MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

@BunnyGo - I don't know you. How much have you played before?

I played F2F for about 4 hours a week for several years about 25 years ago. This is my fourth forum game. It’s been an interesting learning experience. How about you @teacon?

I've played a bunch, mostly here. I took a step back a few years ago for time reasons, but still love the game.


...what allows you to play f2f for that much? School? Wow.

College - I played a lot of games with friends in dorms/libraries in college.

[worcej]

Players voting for uncced PR claimant:

ND
BunnyGo
peter

Are you the AI version of the bot now or something? Why point this out when it is readily available?

I agree with bozo it was worth pointing out. I will address those three votes in a bit.

I think it's just noise personally.

[worcej]

turns out I do not have time to devote to this game after all. We planned a last minute trip for the coming weeks so ill replace out.

Missed this post in my catch-up (thank you bot!), but that explains some lack of posts so far.

##unvote

[xorxes]

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Rest
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BunnyGo
damo
Flav
gold
Jamiet
Kalel
ND
peterlund
Superstition
Vecna
worcej

This is where most/all scum are currently hiding, in my opinion. There's at least one VT here, and at least five town PRs. Those PRs are making the job difficult for the Vig, by providing cover for the scum.

Jamiet said he would claim when six others had claimed, so hopefully he will be sorted soon. I suspect peterlund may very well be a PR as he implied, so my advice to the Vig is to take him out of the hit list.

Vecna screwed us over by burying any possible info on that slot for D1. Unfortunately that means we probably shouldn't shoot/lynch him today.

That would leave:

BunnyGo
damo
Flav
gold
Kalel
ND
Superstition
worcej

If I was the Vig, I would shoot one of those, ND being my top choice at the moment. I would be happy to lynch any of these as well, although hearing something from damo first would be nice, and I probably would give Superstition the benefit of the doubt for being new.

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote worcej

[xorxes]

So are you saying that Xorxes do not want a GM confirmation of his role, so that he may be recruited as Reaver? Doesn't seem really right to me...

No, it's exactly the opposite, I expect him to get a GM confirmation before EON1 so he can't be recruited.

It doesn't matter - if he reveals, the doctor can save him from recruitment. And if RP is halfway decent, they'd just avoid him anyways.

Doctor can't 100% save someone from recruitment, they only reduce it to 50% chance that the recruitment succeeds.

But I agree any half decent RP will avoid me. Thet should have avoided me even if I had not claimed, simply because I always die early, but with the claim, if they recruit me they insure that I will be lynched, as I would no longer have the +2 votes. And the roleblocker thing is completely irrelevant, obviously I won't be roleblocked for the day.

[xorxes]

You mean before EoD1, so that the double vote is visible D1. Otherwise he continues to be a recruit target.

You are right. EoN1 is ok, since we also expect the double vote to be visible day 2 unless he has not been recruited N1.

If he gets targetted by scum RB, then he *may* not get his vote increase on D2 and that could cause confusion and lead to people thinking he was Reapered.

Another good reason not to reveal before it becomes necessary. I will add it to my already long list of reasons.

[KalelChase]

You mean before EoD1, so that the double vote is visible D1. Otherwise he continues to be a recruit target.

You are right. EoN1 is ok, since we also expect the double vote to be visible day 2 unless he has not been recruited N1.

If he gets targetted by scum RB, then he *may* not get his vote increase on D2 and that could cause confusion and lead to people thinking he was Reapered.

This.

[xorxes]

So, to address the three votes on the unccd Captain:

peterlund: I think he may very well be town PR. He didn't claim it but he implied it. Ii is believable that he doesn't understand why he should claim. It is believable that he feels it is superimportant to force me to reveal right now. I'm townleaning him for now.

BunnyGo: The 10% number he pulled out of his rear orifice is concerning, given his purported love of probabilities. But let's take it at face value: he wants to lynch someone that in his estimation has a 10% chance of being scum. A random lynch would have 25% chance of hitting scum. So basically he is voting for one of his top townreads, since I doubt he would have a 90% confidence in many others like he claims to have in me for being town. Having said all that, Bunny is not what I consider one of the "rational" players, he often does things that make no sense to me. So only because of that my scumlean on him is weak rather than strong at this point.

ND: I consider ND a very good player behind the facade of idiocy that he enjoys putting up. The first explanation I came up with when he first voted for me was that he was doing some kind of reaction test to see who would bite. Unless he explains it that way, and gives his conclusions from the experiment, I strongly recommend that the Vig shoot him.

[damo666]

Sorry been busy with the new year.

Lynching or shooting me would be s mistake for town. I am a town PR.

Need to catch up.

[xorxes]

Sorry been busy with the new year.

Lynching or shooting me would be s mistake for town. I am a town PR.

Need to catch up.

Thank you, that will do for now.

[xorxes]

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Claimed PR
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xorx (Captain)
teac
darg
Tom Bombadil
rdrivera
damo

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Claimed VT
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chaq
emc
bozo
Tem

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Rest
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BunnyGo
Flav
gold
Jamiet
Kalel
ND
peterlund
Superstition
Vecna
worcej

[worcej]

Fuck it - forcing the issue now.

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Claimed PR
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xorx (Captain)
teac
darg
Tom Bombadil
rdrivera
damo
worcej

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Claimed VT
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chaq
emc
bozo
Tem

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Rest
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BunnyGo
Flav
gold
Jamiet
Kalel
ND
peterlund
Superstition
Vecna

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi everyone, I'm just recovering from my New Year's Eve hangover so I see I have a little catching up to do.

I promised I'd take part in the massclaim when at least six others had done so.

I am a town PR.

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL GM

Will Vecna be replaced before EoD?

[Jamiet99uk]

Updated for my own claim


Claimed PR
xorx (Captain)
teac
darg
Tom Bombadil
rdrivera
damo
worcej
Jamiet

Claimed VT
chaqa
emc
bozo
Temasek

Not claimed
BunnyGo
Flavius
goldfingle
Kalelchase
ND
peterlund
Superstition
Vecna (to be subbed)

[Jamiet99uk]

So there are 10 town PR if the Twins count as PRs, and 5 VTs including the backups.

So far 8 PR claims and 4 VT claims. This will soon reach the point where it would become useful. Now that we're this far, I urge others to claim.

[ND]

@Xorxes

Dude, you have the only role in the game that can be verified by the GM and you want people to claim their roles without doing it yourself (you can verify)

Fuck that. You need to be voted by everyone until you verify. At which point I'll claim.

Again, I recommend to EVERYONE not to go along with Xorxes until he verifies his role.

And, yeah if the VIG shoots me so be it. You will be lynched most likely in that event. So, all that forces is a zero sum.

[ND]

Xorxes is literally flushing PRs out and no one cares. Jesus Christ.

[ND]

Then he wants the vig to shoot the one guy literally calling him out for his scam.

If you don't see how all of that is scum motivated then please never play this game again.