MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

under bozo's scenario if everything goes perfect, we are in LYLO TWICE

I am not sure what you mean by that, but if we lynch the last Moriarty today, and "everything goes perfect", meaning no town NKs, we will win easily.

[FlaviusAetius]

I told you exactly why mafia are incentivized to do so. we arent going to prevent a jack win anymore, they have too. that means they can either let jack win, or have a chance at winning.
in your scenario you flip it with the honus being on us

Even if that was our best chance of winning, we would have to differentiate between the remaining mafia and the SK and not lynch the SK. If the mafia think they know who the SK is, they could just try to get him lynched.

good point, but we already know who we are killing, no? yavu or bionic

also in my scenario we still have two town clears, and btw in your scenario that is truee too, but hyde has to die at one point, no? are we going to indefinitely find excuse snot too?

[FlaviusAetius]

mafia Team B will be focused on trying to eliminate jack with their kill, and tom will be RBed as per usual

Again, here is the worse case if we lynch ND today:

D5: 9-3-1-1, lynch Jekyll
N5: 2 town NKed
D6: 6-3-1-1, lynch team 1 mafia
N6: 2 town NKed
D7: 4-3-1, lynch SK
N7: 1 town NKed
D8: 3-3
town loses

If we do not lynch the SK, as you say, it does not get any better.

Do you really think our best chance to win is to count on the SK and mafia targeting each other?

If we kill yavu or Bionic today and we assume the one we kill is moriarty, not town(aka the 'best case' scenario)

D5: 9-3-1, lynch last moriarty[NOT CERTAIN]
N5: 7-3-1, 2 town die(tom dies, likely)
D6: 7-3-1, we lynch mafia team B[NT CERTAIN]
N6: 5-2-1, 2 town die
D7: 5-2-1, we lynch SK?[NOT CERTAIN]
N7: 4-2-0, 1 town dies
D8: 3-2-0, LYLO [NOT CERTAIN]

If we kill Jekyll today

D5: 8-3-1-1, jekyll dies
N5: 8-2-0-1,(100% possible jack and a mafia member dies)
N5: 6-3-1-1,(not at all likely)
N5: 7-2-1-1,(possible)
N5: 7-3-0-1(possible jack dies, and not mafia)

bump, look at this bozo

[ND]

##VOTE BIONIC

Got it. Well, Bionic is a decent choice. But at the same time we need to put people like Cmdr, Purple, Bionic, etc up to win this.

[Jamiet99uk]

Wow really behind how much longer do we have this phase ##call gm

GM NOTE

10 minutes remain.

[bozotheclown]

Wow really behind how much longer do we have this phase ##call gm

12 mintues, we are debating whether to kill you or not

Yes, you did say you support lynching yourself. Do you still believe that is the best option today?

[FlaviusAetius]

sighhhh, ##vote yavu another failed push

[FlaviusAetius]

well have successful in the beginning i did what yavu to die

[ND]

I guess

[ND]

but town should be voting for Bionic not Yav.

or Cmdr, or PurpleCow, or Darg.

[bozotheclown]

Again, here is the worse case if we lynch ND today:

D5: 9-3-1-1, lynch Jekyll
N5: 2 town NKed
D6: 6-3-1-1, lynch team 1 mafia
N6: 2 town NKed
D7: 4-3-1, lynch SK
N7: 1 town NKed
D8: 3-3
town loses

If we do not lynch the SK, as you say, it does not get any better.

Do you really think our best chance to win is to count on the SK and mafia targeting each other?

If we kill yavu or Bionic today and we assume the one we kill is moriarty, not town(aka the 'best case' scenario)

D5: 9-3-1, lynch last moriarty[NOT CERTAIN]
N5: 7-3-1, 2 town die(tom dies, likely)
D6: 7-3-1, we lynch mafia team B[NT CERTAIN]
N6: 5-2-1, 2 town die
D7: 5-2-1, we lynch SK?[NOT CERTAIN]
N7: 4-2-0, 1 town dies
D8: 3-2-0, LYLO [NOT CERTAIN]

If we kill Jekyll today

D5: 8-3-1-1, jekyll dies
N5: 8-2-0-1,(100% possible jack and a mafia member dies)
N5: 6-3-1-1,(not at all likely)
N5: 7-2-1-1,(possible)
N5: 7-3-0-1(possible jack dies, and not mafia)

bump, look at this bozo

Yes, but having 2 town NKs tonight would not be everything going perfectly. You assume if we lynch Jekyll there will be no town NKs, but if we lynch the last Moriarty, there will be 2 town NKs.

[bozotheclown]

5 minutes and no emc.

[Temasek22]

I think Bionic is more likely to be last moriathy than yavu, but whatever

[Jamiet99uk]

YAVUZOVIC is set to be lynched.

EMC must vote.

5 minutes remain.

[Vecna]

##vote bionic mole

[purplecow]

Okay ND I'll follow you then.
##Vote Bio

[Temasek22]

Emc you there?

[ND]

Anyway, it looks like this is headed towards another failure. I don't think Yav is scum.

[ND]

Cool, that's good thanks peeps.

[bozotheclown]

BionicMole is up by one vote.