MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[teacon7]

If we push a PR claimant, we force them to claim their purported role.
If we push a VT claimant, we may mislynch, but at least we reduce the scumpool where most of the scum are presumably hiding.

"Presumably" because peterlund is being anti-town in withholding important information, and Vecna and Superstition also are costing us info.

peterlund is acting consistent with his claims in the signup thread.
does flav or ND give us more information?

[damo666]

##vote xorxes

WHY?

[FlaviusAetius]

See??? So again Jamie where did you get that because right now it seems like your lying

where did jamie get what?

That bounty hunter has names cause that’s not what the bot said

[FlaviusAetius]

oh I guess the bot just copied it wrong

[FlaviusAetius]

##vote xorxes

WHY?

because he hasn’t caught up, hello?

[FlaviusAetius]

##vote xorxes

WHY?

because he hasn’t caught up, hello?

[xorxes]

No why are we claiming so please don’t tell me we are massclaiming it’s a BAD IDEA

The lynch should be between ND, peterlund, and you today. So if you're planning to claim PR better do it sooner than later (you don't need to specify which PR if that's how you want to go.)

I already said I’m at VT not a PR

Yep, that does not save you because there are too many VT claims, and we are lynching non-PR claimants today.

[worcej]

Finally.

Let’s go with ##vote bozo - I get this vibe you are hiding in plain sight right now.

[BunnyGo]

Where does it say that? That isn’t what it says in the role description on page one, why in the world would it be named a that’s ridiculous

It absolutely does say that in the role description on page one. You can't read very well.

Look here:

You are JUBAL EARLY, the BOUNTY HUNTER

During the day you must vote for a suspect.

<Name>, <Name> and <Name> are the players with bounties on them in this sector. If all targets are killed by lynch or night kill and you are not dead, you win the game. Each End of Night, news reaches the Town publicly that a payment has been made into the Bounty Hunter’s accounts for the death of any of your targets eliminated.

You win when your targets are eliminated, you are alive and no other faction has already won.

The word "NAME" is highlighted because you were somehow unable to read it.

Actually if you look at the bot it doesn’t say that at all let me show you

True. Very strange. Maybe < symbols get unread by bot.

[ND]

If super doesn't change votes he is a good candidate for newbies scum

[FlaviusAetius]

no vote CHAQA he did a whole bunch of sketchy things that did NOT make sense let me pull up my reasoning right koe

[xorxes]

Xorxes is just pissed at me because he probably feels like I forced this. And, yeah I did, but he should know that doing this retarded massclaim without a consensus and without verifying his role would have gotten pushback. He should have verified to start and waited for a consensus. The only person he should be pissed at is himself.

I'm not pissed at you at all. I would be pissed at you if I believed you were town, but since I believe you are scum I think you were playing well to your win condition.

[damo666]

Flavius is PROBABLY telling the truth wrt claim.

##vote Super for now.

[BunnyGo]

##vote xorxes

Catch up faster

[Kitsune]

##CALL GM

If reavers convert a member of the alliance, will town be able to know if/when that player flips? I guess the more general question is: when a reaver flips, do we learn original role too?

We do not. The Reaver player is aware of their original role, but their team mates and Town when a Reaver is lynched will not find out the original role.

[xorxes]

oh. heh. crosspost.

flav has now been upgraded to a fair *lynch* candidate.

Vecna's spot might be another good one. He might have seen the posting req's for reaver and realized it was going to be more involved than he had time for. That's a bit of proper metagaming, but i'd love to hear someone else's take on it. If we're rolling dice on a non-claimant list, this one at least means kitsune doesn't need to find a sub. I guess we don't get a lot of info from that lynch.

We can't lynch the Vecna slot without giving them a chance to claim PR first. That's what the massclaim is for, so we don't mislynch/shoot PRs.

[peterlund]

Finally.

Let’s go with ##vote bozo - I get this vibe you are hiding in plain sight right now.

I could go with Bozo aswell. Chaqa, Bozo and Tom are on prime list of lynches.

[goldfinger0303]

Xorxes - are you sure we should only be lynching amongst the unclaimed? Or should we expand to the VT claims as well?

[dargorygel]

@xorxes
You are right about Peter I was not voting for him because of his view on mass... But your reveal changes things somewhat

ND or Flav... Flav has posted SO much more that might be considered diverting. And his jubal early stuff feels off. Neither one has voted for a lit or been voted for.

But I'll go here for future interaction investigation.
##vote flav

[BunnyGo]

##CALL GM

If reavers convert a member of the alliance, will town be able to know if/when that player flips? I guess the more general question is: when a reaver flips, do we learn original role too?

We do not. The Reaver player is aware of their original role, but their team mates and Town when a Reaver is lynched will not find out the original role.

Well that’s some gǒushǐ. The scum team has two uses of a body cleaner?