MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

The only alternative route I see is to actually lynch in the female VT's here.

If we lynch Bozo, and he flips scum, they can just shoot Purple. Then tomorrow we have another lylo.

If we lynch in the female VT's and hit scum, they have to either:
-risk shooting RHK (which gives us an extra mislynch if he survives)
-Shoot in the female VT's which gives us a lot of extra information because it reduces our lynchpool
-shoot in the male VT's which gives us a guaranteed scum lynch tomorrow
-No kill, which gives us an extra mislynch as well

[bozotheclown]

Im ok with lynching yavu, and Im going to ignore the post you just made, its against the spirit of the rules, as you said.
Make an argument with other things why you are a Male VT, and NOT purplecow

Can you make an argument why purplecow is a male VT and I am not? No one voting for me has explained to me why they think I am scum. Even purplecow is not trying to convince anyone I am not town, I believe he is letting his teammates lead the push instead.

[Vecna]

How are you enjoying this wagon, Bozo?

[FlaviusAetius]

The only alternative route I see is to actually lynch in the female VT's here.

If we lynch Bozo, and he flips scum, they can just shoot Purple. Then tomorrow we have another lylo.

If we lynch in the female VT's and hit scum, they have to either:
-risk shooting RHK (which gives us an extra mislynch if he survives)
-Shoot in the female VT's which gives us a lot of extra information because it reduces our lynchpool
-shoot in the male VT's which gives us a guaranteed scum lynch tomorrow
-No kill, which gives us an extra mislynch as well

The problem is finding the female

[FlaviusAetius]

Im ok with lynching yavu, and Im going to ignore the post you just made, its against the spirit of the rules, as you said.
Make an argument with other things why you are a Male VT, and NOT purplecow

Can you make an argument why purplecow is a male VT and I am not? No one voting for me has explained to me why they think I am scum. Even purplecow is not trying to convince anyone I am not town, I believe he is letting his teammates lead the push instead.

Same argument at Cmdr,
Tom thought purple is town, after his interaction with him
And you are the alternative to purple
This isn’t a very complicated lynch, and the only evidence you presented is something you were totally fine with when he said it but then days later when it’s you versus him you have a all of a sudden big problem with it

[FlaviusAetius]

I believe the scum team is;
Bozo, Yavu and Temasek

[FlaviusAetius]

Could be Vecna too... still not too sure about the third mafia member

[Vecna]

The only alternative route I see is to actually lynch in the female VT's here.

If we lynch Bozo, and he flips scum, they can just shoot Purple. Then tomorrow we have another lylo.

If we lynch in the female VT's and hit scum, they have to either:
-risk shooting RHK (which gives us an extra mislynch if he survives)
-Shoot in the female VT's which gives us a lot of extra information because it reduces our lynchpool
-shoot in the male VT's which gives us a guaranteed scum lynch tomorrow
-No kill, which gives us an extra mislynch as well

The problem is finding the female

Feels very much like a >66% chance.

And if were gonna fuck that up, it doesnt really matter if we do it today or tomorrow.

[Vecna]

Could be Vecna too... still not too sure about the third mafia member

Why not Kalel?

[FlaviusAetius]

The only alternative route I see is to actually lynch in the female VT's here.

If we lynch Bozo, and he flips scum, they can just shoot Purple. Then tomorrow we have another lylo.

If we lynch in the female VT's and hit scum, they have to either:
-risk shooting RHK (which gives us an extra mislynch if he survives)
-Shoot in the female VT's which gives us a lot of extra information because it reduces our lynchpool
-shoot in the male VT's which gives us a guaranteed scum lynch tomorrow
-No kill, which gives us an extra mislynch as well

The problem is finding the female

Feels very much like a >66% chance.

And if were gonna fuck that up, it doesnt really matter if we do it today or tomorrow.

RHK might still have a travel ticket left

[FlaviusAetius]

Could be Vecna too... still not too sure about the third mafia member

Why not Kalel?

Yea Im not sure about him either

[Vecna]

The problem is finding the female

Feels very much like a >66% chance.

