MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

I want to take my time and think about why Damo was targeted and what I can figure out when combined with my reaction test info.

Bunny was obvious town and I’m sad to see him go.

The fact xorxes, Tom, Vecna haven’t been fear killed yet means there’s likely scum in there. Probably 2.

Pretty happy people keep using this type of logic so we can at least play a bit longer and not get fearkilled all the time N1. Bring on those suspicions.

(but to be fair, especially with two scumteams around, its gonna happen anytime soon now - especially since I dont foresee anymore weekends away from this).

[xorxes]

STOP TALKINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Your logic isn't necessarily wrong, it's just that I think the benefits of talking outweighs that of silence :D

although, was wondering - what would you do in games with day chat?

we already have 48 hours worth of talking thats more than enough to discuss, 24 hour, especially with mafia being able to openly communicate not a good idea!
and we already have day chat, so what do you mean

Giving people excuses not to participate especially in this low participation game, not a good idea! You were second top poster night 1, and you are currently second this night, BTW.

[Vecna]

Hosu, actually start playing pal...

Chaqa's post makes me wonder, how was damo killed instead of the usual ones like xorx/Vecna? Did he false crumb or something, or did Jack just try his chances? Could either, or both xorx and Vecna be mafia? I'm gonna take a closer look later.

I still hate how Hosu's vote turned out, I know he's horrible as town, but still...

##vote itsh

This is actually the first decent post form Tem in all the game, and seems pretty honest

[Vecna]

We have the ability to eliminate ND as soon as he is dangerous enough. Move off that option. I'm still thinking of who can be an alternative lynch.

Nope. The longer he lives, the more valuable he becomes. Were not taking him out so scum better man up if they want him gone.

[xorxes]

I need to answer further questions tomorrow. That's all for today. But really, I had no reason to kill Bunny. I didn't think about whom I would kill but Bunny, maybe I would try some people townreading me so I could gain credits later.
You are slandering me Tom.

Time to catch up on what actually happened during D3

Yavuz seems pretty towny to me straight off the bat. A level of genuineness to his posts, and he's actually kidding around about the nightkill and Tom accusing him.

His mastery of the literary arts sometimes comes off as kidding around.

[Vecna]

One has to wonder at this point why the usual suspects were not killed. Guessing that they might be scum in this game and situation doesn't necessarily follow. Jack is an enigma, looking for hints of gender. Or danger to himself. But the two scumteams don't want to hot the same target, like n1. So they might be trying to hit secondary choices, noting that the usual suspects have not been active or a threat even.

Lets hope we get some better shit from darg than stating the obvious this day.

[Vecna]

However it does make me wonder about the experience level of the scumteams.

Id usually say the more experienced teams make the more obscure nightkills.

Even the biggest noob can easily determine who are normally the more dangerous players.

[Vecna]

I feel pretty good that xorx is town. Unsure on Vecna

You'll change your mind soon enough

[Vecna]

I can't tell if Cmdr is purposefully obfuscating here or not.

Yikes, I don't want to be obfuscating things. That's another strike against me and a reason to stay out of the way. Please consider the fact that I'm fairly new and might just be a lousy town player.

I'll try to keep it simple.

I didn't say one word about Frost. In fact, I never jumped on the wagon and didn't understand why it was so huge.

I asked YOU why you have to TRY to be town. Then you deflect and attempt to muddy the waters further. This isn't a great look and worthy of getting my vote for now

##Vote Commander

This is just classic scumdumpster reasoning for scumreading someone. Having to look at the literal words and trying to paint them scummy.

Prime candidate for the second scumteam.

[xorxes]

Hosu, actually start playing pal...

Chaqa's post makes me wonder, how was damo killed instead of the usual ones like xorx/Vecna? Did he false crumb or something, or did Jack just try his chances? Could either, or both xorx and Vecna be mafia? I'm gonna take a closer look later.

I still hate how Hosu's vote turned out, I know he's horrible as town, but still...

##vote itsh

This is actually the first decent post form Tem in all the game, and seems pretty honest

What? Setting aside his perpetual obsession with Hosuke, the other paragraph doesn't say anything. If anything it suggests he might be in the team that killed damo.

[Vecna]

RIP Bunny and Damo.

Two dead VTs isn't the worst result for the night and neither the better. Bunny was pretty towny but Damo is a weird choice, he was mostly scumread (maybe Jacko or he crumbed something that I didn't see).

I don't think we need to lynch ND today. I also don't think Chaqa is a good lynch for today, at least a lynch based only on his fake claim.

