MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[BunnyGo]

##CALL ALL LURKERS

When you do post, please let us know if you were roleblocked, or if someone tried to kill you at night.

Until then, ##VOTE XORXES

[damo666]

I have a feeling Damo is in the Burke and Hare team...

Was the feeling just because he said Moriarty team looks stronger? Do you still think the same after Bob's flip (damo was reluctant to lynch Bob and wanted to lynch Vapor instead)?

To me it's a weird comment to come from a town. It's look more like a member of a scumteam that resents the other team being stronger. But it's a really weak reason to scumread someone, I didn't even intend to vote him. But his defensive reaction, even voting me, could be a signal I have hit something.

Why is it weird? I was simply answering Demon's question.

[Vecna]

I put a little trap in my post by purposefully confusing who Tom had replaced. The fact Frost doesn't realize this indicates to me he isn/t paying super close attention to the game, which is actually a town tell to me.

Yeah, thought something was off lol. Since I'm moving out of my dormitory for Thanksgiving break and the general annoyingness of dynamic programming/heteronuclear molecular orbitals/integrals/number theory congruences they're all messing with my brain, probably why I missed it. tbh in other games of mafia generally my town playstyle is a lot quieter than my mafia one, since in general people think of mafia as trying to stay in the shadows and town as trying to confirm themselves.

Still a little confused about the votes for Chaqa. He's all but confirmed. Very confused as to whether ND is trying to get himself killed, I don't like his playstyle.

##VOTE ND

I dont think we should need to decide today, its not going to help, and the real Dr. Jekyll still has one more day to do things, and is LIKELY going to be NKed this night anyways, their not wasting an NK to not end up offing Dr. Jekyll. I think its about time we move on, from this absolute nonsense, there is literally no reason for us to go after a possible Dr. Jekyll until DAY 3, so how about we all lay off and chill out

Were not going after a potential Dr Jekyll, were going after a potential scum or Jack here.

Theres like, 3-4 possible scenario's here.

1a: Random nightkills that hit a combination of Chaqa, Commuter, docsave, Hyde hitting Jack. Scum team B withheld their roleblock and was hoping scumteam A would strongman Chaqa, and for some reason was really afraid of hyde and made a backup plan of ND CC'ing him to try and get him lynched.

1b: Random nightkills that hit a combination of Chaqa, Commuter, docsave, Hyde hitting Jack. ND was the docsave and was actually roleblocked and killed. ND is trying some shit gambit to see how people will react if he CC's Chaqa. Roleswap shenanigans? Who knows.

2: Chaqa is just scum or Jack that for whatever reason decided to claim J&H. Both scumteams targeted either ND or the commuter (assuming a docsave wouldve claimed by now) and ND was indeed roleblocked stopping the Hyde kill.

3: ND is right about Chaqa's iq and chaqa is town that fakeclaimed J&H. Somehow the doctor decided to save him as well. Bullets found their way to chaqa/ND/whomever.

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1A seems pretty unlikely to me. I dont think ND comes out of the gates that early LAUGHING and going for it straight away the way he did. Scum ND couldnt have known that noone was gonna claim a docsave. Also, him sacrificing himself to lynch someone that might get lynched soon anyway? Especially Chaqa? No way, his ego is too big.

1B: This could actually be going on. I have no idea who would ever docsave him, but if that did happen, id totally see ND just make an even bigger spectacle of the whole situation to force more attention on himself.

2: Seems the most likely. It fits. Chaqa being on team Moriarty is totally in line with how he played around the whole bob wagon as well.

3: I really doubt this is what happened. Itd be beyond stupid, and way too late now to retract.

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I dont see how were not just speedlynching Chaqa here.

In every scenario it is what has to happen. If he does flip J&H, too bad it removes some interesting play/info down the line, but most people were going to be whining about lynching him tomorrow anyway. Instead then we can lynch scum Nd tomorrow.

IF ND is shitclaiming some gambit, he's not gonna stop it untill he's seen were actually about to lynch Chaqa, so we still wanna speed that shit up so we can use the rest of the day in a useful manner.

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote Count 2.4

Chaqa(7) - Vecna, ND*, Tom Bombadil, dargorygel, Temasek22, Kitsune, Bozotheclown
ND(4) - Chaqa, frostwind, CmdrLikely, ItsHosuke
bo_sox48(2) - bozotheclown, FlaviusAetius
frostwind(1) - DemonRHK
Tom Bombadil(1) - xorxes
Xorxes(1) - BunnyGo 

Unvoted: Damo666

CHAQA is set to be lynched.

Day 2 still has more than enough time left.

[Vecna]

On an hour and a half to sober up on a bus ride home I realize my GM calls were fucking dumb and jack didn’t get a chance to kill last night. I’m an idiot.

