MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[ND]

It is literally impossible for him to confirm his role guys

[ND]

What a fucking con man

[xorxes]

I am going to follow what goldfinger just advised to ensure too much information is not revealed yet.

Weren't you in favor of the massclaim?

##vote Kalel

Rivera finally says something sensible.

ND is my top suggestion for the Vig shot atm, but goldie is a close second.

Good let them shoot me hopefully after they lynch your ass

The shot comes before the lynch.

[ND]

I'm sure as hell not telling you my role until you verify yours

[ND]

Everyone else should do the same, DO NOT tell him your role he is flushing prs out

[goldfinger0303]

Good let them shoot me hopefully after they lynch your ass

The shot comes before the lynch.

Xorxes....man you're making me wonder if you *are* scum.

Why on earth would the Vig not wait until after the lynch? Vig can shoot at any time during the night. Why not wait until there's more information from the lynch?

[xorxes]

I'm sure as hell not telling you my role until you verify yours

It's not me you need to tell if you are PR, it's the Vig and the Cop. They are the two who need that info now.

[Temasek22]

Just woke up. I find myself siding with gold and ND on this.

@xorx

What's your rationale in not getting the GM to confirm your role if you're actually the captain, there's no Downside.

Will claim once xorx is confirmed.

My reveal has zero relevance to the claims. People who make it contingent on that are looking for excuses.

How are they? Fwiw you could be scum flushing out everyone's roles. A little assurance does no harm.

[xorxes]

Good let them shoot me hopefully after they lynch your ass

The shot comes before the lynch.

Xorxes....man you're making me wonder if you *are* scum.

Why on earth would the Vig not wait until after the lynch? Vig can shoot at any time during the night. Why not wait until there's more information from the lynch?

It should be obvious. If they hit scum they get a second shot. They could die N1 so they should not waste a phase.

[xorxes]

Just woke up. I find myself siding with gold and ND on this.

@xorx

What's your rationale in not getting the GM to confirm your role if you're actually the captain, there's no Downside.

Will claim once xorx is confirmed.

My reveal has zero relevance to the claims. People who make it contingent on that are looking for excuses.

How are they? Fwiw you could be scum flushing out everyone's roles. A little assurance does no harm.

We are not asking for specific roles atm, just PR or VT.

[ND]

I'm not saying shit until you verify your role Xork

[worcej]

I am going to follow what goldfinger just advised to ensure too much information is not revealed yet.

Weren't you in favor of the massclaim?

##vote Kalel

Rivera finally says something sensible.

ND is my top suggestion for the Vig shot atm, but goldie is a close second.

I am, but if we have people not participating then why disclose more information to weaken our position further.

I also think there is some sense in not following you until you do the reveal. There have been times when people have faked a PR and did not get a counter claim in the past from the actual PR.

[e.m.c^42]

@rdrivera - I'm aware the phases are 48 hours long. Hence why its better to put pressure on the people that are here now, not the ones that will show up a few hours before phase end. We won't get any information from leaving our votes parked on them.

And again, we really need more people to speak up on the massclaim. Anything less than 10 PR claims is going to be next to worthless for us, yet invaluable for the scum. Getting a dozen people to claim PR or not PR helps scum because they can hide amongst the PR claims and not get caught. This is an everything or nothing push.

So I'm going to be scrutinizing the people who are currently pushing the mass claim who are *not* xorxes. I still do believe xorxes is town, and have good town reads on teacon and ND as well. emc is looking very suspect though. He has posted the third most out of anyone, but I just looked through each of those posts and the vast, vast majority of them are garbage. He has maybe 3 posts where he's actually considering something seriously, and just plugged a vote onto the silent Vecna. Moreover, he went from being skeptical about the massclaim to a full-blown supporter of it, and started organizing the chart to push people into thinking this was an already agreed-upon thing that we are doing.

And then there's this.

I gotta type up something useful, I feel very spammy lol

I don't like it. ##VOTE EMC

dw goldie I'll make the elaboration walls once the new year burning is over (skimming on phone atm)

but my general posts are shit until you get a concussion. then I look like god shitting purple mayonnaise, I tell ya

[BunnyGo]

@Chaqa - right now, who are your top three scum targets. Gotta have that much if you want the Money Hall solution

Nonononononono. STOP INTIMIDATING PEOPLE WITH MATH YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND WELL ENOUGH TO MAKE IT SEEM SIMPLE AND INTUITIVE!!

[goldfinger0303]

The shot comes before the lynch.

Xorxes....man you're making me wonder if you *are* scum.

Why on earth would the Vig not wait until after the lynch? Vig can shoot at any time during the night. Why not wait until there's more information from the lynch?

It should be obvious. If they hit scum they get a second shot. They could die N1 so they should not waste a phase.

Xorxes, yes they could die N1, but they would die at the *end* of N1. They can take the shot any time they want during the night and still get their second shot. Asking for the shot before the lynch is super poor play.

[worcej]

Just woke up. I find myself siding with gold and ND on this.

@xorx

What's your rationale in not getting the GM to confirm your role if you're actually the captain, there's no Downside.

Will claim once xorx is confirmed.

My reveal has zero relevance to the claims. People who make it contingent on that are looking for excuses.

Likewise, what is the danger in you revealing your claim now? You can prove it and alleviate any possible concerns, yet choose not to?

[worcej]

*verify instead of reveal.

[Temasek22]

I am going to follow what goldfinger just advised to ensure too much information is not revealed yet.

Weren't you in favor of the massclaim?

##vote Kalel

Rivera finally says something sensible.

ND is my top suggestion for the Vig shot atm, but goldie is a close second.

I am, but if we have people not participating then why disclose more information to weaken our position further.

I also think there is some sense in not following you until you do the reveal. There have been times when people have faked a PR and did not get a counter claim in the past from the actual PR.

If the actual captain is out there, do you think it is in his best interests to claim?

[goldfinger0303]

dw goldie I'll make the elaboration walls once the new year burning is over (skimming on phone atm)

but my general posts are shit until you get a concussion. then I look like god shitting purple mayonnaise, I tell ya

The imagery there was unnecessary, I tell ya

[BunnyGo]

I generally have a piss poor recollection of past games, but I would tend to agree that so far Jamiet seems more like how I recall him as scum than as town.

ND is an interesting case. His entire demeanor is different, and then he disappeared. Very suspicious.

Tom's absence is not unusual. Vecna and Bozo's absences are.

Peter and teacon seem much how I remember. Good feelings on both.

Bunny and Flavius are suspiciously quiet.

I’m only quiet if you’re not reading my posts.

I also said I’d be out of town until EOD1 and not very active.