I am starting to get a lot of doubts about Vecna and Bozo, I usually get strong vibes (scummy or towny) from them and this game they agree just null. And Hosuke and Kit need to start playing.

Bozo is suspicious to me because of the EOD1 votes but other than that I'm not too sure.

Note to self to look into this group again. It wasnt too big to begin with and im pretty sure its narrowed down quite a bit now.

[Vecna]

You know what,

adios

##VOTE PURPLE

Lol are you sure?

Hey if you think I'm not scum then why not try to actually defend me?

town

[xorxes]

Yikes, I don't want to be obfuscating things. That's another strike against me and a reason to stay out of the way. Please consider the fact that I'm fairly new and might just be a lousy town player.

I'll try to keep it simple.

I didn't say one word about Frost. In fact, I never jumped on the wagon and didn't understand why it was so huge.

I asked YOU why you have to TRY to be town. Then you deflect and attempt to muddy the waters further. This isn't a great look and worthy of getting my vote for now

##Vote Commander

This is just classic scumdumpster reasoning for scumreading someone. Having to look at the literal words and trying to paint them scummy.

Prime candidate for the second scumteam.

He is currently my prime candidate for last Moriarty. Why second team?

[Vecna]

He’s got this thing about him this game where he comes across as “too cool”. Like voting for people and giving no explanation. Or coming in and saying how the long phase is going to krill the game. He’s playing like one of the good players who thinks they are better than everyone. That’s not normal for him, and he isn’t good enough to do that. He’s being unnatural

Why did you give this random read on damo that literally no one asked for. And now he shows up as dead, you realize how suspicious that is? Its absoulutely ridiculous and frankly, you havent done anything in my mind to get out of that scum category, you and bosox(now yavu) in my view are connected, it seems there's more traction for the bosox(now yavu) wagon though, ##vote yavu if he pops up as scum, you are following.

This post is actually a major red flag.

How do you even remember someone saying a random thing about a random player, and then bringing it up when that guy dies two days later? Looks like part of some stupid plan.

[Vecna]

Fine I'll change my vote.
##Vote bozo
Though I'm not too sure about it.

No new scum player would ever admit this and vote like this

[Vecna]

But you got Jack the Ripper, right? Not the leading role maybe, but one of the top supporting roles.

I don't know why eveyone thinks I stabbed BunnyGo.
No, but I would like to, after not achieving what I deserved as Thanos, because of ChippeRock.

I don't know which one of them you stabbed. Who thought you stabbed BunnyGo?

My reasoning is that you were looking for the VT role PM. That suggests you are not VT, and that you were looking for which roles were male and which roles were female. I can't think of any other reason you would be looking for the VT role PM.

I also cant fathom why scum would actually talk about that in the main thread. Even Yavuz as scum isnt nearly that obvious. Bad reasoning Xorxy

[Vecna]

VOTE COUNT 3.2

yavuzovic(3) - bozotheclown, FlaviusAetius, Tom Bombadil
purplecow(2) - ND, ItsHosuke
CmdrLikely(2) - xorxes, BionicMole
Chaqa(1) - Vecna
ItsHosuke(1) - Temasek22
FlaviusAetius(1) - CmdrLikely
bozotheclown(1) - purplecow

Currently YAVUZOVIC is set to be lynched.

There are 27 hours and 46 minutes to go.

note to self: top 4 wagons on people that are probably all town

[Vecna]

I'm the lynch now.

I am not Jack the Ripper.
I don't refuse being a mafia member for now, but stop calling me Jack the Ripper.
If I were that, I would be seeking for gender counts and not VT PM.
If I was going to ask where the PMs are, I would ask this privately to GM. Not in the main thread.

lol wtf yavuz, stop making it so easy for people to wagon you with random nonsense like these posts.

[Vecna]

“ I don't refuse being a mafia member for now, ”

Wut

Maybe he wants to negotiate. If he is in the Moriarty band, we join forces with them to find the other team.

What a totally weird thing to say when there were still 2 of those member

[xorxes]

VOTE COUNT 3.2

yavuzovic(3) - bozotheclown, FlaviusAetius, Tom Bombadil
purplecow(2) - ND, ItsHosuke
CmdrLikely(2) - xorxes, BionicMole
Chaqa(1) - Vecna
ItsHosuke(1) - Temasek22
FlaviusAetius(1) - CmdrLikely
bozotheclown(1) - purplecow

Currently YAVUZOVIC is set to be lynched.

There are 27 hours and 46 minutes to go.

note to self: top 4 wagons on people that are probably all town

Which wagon do you count as fourth?