MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[Temasek22]

RIP Bunny and damo. You all will be missed.

Are we still going to vote ND? Or do we let him live and lynch someone else?

[BionicMole]

RIP guys, until next time..

[BionicMole]

I'll try to look at the votes at EOD1.

I think it was a bit ridiculous too, but definetly not enough to lynch for, this wagon seems weak, and people who are scumreading him didnt even use this as evidence, which makes me think this is a mafia pushed wagon

I agree it's a mafia-led wagon. Who have the main pushers been?

Vapor, Dargo, are the two main culprits.

Bob is voting Vapor. I'll join him to protect him.

##Vote Vaporwave

Chaqa moves the Vapor wagon along.

Then Damo and I join in.

##vote Vapor

throwing spanner in the works

##vote vapor
I'll join in

Frost comes in as well.

After getting some food in my stomach, I'm rereading through the thread. I'm gonna hop off the Computer_Genius wagon, since he's probably never gonna talk. I find BobMcBob as giving off too many town vibes to attempt a hang on.

##VOTE VAPORWAVE

EMC thinks Bob is more likely to be scum than Vapor and creates a tie.

Ah fuck it, I'd rather idkprobablytown!Bob flip than unlikelytobescum!Vapor, so ##vote Bob

sorry man

Then the rush to try to untie the score.

##vote bob
a no lynch is bad right?

##VOTE Bob

##VOTE Vapor

Bozo votes back to Computer. Possibly trying to get people to go on Computer instead? OR maybe just realizing a tie won't happen.

##VOTE Computer

Flav and Damo get their last votes in. Damo didn't realize it was already not a tie perhaps?

##vote vapor

##vote Bob

no tie

And then the day ends.

This is a pretty fair assessment of the EOD1 votes, for I gave this some attention myself. The vote is 5 Vape - 4 Bob with 5 minutes left when the flurry of votes happens.

Only two of the votes really bother me though. The first one was EMC for tying the vote with 3 minutes left.

And in the literal last minute, Purple and Xorxes' votes seem legit to try to untie it again. Bozo's two votes seem legit because he saw two for Bob and his on Vape could have caused another tie, so he bailed.

Then came Flav, and the second vote that bothers me, with his own Vape vote after he saw 2 for Bob and 1 for Vape. Was he trying to protect his scumbuddy Bob by forcing a tie? Seems odd to me, however I will admit this all happened in 60 seconds.

[BionicMole]

I also find it interesting that I may be the only one to have a scumlean on Flav and since I have brought that up he has been nowhere to be found.

[CmdrLikely]

##VOTE CMDRLIKELY

Adios

Obligatory: "please elaborate @ND".

The plan as far as I thought was to lynch Chaqa then ND. Either way, let's cancel that plan. We probably all agree that we don't want to lose another town so we need a strong scum lean. I'm no longer comfortable with lynching Jekyll to get Hyde. We need ND for Jekyll. Chaqa I'm not so sure we need. I'm still on the fence.

Why are people saying lynch ND. Why not lynch Chaqa? I'm talking to you Temasek and Purplecow.

[CmdrLikely]

I also find it interesting that I may be the only one to have a scumlean on Flav and since I have brought that up he has been nowhere to be found.

This one made Flav high on my list, but I acknowledge the possibility of OMGUS bias:

I agree with lynching Frostwind, but not today. Like people have said, his voting habbits appear non-town. We should lynch ND or Chaqa on principal that it will get us somewhere. Conceivably, it could be bad to kill a doctor... but we'd also be killing a Night Kill PR. Also, we have another doctor already. Arguably having the doctors coordinate is tricky and not guaranteed. So due to possible overlap, I'd only consider it more like 1 ½ doctors.
Anyways, everyone saying don't lynch ND or Chaqa are looking scummy to me.

Why risk it when we dont have too???? You haven't addressed anything at all, all you did was talk about mechanics. And what about the arguments against lynching Frost? You didn't even address those. Your just repeating what other people said, and no backing for why, and claim anyone who disagrees with said people is scummy,

[ND]

It's possible the person I targeted yesterday was saved by me. Or perhaps not. The GMS, when I asked them privately, said that since my power is a day doc save they would not tell me if the person I targeted was attacked/saved. So, I don't know if I caused one less death or not. Totally possible another PR was successful and if so plz for the love of god don't say anything.

