MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

I do this with every mafia game ever, stop using meta to determine people and look what I actually say, maybe then you'll see the things Im pushing actually make sense
#lynch chaqa
#lynch yavu
^^^^^^^after purple^^^^^^^^

Lol... so Flavius just quoted a post he HASNT GOTTEN TO YET, but is still catching up in His method?

Guess what... he slipped, because he's actually caught up and pretending.

Actually false, the way I do it is by going to the latest page that I was at, then commenting on everything, then I press the back space, sometimes I notice comments above, I've done this before btw, so this isnt new. And so then I comment on those posts if I want too, if not I wait until later, like Im doing right now so, the method continues, and guess what, more people are wanting to do it, because its just that dominant, so idk what your on, but maybe bad faith? especially since I want to lynch YOU

Lets not go as far as to pretend those people are copying you though son

[Vecna]

If Tom is not Sherlock, the real one should stay quiet. That may be obvious but...

WHAT
I wouldn't complain as long as Tom gives correct scans though.
Apart from joke, that's impossible and even if it is, Sherlock should claim now.

I think Bionic is correct. Some town points to him, as at this point, if Tom is not Sherlock the actual one should not claim until Tom is either NK'd or last member of Moriarty's team flips.

Its pretty obvious that he is actually Sherlock so I really dont get this type of filler theorizing

[Vecna]

The crux of the RHK issue is that if an un cc’d Cop who just lynched scum announces they have a guilty, the natural town immediate reaction I would expect is to believe it. I would not expect town to question it, or ask why I wasn’t roleblocked, unless they had that on the mind because they knew I was roleblocked

Dont count on this logic too much though. Your story had a ton of flaws in it (like, why on earth would you save your actual cop scan for N3? and not N2 even if for some reason you decided to vanilla cop on N1).

I find it much more plausible that scum do the chickenshit thing and just pretend to be clueless.

[Vecna]

If Tom is not Sherlock, the real one should stay quiet. That may be obvious but...

No if Tom is not Sherlock the real one should claim RIGHT NOW, we would have two in the row lynches, and a whole bunch of new information. Plus we are going to have to have a big debate about who the real one is, its really really important they claim now, especially since they could DIE tomorrow night!

NOBODY ELSE CLAIM SHERLOCK

fucking hell

[Vecna]

The fact that Flav is reading and reacting as he goes, seems really towny to me. He’s putting in either a lot of effort or faking a lot of effort on arguments that are moot with new information he hasn’t gotten too yet.

I changed my mind.

##vote DemonRHK

Demon is the best lynch today, but

if you want a taste of scum!Flav take a look at Mafia 45. Scumteam was xorxes/bozo/yavu/Flav. I was the only one lynched. Flav was widely townread pretty much for doing what he is doing here. I can't guarantee that he is scum, but I want to warn again against townreading him too freely.

How do you feel about Bionic atm?

[Vecna]

This game clearly suffers from too many juicy lynchtargets.

##vote Bionic

I really dont get why everyone suddenly cooled off of this slot

[xorxes]

The fact that Flav is reading and reacting as he goes, seems really towny to me. He’s putting in either a lot of effort or faking a lot of effort on arguments that are moot with new information he hasn’t gotten too yet.

I changed my mind.

##vote DemonRHK

Demon is the best lynch today, but

if you want a taste of scum!Flav take a look at Mafia 45. Scumteam was xorxes/bozo/yavu/Flav. I was the only one lynched. Flav was widely townread pretty much for doing what he is doing here. I can't guarantee that he is scum, but I want to warn again against townreading him too freely.

How do you feel about Bionic atm?

Not strongly either way. He can still play the newbie card to get away with a lot.

[xorxes]

This game clearly suffers from too many juicy lynchtargets.

##vote Bionic

I really dont get why everyone suddenly cooled off of this slot

Because of Demon. Bionic was head to head with Demon for last Moriarty slot, but Demon has overtaken him by a mile now.

[bozotheclown]

Only four vote for DemonRHK with only emc not voting? Didn't anyone pay attention to DemonRHK's reaction at the beginning of D4? He even voted for himself 16 minutes into the day.

[bozotheclown]

When I first heard mention of massclaims (and then maybe just male VT) during this phase my initial reaction was to wonder why we would want to make easy targets for all the hostile entities out there. I admit I have never experienced a massclaim so I don't know how it really plays out. Looking at the numbers that Xorxes has laid out, it makes a little more sense provided we don't miss any along the way. His numbers also are worse case with all the kills hitting, which we haven't seen to this point so I am not opposed to the discussion.

A mass claim of roles typically makes it significantly easier to identify the scum, and in certain circumstance the benefits can outweigh the drawbacks. I do not think it is obvious whether a mass claim is advantageous right now as it would include some risks, like helping the SK kill females.