Conversely, anyone voting ND or Chaqa right now is FUCKING STUPID.

Hyde doesn’t kill N2. Make the scum sort that shit out.

I do not see why we can count on the mafia to take care of this.

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote Tom

Think about it

I want an explanation for this. I can live with xorxes - he has an explanation. Though conveniently it isn't one I can counter since I'm not Vapor. I don't know why he said what he said. It didn't strike me as off, but then again I'm looking at it through the lens of knowing I am town - so I'm not holding it against xorx.

answer my question @tom
What are your impressions after seeing Vapor's role?
Do you think Vapor played it smart, or were you surprised by how he did it?

I don’t think Vapor played wel or poorly. It’s hard to judge - people vote for the smallest things D1 because there is so little information out

[xorxes]

##VOTE Chaqa

ND's claim is the more believable one.

[Vecna]

Man you really are playing like a wet noodle again Xorxes

[Vecna]

wheres the spice?

[BionicMole]

You mafia bastards really thought it would be that easy?

Come on now. I am a LITERAL GOD BITCHES

Calm down, you’re starting to turn orange.

It worked as I thought it would and the result of my play is evident. No deaths. Anyone can read through my run posts they all had a purpose almost each had a breadcrumb to some PR. I made it obvious to scum and they took the bait.

His role is yuge. Massive.

...your jokes are not lost on me

https://tenor.com/yiQN.gif

[Vecna]

Sadly mine are

[damo666]

So while I wont live long at least I bought the town a night of no deaths and a fighting chance. Lynch me or chaqa it doesn't matter I can't save myself again n2 but yeah I am jeckle

ok we can discuss this later, today we should just focus on lynching someone else and just ignore chaqa and ND

but chaqa is saying she saved herself and ate literally everything(very doubtful)
and ND is saying he ate everything(RBing and NK)(very doubtful)

I think their both lying

Good grief. I hope flav isn't town.

[rdrivera2005]

Of the two claims, ND claiming RB and save which explain at least two deaths not happening (maybe even the three if both Magia targeted him) is the most believable. We will have to sort this anyway, I don't think Mafia will use a NK in any of the claimants.

So ##vote Chaqa

[rdrivera2005]

Was the feeling just because he said Moriarty team looks stronger? Do you still think the same after Bob's flip (damo was reluctant to lynch Bob and wanted to lynch Vapor instead)?

To me it's a weird comment to come from a town. It's look more like a member of a scumteam that resents the other team being stronger. But it's a really weak reason to scumread someone, I didn't even intend to vote him. But his defensive reaction, even voting me, could be a signal I have hit something.

Why is it weird? I was simply answering Demon's question.

I didn't see Demon question on the moment I answer (it was just a quick answer under a feeling I had while reading, almost a joke, like "it will be funny if Damo is on the other team and scumsliped"). And my scumread on you was because of your overreaction on me.

[BunnyGo]

There is one way both could be telling the truth about their PMs (not their claims). That is if Watson agreed that ND was a likely target. Then ND would be saved by our Doctor. And Chaq for some reason had a scum team decide to waste their NK by testing his hard claim of using his powers on himself.

Still doesn’t make much sense. Just thinking.

[damo666]

We cannot rely on on of Chaqa ND getting NKd, we must lynch.

Of the two ND is much more impressive so ##vote Chaqa.

As for motive I think the false claimant is either

i) sacrificial VT (though I don't like the play) OR
ii) a goon ensuring town lose 2 day's VCA

Other observations:

Frost looks well dodgy.

Kitsune very townish.

Could EMC be 3p yet again? Jack Einstein?

I haven't found any crumbs.

##end

[damo666]

* on one (not 'on on'

[damo666]

*)

ffs

[damo666]

To me it's a weird comment to come from a town. It's look more like a member of a scumteam that resents the other team being stronger. But it's a really weak reason to scumread someone, I didn't even intend to vote him. But his defensive reaction, even voting me, could be a signal I have hit something.

Why is it weird? I was simply answering Demon's question.

I didn't see Demon question on the moment I answer (it was just a quick answer under a feeling I had while reading, almost a joke, like "it will be funny if Damo is on the other team and scumsliped"). And my scumread on you was because of your overreaction on me.

Ok. Can we drop this now? FWIW I'm pretty neutral on you.

[BionicMole]

I'm going to take a few hours and relax. Let's get more people on to weigh in and wait for the inevitable secon counter-claim, because that would be hilarious.

Also - am I the only one who had no idea Jack's kill was even-nights? I completely missed that.

How did you miss this fact at this point? Its clearly stated in the rolls and has been mentioned a few times in the thread. Very suspect