MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

You beat me on this.

Yet you didn't vote?

Why people expect I vote emc? Jamiet already voted as a pressure on him to vote early (and avoid being modkilled at least). It was page 1 and I don't have any idea about emc alignment yet, why turn him a real wagon?

##vote Worcej for now.

Why vote for me over xorxes who also questioned you for the exact same thing? Or did you not read that far before doing this?

[Chaqa]

What do you think is xorxes posting restrictions that he has to be following right now?

I'm not sure yet, but this does give me an idea of how we can flush out the Reaver. We could come up with a series of five posts that everyone has to copy-paste, and use them to see who gives pushback to the idea because perhaps we can make posts that would break their posting rules.

Alternatively, we can look for oddities in posting compared to people's usual posting methods.

Makes it less effective when you outright say to do it...

I'm sure any self-respecting player would already have worked out they need to post as normal as possible as they can.

[worcej]

The Reavers are indeed a bit of a detriment to the entire mass-claim idea, but wouldn't it be better to make the claims before Reaver-ing, so that we:
1. have a chance for a vigilante to kill Reaver-Prime
2. have a chance for a doc save or commute save of some sort
3. have a chance for teams 1 & 2 to hit the same target

I'd say all are unlikely, but recent games have shown how it's really a crapshoot and lots of random stuff can happen.

I agree with all of what you listed - these are indeed pro's for us, but there is downside in a massclaim because it does help RP and BH.

How does it help the BH?

I still haven't read the actual role PMs... one moment.

[worcej]

##Call GM: For the BH, is it players or roles (that have names) that are the targets?

I get what you are asking me now Chaqa. If it is just players, then massclaim away. If it is roles, then we need to be weary.

[Kitsune]

##Call GM: For the BH, is it players or roles (that have names) that are the targets?

I get what you are asking me now Chaqa. If it is just players, then massclaim away. If it is roles, then we need to be weary.

The BH is provided with a list of player names which are his or her targets.

[worcej]

##Call GM: For the BH, is it players or roles (that have names) that are the targets?

I get what you are asking me now Chaqa. If it is just players, then massclaim away. If it is roles, then we need to be weary.

The BH is provided with a list of player names which are his or her targets.

Then I am confused how this game is mass-claim proof.

[Chaqa]

##Call GM: For the BH, is it players or roles (that have names) that are the targets?

I get what you are asking me now Chaqa. If it is just players, then massclaim away. If it is roles, then we need to be weary.

The BH is provided with a list of player names which are his or her targets.

Then I am confused how this game is mass-claim proof.

My best guess is the Reavers are meant to counteract it, but... I'm a bit uncertain if it's truly going to be that hard to figure them out.

[worcej]

The BH is provided with a list of player names which are his or her targets.

Then I am confused how this game is mass-claim proof.

My best guess is the Reavers are meant to counteract it, but... I'm a bit uncertain if it's truly going to be that hard to figure them out.

Yeah, that's where I am at. I interpreted that the BH has role targets, which they apparently do not.

Mass-claiming makes the most sense. M1, BH, and RP are going to be in a pool of 8 players most likely and narrows down this game a lot for us.

[Chaqa]

Then I am confused how this game is mass-claim proof.

My best guess is the Reavers are meant to counteract it, but... I'm a bit uncertain if it's truly going to be that hard to figure them out.

Yeah, that's where I am at. I interpreted that the BH has role targets, which they apparently do not.

Mass-claiming makes the most sense. M1, BH, and RP are going to be in a pool of 8 players most likely and narrows down this game a lot for us.

I'm in agreement from a logical perspective. I just don't want it to feel like we "ruined" Kit's setup...

[e.m.c^42]

hmm I actually don't have much against mass claim, to be fair

Considering how shit PRs as a whole played last game (not in the least due to me, hah) mass claim will not do as much harm as it may be thought to

[e.m.c^42]

Main thing is rPrime, though

Like, c'mon - knowing what roles to nullify gives them a lot of power, especially if they're not a stupid player and manage to choose carefully around the other mafia team.

[Chaqa]

Update this as we go, I suppose.

Pro-massclaim:
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Chaqa
e.m.c.
worcej
xorxes

Anti-massclaim:
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Undecided/No opinion voiced:
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Bozo
BunnyGo
Damo666
dargo
FlaviusAetius
goldfinger0303
Jamie
Kalel
ND
PeterL
Rdrivera
Superstition
Teacon7
Temasek22
Tom Bombadil
Vecna

[e.m.c^42]

Lol, now it looks as if I'm an idiot awkwardly fufilling some sort of post "!'s" requirement

...or having to say "lol" a lot. idk if we'll be able to figure out the press requirement for a while yet.

It's not worth postulating over what posting conditions are - there's simply too much that's possible, and it's easy to spin bullshit to pin on people, not to mention baiting. This is more of something to puzzle over after we flip a Reaver - and even then it's unreliable lol

[KalelChase]

Hey, we made it to page 2.

Is joke phase a real thing? Or is that just an excuse players use to say stupid stuff?

Depends, are you a comedian?

I am not.

[KalelChase]

Hey, we made it to page 2.

Is joke phase a real thing? Or is that just an excuse players use to say stupid stuff?

When do you say your stupid things?

Pretty much constantly.

[KalelChase]

I wonder if RP is required to be the most friendly and polite person as their posing requirements...

That would be wayyy too broad I guess. I think realistically the requirement would probs be usage of certain words or post counts or something like that.

My quicklist for things it could be:
- No swearing
- Punctuation rules
- Misspellings
- # of words
- No contractions

etc.

Not sure if it breaks rules to post links to outside sources, but I went to the Reaver Wikipedia page and forgot how nasty they are. Their communications are actually howls and shrieks... I assume those are not the restrictions.

[BunnyGo]

Oho. In which case one has to wonder, am I reaver prime?

Who would you recruit if you were?

I like this line of thoughts.

If I was RP, I would recruit damo.

Finally! I've been reading to catch up and this...THIS is the first post that wasn't either vacuous or something I could have predicted would be posted prior to game start. Jeses...that was a lot of nothing.

OK, I'm still out of town visiting family and plans are in flux depending on kids. I'm leaving either after festivities tomorrow (if kids don't melt down) or before (if they do). So may not be around much until late on the 1st.

I would recruit either: a) my top scum read or b) kalel

[BunnyGo]

Oh, and before I read more: screw you emc for last game. I got killed by scum for getting too close to them and you can't even stick around and get policy killed? ##VOTE EMC.

I trusted you. I had faith you could close. I'm leaving this vote in if I can't find the time to catch up by EOD.

You see EMC? I vote...just in case I won't be able to later. It's a way I don't get modkilled. Even voting no lynch is better man...

[KalelChase]

Who would you recruit if you were?

I like this line of thoughts.

If I was RP, I would recruit damo.

Finally! I've been reading to catch up and this...THIS is the first post that wasn't either vacuous or something I could have predicted would be posted prior to game start. Jeses...that was a lot of nothing.

OK, I'm still out of town visiting family and plans are in flux depending on kids. I'm leaving either after festivities tomorrow (if kids don't melt down) or before (if they do). So may not be around much until late on the 1st.

I would recruit either: a) my top scum read or b) kalel

Bunny's back. Can I ask why call me out by name? And this implies that I'm not your top scum read?

[bozotheclown]

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