MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

Well, at this point I am not a big fan of the massclaim. I don't like massclaims in general (at least a D1 massclaim) as it just breaks the game, and in this case I am not even sure it advances town wincon.

Isn't that contradictory? How can it break the game and not advance town's wincon at the same time? The only reason massclaims can "break the game" is that they would make it too easy to win. How else could a masclaim break the game?

[peterlund]

What makes you say this, @peter? Why "intriguing?"

Lot's of good players mixed with a lot of "unknowns" to me, since I have not played them yet. Teacon, Chaqa and Goldie returning is nice!

emc, flav - overly verbose according to what I remember.
chaqa - was as I remember a very low poster. Now he is topping posting stats?
Goldie - don't remember his play in detail but he was solid.
Temasek, Kalel - not played with these guys but the little I have read from the side of previous games they look good too.
superstition - a new unknown to everyone.

[Superstition]

Who would you recruit if you were?

You know me well enough that I'm near guaranteed to want to go for Vecna at some point lol

but not going to give rPrime any ideas, for all we know they're new or out-of-date, and clueless towards good recruits ;p

Speaking of new and clueless.... welcome to the game Superstition.

I waited until my 4th game to read this; https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3 ... ?f=4&t=272

Don't make the same mistake.

I hate reading... I'll try to fit it in.

[xorxes]

Ok, I convinced myself, let's get this thing rolling.

I am the CAPTAIN.

I may ask the GM to reveal me before EOD, or maybe I will wait until the night. I don't expect to be counterclaimed, although if someone wants to, I will be delighted, so the hero can shoot you.

As I said, I don't expect to be recruited, because if I am recruited I lose the extra votes and so I'm immediately exposed. So it's bad for me and bad for Reaver team.

I may be NKd, but then again, there are a few protectives roles out there, so I might survive for a little while.

I strongly urge the HERO to shoot someone today. Anyone who does not claim PR is fair game. I will give my suggestions before EOD. Don't shoot people who claim PR obviously. Also, don't shoot too soon, wait as much as possible so everyone has a chance to claim, but also give the Reader enough time to choose their target so they don't waste it on the same one you are shooting. So maybe two-three hours before EOD.

READER should definitely read someone during the day, so they can't be roleblocked. Again, choose someone who does not claim PR. If you can let us know that you will be here for EOD so you can choose your target all the better.

[xorxes]

You know me well enough that I'm near guaranteed to want to go for Vecna at some point lol

but not going to give rPrime any ideas, for all we know they're new or out-of-date, and clueless towards good recruits ;p

Speaking of new and clueless.... welcome to the game Superstition.

I waited until my 4th game to read this; https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3 ... ?f=4&t=272

Don't make the same mistake.

I hate reading... I'll try to fit it in.

Don't waste time reading all that. Much better if you spend that time participating in the game and trying to solve it.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok Xorxes claims Captain.

Chaqa, what's your role?

[xorxes]

I will park on ##VOTE rdrivera for now, just because he made some uncharacteristically bad arguments and because I always scumread him anyway, and sometimes I'm right.

[teacon7]

What do you think is xorxes posting restrictions that he has to be following right now?

I'm not sure yet, but this does give me an idea of how we can flush out the Reaver. We could come up with a series of five posts that everyone has to copy-paste, and use them to see who gives pushback to the idea because perhaps we can make posts that would break their posting rules.

Alternatively, we can look for oddities in posting compared to people's usual posting methods.

Makes it less effective when you outright say to do it...

Yeah but doesn't a press restriction mean they can't help it?

[Superstition]

Speaking of new and clueless.... welcome to the game Superstition.

I waited until my 4th game to read this; https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3 ... ?f=4&t=272

Don't make the same mistake.

I hate reading... I'll try to fit it in.

Don't waste time reading all that. Much better if you spend that time participating in the game and trying to solve it.

Yeah I've played many times in person. Its about how well you lie and can read body language. But I'm used to two roles only so this is very complex comparatively and the terms a little harder to follow and retain. The whole forum thing seems odd for this game. At least in person, silent players can still be read. I'll do my best.

[teacon7]

TEACON? HE'S BACK?
oh god oh lord, time to take him down

Nice to see you too Flav.

[peterlund]

Temasek, Kalel - not played with these guys but the little I have read from the side of previous games they look good too.

And Bunny. I have not played him either.

