M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[Vecna]

But Xorxes, I do like the way youre thinking

[worcej]

Not that I mind an end vote, tomorrow, probably...
But here is what the document says about his 'power.'

From the Assassin PM: "You begin the game with a special assassin’s gun. It is used as a night-kill (and therefore can be roleblocked), and while using it, you cannot be seen by a Tracker or Watcher. "

of course he might actually have received a gun, but again, i think he would have already used it, OR he doesn't yet know who to trigger.

I don't yet know. It will be a 50-50 if Squigs doesn't help me. And then they have to guess right who I want them to kill. So odds are still wildly in town's favor.

If Squigs helps you, wouldn't that effectively be throwing the game for his team? The likelihood of him and his team winning with an assassin 'win' is next to none.

[worcej]

This is that game where xorxes needed to be killed N1

Yes... my fault. Although I still sorta cling to the idea that it was a good first night choice... the REAALLLLLY bad luck was my choice of damo.

Sorry damo.

If I had done it on purpose, you could consider it revenge for your bomb-killing me N1 a few games ago.

Sidenote: I was SUPER sad you died before you could use your role in that game. That role was going to be awesome...

[worcej]

I have some thoughts on Worcej's allignment and his stated clear stuff. Its suddenly becoming quite blurry that he is what is potentially the obvious thing, but that went out the window with some claims.

Whar are your thoughts on worcej the friendly philosoraptor?

You're very good lol

[dargorygel]

This is that game where xorxes needed to be killed N1

Yes... my fault. Although I still sorta cling to the idea that it was a good first night choice... the REAALLLLLY bad luck was my choice of damo.

Sorry damo.

If I had done it on purpose, you could consider it revenge for your bomb-killing me N1 a few games ago.

Sidenote: I was SUPER sad you died before you could use your role in that game. That role was going to be awesome...

You should have started the game over

[BunnyGo]

BG, once you put ##END after a vote it will end the phase quicker if the majority does it

this is so that xorxes doesn't shoot again D4 If he gets his target N3

Assassin gun is NK only. I understand your point of it were not.

I don’t see why vote End.

[worcej]

I am still stuck on if Squigs does tell Xorxes his team, then that is 100% game-throwing and against the rules.

It isn't clear, since the mafia win-con says 'You win once nothing can prevent your team from dominating Memetown.', but if they are all dead then they are officially not dominating Memetown.

[Squigs44]

So how does this work Xorxes? I tell you my two teammates, and you kill the one you need. Then you somehow tell us your target without town figuring it out and stopping it?

[xorxes]

BG, once you put ##END after a vote it will end the phase quicker if the majority does it

this is so that xorxes doesn't shoot again D4 If he gets his target N3

Assassin gun is NK only. I understand your point of it were not.

I don’t see why vote End.

This is a semi-open setup. Some roles are aware of some secret weapons that other roles don.'t know about.

[Squigs44]

I mean, we have talked about conceding, but we cant concede while assassin and infector are alive. Helping Xorxes win ends the game quicker though

[xorxes]

So how does this work Xorxes? I tell you my two teammates, and you kill the one you need. Then you somehow tell us your target without town figuring it out and stopping it?

Basically, yes. You don't need to name names. Jost say something like "the one with the longest name iis the hooker" or whatever you prefer. Something I can use to tell Hooker appart from Janitor.

As for which townie you have to get killed, that will be more complicated. I'll try to think of a way to let you know. So many eavesdroppers...

[Chaqa]

##GM Note

Had some questions on this. As long as players are playing in a way they believe will progress their win condition, they are allowed to employ any strategy they want.

[dargorygel]

So how does this work Xorxes? I tell you my two teammates, and you kill the one you need. Then you somehow tell us your target without town figuring it out and stopping it?

Basically, yes. You don't need to name names. Jost say something like "the one with the longest name iis the hooker" or whatever you prefer. Something I can use to tell Hooker appart from Janitor.

As for which townie you have to get killed, that will be more complicated. I'll try to think of a way to let you know. So many eavesdroppers...

You could whisper it to me... And I'll whisper it to them

[worcej]

##GM Note

Had some questions on this. As long as players are playing in a way they believe will progress their win condition, they are allowed to employ any strategy they want.

Does the game automatically end if the assassin wins?

[xorxes]

So how does this work Xorxes? I tell you my two teammates, and you kill the one you need. Then you somehow tell us your target without town figuring it out and stopping it?

Basically, yes. You don't need to name names. Jost say something like "the one with the longest name iis the hooker" or whatever you prefer. Something I can use to tell Hooker appart from Janitor.

As for which townie you have to get killed, that will be more complicated. I'll try to think of a way to let you know. So many eavesdroppers...

You could whisper it to me... And I'll whisper it to them

Shwshrswshrsh, shrwrshsrwsh shrwhshrwsh!

[worcej]

##call GM - see above question.

If the answer is 'no', then I don't see how the Mafia can advance their win condition by giving out their team members.

[Squigs44]

So how does this work Xorxes? I tell you my two teammates, and you kill the one you need. Then you somehow tell us your target without town figuring it out and stopping it?

Basically, yes. You don't need to name names. Jost say something like "the one with the longest name iis the hooker" or whatever you prefer. Something I can use to tell Hooker appart from Janitor.

As for which townie you have to get killed, that will be more complicated. I'll try to think of a way to let you know. So many eavesdroppers...

You could whisper it to me... And I'll whisper it to them

whisper whisper Hooker whisper whisper

[BunnyGo]

##call GM - see above question.

If the answer is 'no', then I don't see how the Mafia can advance their win condition by giving out their team members.

No. But town cannot win. And if mafia give out team then they cannot win. Infector still can win.

I am not the GM. Just going based on roles pamphlet and precious GM comments.

[Chaqa]

##GM Note

Had some questions on this. As long as players are playing in a way they believe will progress their win condition, they are allowed to employ any strategy they want.

Does the game automatically end if the assassin wins?

If the Assassin wins, he exits the game. The Town would thereafter be unable to win. The game has not yet ended at this point - Mafia, Infector, or NK Tanner could still win, though Town could not.

The Mafia's win condition does not strictly conflict with any other win condition.

[xorxes]

##GM Note

Had some questions on this. As long as players are playing in a way they believe will progress their win condition, they are allowed to employ any strategy they want.

Does the game automatically end if the assassin wins?

This has been answered. Town loses but strangely enogh the game continues.