@Cmdr: Because ur prob scum.

Those voting for me, if you want to vote me off do it with conviction not this softing crap. 'Oh... r we voting ND $vote nd.. oh is that what we are doin?'

Purple/Tem look pretty scummy rn for trying to see if the town wants to do that. And if the town wants to do it then do it.

I might vote Pruplecow

[ND]

You know what,

adios

##VOTE PURPLE

[CmdrLikely]

You know what,

adios

##VOTE PURPLE

Lol are you sure?

[ItsHosuke]

Just following the town leader here.

##vote purple

[rdrivera2005]

RIP Bunny and Damo.

Two dead VTs isn't the worst result for the night and neither the better. Bunny was pretty towny but Damo is a weird choice, he was mostly scumread (maybe Jacko or he crumbed something that I didn't see).

I don't think we need to lynch ND today. I also don't think Chaqa is a good lynch for today, at least a lynch based only on his fake claim.

I am starting to get a lot of doubts about Vecna and Bozo, I usually get strong vibes (scummy or towny) from them and this game they agree just null. And Hosuke and Kit need to start playing.

[rdrivera2005]

Just following the town leader here.

##vote purple

This is unacceptable, starting giving some actual thought or ask for a sub.

[KalelChase]

The way you can help is by posting your thoughts as the come. Silent people are hard to sort, and this good for scum. Even if your ideas are wrong (most of ours end up being wrong if you go back and look), sharing your thoughts helps town look into your mindset which is how we sort you into scum and town.

Thanks! I'm glad it's you Tom saying this, because you are pro-town in my eyes. It's easier to take advice mid-game when we are on the same team

Just do what I do commander: try and think a little. Read and reason. Then (most importantly) explain my intuitions and reasoning to myself and others by writing it. Do that, and you’re helping town.

Keep Bunny's advice in mind. This was a bad night for us. Not just two town, but one of our biggest contributors. RIP Bunn you will be missed.

[KalelChase]

##vote Kalel

Tom - Don't think I noticed you were scumleaning me. Can I get a justification from you, or is this a 'gut' thing?

[KalelChase]

Just following the town leader here.

##vote purple

As cool as ND has been, please make your own case. You got anything other than sheeping ItsHos?

[KalelChase]

I also find it interesting that I may be the only one to have a scumlean on Flav and since I have brought that up he has been nowhere to be found.

I've had Flav on my list as well. Would have to dig through to list for the justifications. Will do so before putting in my vote.

[ND]

100% agree and @Hosuke if you are going to vote who I am voting for then you need to state your reasons for such and that goes for all of you. Anyone who does that should be examined critically.

[Chaqa]

I want to take my time and think about why Damo was targeted and what I can figure out when combined with my reaction test info.

Bunny was obvious town and I’m sad to see him go.

The fact xorxes, Tom, Vecna haven’t been fear killed yet means there’s likely scum in there. Probably 2.

[Temasek22]

Hosu, actually start playing pal...

Chaqa's post makes me wonder, how was damo killed instead of the usual ones like xorx/Vecna? Did he false crumb or something, or did Jack just try his chances? Could either, or both xorx and Vecna be mafia? I'm gonna take a closer look later.

I still hate how Hosu's vote turned out, I know he's horrible as town, but still...

##vote itsh

[Temasek22]

##VOTE CMDRLIKELY

Adios

Obligatory: "please elaborate @ND".

The plan as far as I thought was to lynch Chaqa then ND. Either way, let's cancel that plan. We probably all agree that we don't want to lose another town so we need a strong scum lean. I'm no longer comfortable with lynching Jekyll to get Hyde. We need ND for Jekyll. Chaqa I'm not so sure we need. I'm still on the fence.

Why are people saying lynch ND. Why not lynch Chaqa? I'm talking to you Temasek and Purplecow.

Letting ND live past today would mean another NK, while Chaqa has already retracted his claim and to be fair seems townie.