MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[yavuzovic]

While rereading,
I suck, I really. Sorry, I'm not making original ideas but wandering around and making offensive posts. I would lynch myself. In the other hand, I weigh the ideas in my head, don't worry about it.
##unvote

[bozotheclown]

I do not see any reason why the commuter would hide instead of counterclaiming DemonRHK. I am still waiting for Kitsune to post again, but if it is not DemonRHK, I think BionicMole is our best chance for the last Moriarty.

##VOTE BionicMole

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote Count (Corrected)

BionicMole(5)- Vecna, Temasek22, xorxes, Chaqa, bozotheclown
DemonRHK(1) - KalelChase
KalelChase(2) - DemonRHK, Tom Bombadil
FlaviusAetius(2) - Dargorygel, Purplecow
Bozotheclown(1) - Kitsune
CmdrLikely(1) - ND
Chaqa(1) - FlaviusAetius

Unvoted: CmdrLikely, Yavuzovic

BIONICMOLE is set to be lynched.

[bozotheclown]

##Vote BionicMole

The Bot seems to regard this as an invalid vote.
I have no idea why.

I confirm this vote is valid and will be counted. Updated VC soon.

The bot does not seems to like anyone voting for BionicMole.

[bozotheclown]

The votes the bot registered for BionicMole went with this:

##VOTE Bionic

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote BionicMole

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It is only recognising "Bionic" or " Bionic Mole ".

Do not worry. Your votes are counted.

[bozotheclown]

The Bot seems to regard this as an invalid vote.
I have no idea why.

I confirm this vote is valid and will be counted. Updated VC soon.

The bot does not seems to like anyone voting for BionicMole.

It is only recognising "Bionic" or " Bionic Mole ".

Do not worry. Your votes are counted.

Now the bot thinks BionicMole is dead.

[Chaqa]

@Jamiet - do this:

##RESURRECT BionicMole

should fix it

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh I see, I accidentally murdered BionicMole.

##RESURRECT BIONICMOLE
##RESURRECT Bionic

[FlaviusAetius]

I dont think Demon is the last of Moriarty I think you are. Yavu and Demon are on the other mafia team

I have pushed him for quite a long time. Instead of spamming, tell us what is the relation between Yavu and Demon.

I dont think Demon is mafia anymores, that was before, but there was nothing in particular that put you two together, I just thought you were both mafia separately, and since I had no reason to think you on morirarty(I think Chaqa is) it was pretty clear that I thought you two were on the other team

[FlaviusAetius]

-snip-

I SPEANT THREE HOURS ON THIS GAME LAST NIGHT DONT TELL ME I DONT SPEND ENOUGH TIME, I HAVE BLOWN OFF WRITING ESSAYS TO PLAY THIS GAME, I PUT ALL THE EFFORT IN THE WORLD HERE, OBVIOUSLY A LOT MORE THAN SOME PEOPLE HERE

-snip-

... how does it take three hours to catch up? It takes me like 5 minutes per page max.

because I read everything and then respond to everything

[Chaqa]

Oh I see, I accidentally murdered BionicMole.

##RESURRECT BIONICMOLE
##RESURRECT Bionic

All good now!

Yeah, it's *our* job to murder Bionic Mole!

[FlaviusAetius]

Here's another thing. For all you hate meta, Flav, it's one of the few things that's stopped us from collectively lynching you so far, as your playstyle is one that inherently comes off as scummy from an objective standpoint. That's not something out-of-the-ordinary. So is my own playstyle. So is yavuz's. Even Kalel, to a point.

Well you shouldnt scum read someone for their playstyle either thats going off of meta once more, just read what people say for goodness sakes

Not scumread, explicitly said that it's not causing scumreads.

but be inherently scummy in the sense that it is detrimental to town. Brain falls into it at times, pissed!Jamie does, some others you don't know lol

Voting late, impulse vote jumping, causing inane drama, fluffy posts, ambiguous wordings, being obviously ESL, lurking, spamming, talking in a style that is difficult for others to understand, and so forth. Some players have more of these tendencies than others, that is just the way it is.

