, who is a PR claim?

I think he is most likely to be the extra PR.

[Jamiet99uk]

Alright. I'm 20 something pages behind and don't have the ability to catch up properly. Bot tells me I'm leading wagon, could someone tl;dr important points for me please?

Xorxes got the GM to confirm he is the captain.

We are lynching in the pool of VT claimants or people who won't claim.

Flavius is a nutcase who can't read.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE ND

More players might want to consider following the only confirmed town.

Other top scum candidates are peterlund, Flavius, and Kalel.

Why Kalel, who is a PR claim?

I think he is most likely to be the extra PR.

I would not advocate lynching him today, however.