[BionicMole]

WHAT
I wouldn't complain as long as Tom gives correct scans though.
Apart from joke, that's impossible and even if it is, Sherlock should claim now.

I think Bionic is correct. Some town points to him, as at this point, if Tom is not Sherlock the actual one should not claim until Tom is either NK'd or last member of Moriarty's team flips.

Its pretty obvious that he is actually Sherlock so I really dont get this type of filler theorizing

Haha, I am not Sherlock, give me a minute to finish...

[CmdrLikely]

##Vote Purplecow

[BionicMole]

I wasn't around for EOD 3 when Tom claimed that he had scanned Rivera but my first impression when reading it after and hearing him claim Sherlock was, "why would he do that and get killed only to have his notebook taken by Team 2 and read"? I thought about it for a minute and disregarded the thought because the notebook didn't mean anything because he had just said everything in it anyway.

Then this:

So awesome news. In fact, I did play a patented Tom Bombadil gambit and did not Cop scan rivera N1. I vanilla/non-vanilla scanned him and got non-vanilla and figured he was scum.

That means that tonight I was able to cop scan and got a GUILTY result for purple cow!!

So either mafia or SK

First impressions on this post was, "that's pretty shitty, our Town Clear and Town Leader has lied to us about the information he put out. That is when I went back to the EOD voting and noticed that he made his initial claim with 11 minutes left when he was set to be lynched. A desperate move.

Then this:

For those who don't recall or know, this was also Dargo's epic shining moment, M42.

Tom claimed cop, with two guilty scans. Dargo was desperado who shot both of them, who indeed turned out to be scum. Tom was then nk'd and flipped VT lmao. Darg hipfired, and hit another scum. Repeat. (he's singlehandedly eliminated majority of scum team). Real cop came forwards with guilty scan, lynched second-to-last scum, remaining one surrendered.

That was a beautiful, beautiful game.
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Hmmmmmm, thanks for some meta insight. He has the balls to do something pretty bold.

Then this:

So awesome news. In fact, I did play a patented Tom Bombadil gambit and did not Cop scan rivera N1. I vanilla/non-vanilla scanned him and got non-vanilla and figured he was scum.

That means that tonight I was able to cop scan and got a GUILTY result for purple cow!!

So either mafia or SK

More lies and deception from the one we are supposed to trust

And Finally this:

I didn’t scan purple. It’s our job now to figure out the reactions. Three people knew I was lying because I was roleblocked. For what it’s worth, I got a towny reaction from purple from this. The sketchiest reaction is from DemonRHK who looks to be either coaching scumbuddies by saying “why weren’t you roleblocked” or just making a really bad comment as town.

Are you kidding me dude?

My thoughts went back to Sherlock's Notebook and the feeling that all of this was a way to get the real Sherlock to CC so Tom and his scumbuddies can kill him and have the Graverobber take the notebook. This is why I have said a couple times that the real Sherlock should keep quiet.


##Vote Tom

[Temasek22]

##vote demon

Appearently most likely to be third member of team Moriathy

[BionicMole]

I think Tom is most likely Team 2 Goon and is a sacrificial lamb in order to get their hands on that Notebook.

Ripper's Knife is a pretty nice item, but 4 pieces of information could turn the tide.

[Tom Bombadil]

I think Tom is most likely Team 2 Goon and is a sacrificial lamb in order to get their hands on that Notebook.

Ripper's Knife is a pretty nice item, but 4 pieces of information could turn the tide.

So you think that I faked a guilty on rivera and happened to be right?

People voting Bionic thoughts on him continuing down this path?

[Tom Bombadil]

Tem - please don't just parrot a non confirmed town xorxes

[BionicMole]

I think Tom is most likely Team 2 Goon and is a sacrificial lamb in order to get their hands on that Notebook.

Ripper's Knife is a pretty nice item, but 4 pieces of information could turn the tide.

So you think that I faked a guilty on rivera and happened to be right?

People voting Bionic thoughts on him continuing down this path?

How did you fake claim TWO guilties in that game that was sited?

[purplecow]

##Vote Purplecow

I see you ordered a vote for me.
Would you like to give a side of reasoning along with it?

[Tom Bombadil]

I think Tom is most likely Team 2 Goon and is a sacrificial lamb in order to get their hands on that Notebook.

Ripper's Knife is a pretty nice item, but 4 pieces of information could turn the tide.

So you think that I faked a guilty on rivera and happened to be right?

People voting Bionic thoughts on him continuing down this path?

How did you fake claim TWO guilties in that game that was sited?

I was heavily scumreading Jamie and then was the night kill target and was docsaved, so I was pretty sure he was scum. I claimed a scan on him, and he basically admitted to it, which made sure it didn't blow up in my face. the other scum was brain who was the scummiest guy I've ever seen. He didn't really want to play the game I don't think and wasn't trying. Its not as cool as it sounds.