You said why people think I'm being viewed as scum
and which is why I think it's ridiculous, you shouldn't judge people off of things like that no reason too, and it's clearly just random

[FlaviusAetius]

What are you referring to when you say "the exact same thing"?

you saying that demon was just participating and just lurking, you were doing the exact same thing

I still do not know what you mean by "just participating and just lurking", but it does not sound like the reason I suspected DemonRHK.

read emc's post on you, maybe it will refresh your memory

[FlaviusAetius]

ISO ON CHAQA, AND WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR HIM

Page 9 Chaqa announced he is Dr. Jekyll, basically around the time when the game just got past its joke phases
His first post was 12 mintues before this

That must mean he thought fake-claiming Dr. Jekyll was in the best interests of the town, in 12 mintues, that is one heck of a turnaround to come to that conclusion.

PILLAR ONE DID NOT THINK THIS THROUGH, COMPLICATED EXPLANATIONS ARE FAKE


I thought it was obvious. I want Hyde to get exactly one kill off before I get killed. This will remove a threat from town (Hyde) and allow me to use my ability twice, as well as keep town focused on other scum hunting endeavors while allowing me to lead the town a bit until we have other confirmed or semi-confirmed townies to join in leadership duties.

So obviously Chaqa wants to *lead*
So lets see where he 'lead' us,

gave some opinions about people on page 21, not bad, still not pushing anyone
if you were planning to keep up this fake-claim to 'lead' the town, do tell me how did you expect to push people, on Day 1 a day of randomness. Do you honestly think this was the best day to fake-claim something like this?

You say the Bob lynch is bad(I agree it was bad, pure luck we got him)
you settle on dargo, and start pushing...

Ok so you realize the dargo wagon is going nowheres, and move onto Vapor, because he was pushing Bob, and acting iffy, and HAD A SCUMSLIP
Ok so lets look at this, because I think its a very important point

Bob and Vapor BOTH had scumslips
Why settle on Vapor's wagon, and push Vapor's wagon, NOT Bob's wagon?

SECOND PILLAR, LET EOD BE VERY RISKY, FOR A GUY WHO DID THE EXACT SAME THING BOB WAS DOING, TRYING TO SAVE TEAMMATE?

^^day 1 iso^^
day 2 iso coming in the next post

[Chaqa]

@Flavius - if you'll recall, this game started on a Friday, and several people can attest that I got sick around that time and was basically dead to the world for a week or so leading up to the game start... fun times. I even had to skip D&D on the Saturday before EoD1, and that's how you know it's serious.

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE

Exactly two hours remain.

BionicMole, CmdrLikely, yavuzovic, and e.m.c^42 must vote before phase ends.

[FlaviusAetius]

forgot about night 1

I have a feeling that Bob's teammates were not around at EoD. The last minute way things happened also make me think ComputerGenius/TomBomb is on the OTHER mafia team from Bob, with his teammates being amongst the cadre that lynched Bob (EMC, Damo, Xorx, purple).

I still think Vapor/new Vapor may be Jack.

Dargo I’m still suspicious of too.

A VERY VERY VERY INTERESTING POST FROM CHAQA AT END OF N1

Dargo--> We don't know about him
Emc--> We don't know about him
Damo-->TOWN
purple-->(pretty much confirmed town, or assumed town?)
Vapor(TomBomb)-->SHERLOCK

leaving out TWO people;
ItsHosuke-->Gambler
KalelChase-->We don't know about him

This is a shotgun approach, mixing in scum and town in this post. I am pretty sure one of these people were attempted to be killed
No one dies Night 1...

