MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[FlaviusAetius]

if we leave ND alive, you give the mafia an extra kill, a kill to kill Tom or ND.
Do you want that?

[FlaviusAetius]

If you kill ND, you leave mafia no choice but to hunt for Jack. So far they've never had a single reason to do so, now they do.

[FlaviusAetius]

and regardless of what happens, yavu dies tonight. so again why do their work for them?

[FlaviusAetius]

cmdrlikely, bozo, and purplecow
please vote for ND, if you arent doing so, you make me question whether your really town or not

[bozotheclown]

purple, bozo doesnt even think we should kill yavu tonight, do you understand how mentally deranged bozo has to be to do that?
bozo even wanted to kill computer_genius because he was AFK on Day 1!!
ND must die.

I think BionicMole is the last Moriarty mafia, not yavuzovic. yavuzovic may be the SK, or team 2 mafia. Do you still think yavuzovic is the last Moriarty mafia?

[FlaviusAetius]

i do think he is, if he isnt he dies tonight by the moriarty member. if he isnt, he is the last moriarty

[purplecow]

Well I was going off what chaqa said but Vecna did say that the M1 goon is likely in the male VT claims.

[FlaviusAetius]

mafia Team B will be focused on trying to eliminate jack with their kill, and tom will be RBed as per usual

[bozotheclown]

right now yavu is a female VT, right? thats his claim. mafia will want to kill him, so jack cant.
They also need to find out who jack is, like desperately need to find out who he is, because now each day we are going to reveal one of our female VT's, meaning they have no choice but to hunt for jack at night, not us!

That only makes sense if yavuzovic is not team 2 mafia or the SK. Are you sure yavuzovic is not either of those?

[CmdrLikely]

##Vote FlaviusAetius

Flavius, I don't believe that you think killing ND is a good idea. We need to kill mafia. Hyde might kill who knows who, but doctor can save everyday. We've been having less than the max total kills per night, so we must assume some PR is doing their job (or, to be fair, it literally could be Jack and both Maf's pick overlapping targets sometimes).

Anyways, we should lynch badguys, or y'know, people who are pushing bad, scummy decisions...

[purplecow]

As I said in a previous post, I wanted to see what yavu thought about Chaqa's posts. But that still hasn't happened.

[FlaviusAetius]

next day, exactly one town VT will expose themselves, and then again all three of their actions, the RB, and Team A and Team B's kills will be completely focused on Jack.
Us on the other hand? Have the leisure to kill a Mafia Team B member.

[FlaviusAetius]

##Vote FlaviusAetius

Flavius, I don't believe that you think killing ND is a good idea. We need to kill mafia. Hyde might kill who knows who, but doctor can save everyday. We've been having less than the max total kills per night, so we must assume some PR is doing their job (or, to be fair, it literally could be Jack and both Maf's pick overlapping targets sometimes).

Anyways, we should lynch badguys, or y'know, people who are pushing bad, scummy decisions...

This isnt my idea, it's Vecna's I was against it from the beginning, and now I'm for it
ND I believe is also for it, so there ya go

[CmdrLikely]

if we leave ND alive, you give the mafia an extra kill, a kill to kill Tom or ND.
Do you want that?

What are you trying to say? Why would mafia get an extra kill? Are you referring to Hyde? Hyde has nothing to do with either mafias.

[FlaviusAetius]

right now yavu is a female VT, right? thats his claim. mafia will want to kill him, so jack cant.
They also need to find out who jack is, like desperately need to find out who he is, because now each day we are going to reveal one of our female VT's, meaning they have no choice but to hunt for jack at night, not us!

That only makes sense if yavuzovic is not team 2 mafia or the SK. Are you sure yavuzovic is not either of those?

I explain all scenarios, there is only one where yavu does not die, and that is if he is mafia team A

[FlaviusAetius]

##Vote FlaviusAetius

Flavius, I don't believe that you think killing ND is a good idea. We need to kill mafia. Hyde might kill who knows who, but doctor can save everyday. We've been having less than the max total kills per night, so we must assume some PR is doing their job (or, to be fair, it literally could be Jack and both Maf's pick overlapping targets sometimes).

Anyways, we should lynch badguys, or y'know, people who are pushing bad, scummy decisions...

We know who Hyde will kill and thats Tom or Demon

[FlaviusAetius]

if we leave ND alive, you give the mafia an extra kill, a kill to kill Tom or ND.
Do you want that?

What are you trying to say? Why would mafia get an extra kill? Are you referring to Hyde? Hyde has nothing to do with either mafias.

Hyde is mafia alligned

[bozotheclown]

mafia Team B will be focused on trying to eliminate jack with their kill, and tom will be RBed as per usual

Again, here is the worse case if we lynch ND today:

D5: 9-3-1-1, lynch Jekyll
N5: 2 town NKed
D6: 6-3-1-1, lynch team 1 mafia
N6: 2 town NKed
D7: 4-3-1, lynch SK
N7: 1 town NKed
D8: 3-3
town loses

If we do not lynch the SK, as you say, it does not get any better.

Do you really think our best chance to win is to count on the SK and mafia targeting each other?

[bozotheclown]

##Vote FlaviusAetius

Flavius, I don't believe that you think killing ND is a good idea. We need to kill mafia. Hyde might kill who knows who, but doctor can save everyday. We've been having less than the max total kills per night, so we must assume some PR is doing their job (or, to be fair, it literally could be Jack and both Maf's pick overlapping targets sometimes).

Anyways, we should lynch badguys, or y'know, people who are pushing bad, scummy decisions...

We know who Hyde will kill and thats Tom or Demon

I think you are correct that Hyde will target one of those two, and I agree that is one benefit to lynching ND. However, the downside is that we lose a town clear (ND), we do not lynch a scum, and we lose the Jekyll doctor protection.

[bozotheclown]

I am not sure what yavuzovic's role is, though, but if he mafia from either team or the SK, I think he would be a better lynch than ND. My preference is still to lynch BionicMole.