And if were gonna fuck that up, it doesnt really matter if we do it today or tomorrow.

RHK might still have a travel ticket left

Doesnt matter though. As soon as we mislynch they just kill a VT instead of RHK and win on the spot

[bozotheclown]

Im ok with lynching yavu, and Im going to ignore the post you just made, its against the spirit of the rules, as you said.
Make an argument with other things why you are a Male VT, and NOT purplecow

Can you make an argument why purplecow is a male VT and I am not? No one voting for me has explained to me why they think I am scum. Even purplecow is not trying to convince anyone I am not town, I believe he is letting his teammates lead the push instead.

Same argument at Cmdr,
Tom thought purple is town, after his interaction with him
And you are the alternative to purple
This isn’t a very complicated lynch, and the only evidence you presented is something you were totally fine with when he said it but then days later when it’s you versus him you have a all of a sudden big problem with it

Tom thought purplecow's reaction was OK, but his read was not exactly strong:

So to get ahead of any ideas of mass claim....


I didn’t scan purple. It’s our job now to figure out the reactions. Three people knew I was lying because I was roleblocked. For what it’s worth, I got a towny reaction from purple from this. The sketchiest reaction is from DemonRHK who looks to be either coaching scumbuddies by saying “why weren’t you roleblocked” or just making a really bad comment as town.

By the way, his next post was this:

##vote Flavius

So, Tom may have thought purplecow was town, but he knew I was town, and he suspected you were not town. You are selectively choosing Tom's reads to justify your vote.

Other than confessing, there was nothing purplecow could have done to give away his alignment. I did not think purplecow's reaction was alignment indicative at the time, but his self vote was one thing I questioned when comparing CmdrLikely and purplecow. Now, looking back knowing purplecow is scum, I can see that his trying to suggest Tom was scum indicated he believed Tom could have had a guilty scan on him, where a town would have realized it was just a reaction test, because there was no reason to doubt that Tom was the detective.

[bozotheclown]

How are you enjoying this wagon, Bozo?

I am tired of getting mislynched at mylo or lylo. I expected you to realize what happened N4. Are you going to move your vote, or are you one of purplecow's partners?

[bozotheclown]

Apparently town is MIA and letting scum control the day when it is mylo.

[bozotheclown]

The only alternative route I see is to actually lynch in the female VT's here.

If we lynch Bozo, and he flips scum, they can just shoot Purple. Then tomorrow we have another lylo.

If we lynch in the female VT's and hit scum, they have to either:
-risk shooting RHK (which gives us an extra mislynch if he survives)
-Shoot in the female VT's which gives us a lot of extra information because it reduces our lynchpool
-shoot in the male VT's which gives us a guaranteed scum lynch tomorrow
-No kill, which gives us an extra mislynch as well

The problem is finding the female

If you are really a female VT, you know there are 2 scum in the other 4 female VT claims, a 50/50 chance, the same as in the male VTs. Is "purplecow is town because he did not confess when Tom claimed a guilty scan" your strongest read?

[bozotheclown]

I believe the scum team is;
Bozo, Yavu and Temasek

What are your reasons? Does your assumption that I am scum make you think yavuzovic and Temasek are scum?

[bozotheclown]

Could be Vecna too... still not too sure about the third mafia member

Why not Kalel?

Yea Im not sure about him either

So you have listed everyone except purplecow and DemonRHK as your scum suspects.

[purplecow]

Tom 'knew' you were town bozo? Where did Tom say that?

[bozotheclown]

I want to point out these Temasek posts from D7 again:

Cmdr seemed pretty towny to me before this, but now I'm having my doubts on him. If he flips town smh it's probs bozo. And I'll just throw in a Kalel scumread here, something seems off him this game.

Regardless ##vote cmdr

I think bozo is just as likely to be scum as Cmdr, purple looks fairly towny. I'll keep my vote on Cmdr tho

This is a classic scum technique of setting up the next lynch. He keeps hinting that I am scum while still voting for CmdrLikely. If he was town and scum reading CmdrLikely, he would think purplecow and I were town. If he was town and thought I was scum and not CmdrLikely, he would have been voting for me.