[Jamiet99uk]

My guesses on the Reavers posting restrictions are that the purpose of the restrictions are to not let the previous reaver(s) know what original role and alignment the recruits had before they were converted to reavers.
They will probably have a reaver QT. Anyhow the Reavers have a NK every night until the game ends. (2 first will be converted)

Is this an attempt at an "I'm not a Reaver" slip?

Kitsune very specifically said that the Reavers do not get a QT.

[xorxes]

My guesses on the Reavers posting restrictions are that the purpose of the restrictions are to not let the previous reaver(s) know what original role and alignment the recruits had before they were converted to reavers.
They will probably have a reaver QT. Anyhow the Reavers have a NK every night until the game ends. (2 first will be converted)

Is this an attempt at an "I'm not a Reaver" slip?

Kitsune very specifically said that the Reavers do not get a QT.

Could be, but seems genuine.

People speculating on Reaver posting restrictions give me scummy vibes though. Like Mafia trying to drive town into wild goose chases.

So Jamiet, you're VT then?

[Chaqa]

This breaks the game, and I'm against it, dont do it

Breaks the game how? Maybe we found our reaver.

Reaver would probably be one of the biggest pusher for a massclaim....

This post was about the pre-written messages, not mass claim. Are you actually reading the thread, Rivera. Or just trying to look like you are participating?

+1 scum Rivera

[Chaqa]

Ok, I convinced myself, let's get this thing rolling.

I am the CAPTAIN.

I may ask the GM to reveal me before EOD, or maybe I will wait until the night. I don't expect to be counterclaimed, although if someone wants to, I will be delighted, so the hero can shoot you.

As I said, I don't expect to be recruited, because if I am recruited I lose the extra votes and so I'm immediately exposed. So it's bad for me and bad for Reaver team.

I may be NKd, but then again, there are a few protectives roles out there, so I might survive for a little while.

I strongly urge the HERO to shoot someone today. Anyone who does not claim PR is fair game. I will give my suggestions before EOD. Don't shoot people who claim PR obviously. Also, don't shoot too soon, wait as much as possible so everyone has a chance to claim, but also give the Reader enough time to choose their target so they don't waste it on the same one you are shooting. So maybe two-three hours before EOD.

READER should definitely read someone during the day, so they can't be roleblocked. Again, choose someone who does not claim PR. If you can let us know that you will be here for EOD so you can choose your target all the better.

Look at him - he’s the captain now.

Are we doing this then, xorxes?

[Chaqa]

I will park on ##VOTE rdrivera for now, just because he made some uncharacteristically bad arguments and because I always scumread him anyway, and sometimes I'm right.

I can get behind this. 10/10 would sheep

[peterlund]

My guesses on the Reavers posting restrictions are that the purpose of the restrictions are to not let the previous reaver(s) know what original role and alignment the recruits had before they were converted to reavers.
They will probably have a reaver QT. Anyhow the Reavers have a NK every night until the game ends. (2 first will be converted)

Is this an attempt at an "I'm not a Reaver" slip?

Kitsune very specifically said that the Reavers do not get a QT.

You seem to overestimate me. I am not good enough to fake slips and I have as far as I remember never done that either.

I seem to have missed that "do not get a QT". I guess that was in the signup thread?

Great anyhow. Then instead, maybe the Prime Reaver gets to PM (via GM) the recruited Reavers, but I still think the purpose is the same. Not letting the Reavers know about eachothers original alignment and role.

[teacon7]

Yeah I've played many times in person. Its about how well you lie and can read body language. But I'm used to two roles only so this is very complex comparatively and the terms a little harder to follow and retain. The whole forum thing seems odd for this game. At least in person, silent players can still be read. I'll do my best.

Welcome to the game.

Forum games have posting requirements, which theoretically force players to give *something* that can be read.
Forum format is nice because there are lots of crazy mechanics to spice up the game.

If you don't mind my asking, how'd you find the game? You sort of signed up out of nowhere. Do you know someone else who plays?

[damo666]

Short on time. Anything important thus far?

[Chaqa]

Yeah I've played many times in person. Its about how well you lie and can read body language. But I'm used to two roles only so this is very complex comparatively and the terms a little harder to follow and retain. The whole forum thing seems odd for this game. At least in person, silent players can still be read. I'll do my best.

Welcome to the game.

Forum games have posting requirements, which theoretically force players to give *something* that can be read.
Forum format is nice because there are lots of crazy mechanics to spice up the game.

If you don't mind my asking, how'd you find the game? You sort of signed up out of nowhere. Do you know someone else who plays?

They also have voting requirements, but that doesn’t stop EMC.