DAY 2 ISO ON CHAQA, AND WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR HIM

so before all of this ND vs. Chaqa thing, what was Chaqa doing?
the so-called townleader, that is what your original reasoning was behind it, no?
you did leading Day 1, it didnt work you werent aggressive, you tried though, and were really sketchy at the end, leading nontheless

you defend frostwind, you were ABSOLUTELY SURE dargo was and should be a lynch candidate, you did not take any time to push him, an hour went by and you made one measly post to defend frostwind

PILLAR THREE, NO SIGNIFICANT LEADING

Ok so now its the ND vs. Chaqa, once ND counter-claimed why didnt you give it up? Did you think you could of won the claim battle and lynch Dr. Jekyll? as a sacrifice? LIKELY.

The odd thing is, I've reached the same conclusion as ND. I'm quite dumbfounded about why he's doing this, but we'll have to lynch one of us to sort it out.

Your full intention was to lynch one of you

PILLAR FOUR, MOTIVATION(the real) FOR WHY YOU FAKE-CLAIMED

Direction, you wanted direction, you said it yourself, no? ND CCed you at hour 46, you retracted your claim...13 1/2 hours later. At hour 32:30.
What direction did you provide, besides uselessness? Do you understand that now you are going to have to continue defending yourself???
You provided no direction, just DISTRACTION

Unfortunately, due to still being a bit sick and having a long-ass work day (I didn't get home until 5:55 my time - 5 minutes before EoD. Normally done at 3 or 4) I was unable to be a town leader. Still, despite that, and despite me almost leading us off Bob, we got Moriarity. So, overall, Day 1 worked our spectacularly, despite me.

If you KNEW you were sick, you KNEW you were going to have a long workday, and DESPITE all of this, you still fake-claimed one of the most important roles in this game, to be a town-leader. You KNEW all of this before, so WHY would you do it, if you KNEW you couldnt keep up with it?

Up to this point, I had been operating on the assumption that Dr. Jekyll knew I was trying to protect him and/or draw night-kills (mainly the latter). More on this later, but with ND outing himself, my gameplan changed:

Why ASSUME that, when the real Jekyll, just AS YOU DID, knew he needed to be lynched Day 3, or was going to be killed regardless Night 2, so he would just OUT himself, and CATCH a SCUM at the SAME TIME! You did not assume that literally at all

N​ow - the plan was to stick to my guns and see who believed who. My reasoning is:
ND must have protected himself Night 1, and mafia know this. Therefore, mafia know he will be vulnerable to a kill tonight. They also would likely think that the other Jekyll claimant (me) is either an opposing mafia member, Jack, or a towny - basicsally all great lynch targets. So... mafia would likely NOT side with me, but would instead prefer to lynch me, a towny, and then have a great kill option in ND tonight.

Or...anyone would just attack you because its pretty clear you had no idea what was going on, YOU EVEN SAID THIS. AND ONTOP OF THAT, you mentioned how you messed up bad, and so you REDOUBLED DOWN?? Makes no sense.
Or...people would defend you KNOWING you arent mafia
Or...you know there's two teams :facedesk:

This is getting long, I will continue on the next post, and answer any questions before I continue

[FlaviusAetius]

@Flavius - if you'll recall, this game started on a Friday, and several people can attest that I got sick around that time and was basically dead to the world for a week or so leading up to the game start... fun times. I even had to skip D&D on the Saturday before EoD1, and that's how you know it's serious.

WAHAHAHAHA
THEN WHY DID YOU FAKE-CLAIM SUCH AN IMPORTANT ROLE IF YOU >KNEW< YOU WERE SICK

[FlaviusAetius]

@Flavius - if you'll recall, this game started on a Friday, and several people can attest that I got sick around that time and was basically dead to the world for a week or so leading up to the game start... fun times. I even had to skip D&D on the Saturday before EoD1, and that's how you know it's serious.

WAHAHAHAHA
THEN WHY DID YOU FAKE-CLAIM SUCH AN IMPORTANT ROLE IF YOU >KNEW< YOU WERE SICK

You wanted to provide direction, you wanted to town-lead, why would you townlead if you were SICK? Why would claim such an important role, cause such a ruckus, if you were SICK? They don't add up, not one bit