M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2981 Post by xorxes » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:10 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:59 pm
Probably claim and activate it.
That would be Bunny, if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2982 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:10 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:02 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:45 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:36 pm

None of those roles are counterclaimable. Think about it.
There are roles we know are in play that can be CCed. I am sure the mafia can figure it out.
Tracker and Commuter, but someone already knows who commuter is (because Kit knew commuter existed).
No, Kitsune said she received the PM confirming odd/even selection, she did not say anyone was notified of a failed action. Besides, magnet and vengeful are not verifiable, and you claim those are town roles.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2983 Post by Vaporwave » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:11 pm

D4 we need to use the ##END after our votes

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2984 Post by xorxes » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:12 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:10 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:02 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:45 pm


There are roles we know are in play that can be CCed. I am sure the mafia can figure it out.
Tracker and Commuter, but someone already knows who commuter is (because Kit knew commuter existed).
No, Kitsune said she received the PM confirming odd/even selection, she did not say anyone was notified of a failed action. Besides, magnet and vengeful are not verifiable, and you claim those are town roles.
That was one of the late PMs. She already knew about commuter before that.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2985 Post by xorxes » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:14 pm

Magnet is certainly verifiable. Vengeful just kills their counterclaimer.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2986 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:25 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:14 pm
Magnet is certainly verifiable. Vengeful just kills their counterclaimer.
We were really lucky with this scan on Xorxes (congrats Flav), I am pretty sure he knows every person's role at this point.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2987 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:26 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:14 pm
Magnet is certainly verifiable. Vengeful just kills their counterclaimer.
Magnet is only verifiable if they claim before it is used, which they can't do right now.

If vengeful kills their counterclaim:

N3: xorxes shoots town, mafia kill town: 8-3-2
D4: lynch xorxes: 8-3-1
N4: NK town: 7-3-1
D5: lynch Squigs: 7-2-1
N5: NK town: 6-2-1
D6: lynch infector by mistake: 6-2-0
N6: NK town: 5-2-0
D7: mislynch town in CC battle: 4-2-0
N7: NK town: 3-2-0
D8: mislynch town in vengeful CC battle, vengeful kills mafia CC: 2-1-0
N8: NK town: 1-1-0
mafia wins

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2988 Post by xorxes » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:28 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:25 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:14 pm
Magnet is certainly verifiable. Vengeful just kills their counterclaimer.
We were really lucky with this scan on Xorxes (congrats Flav), I am pretty sure he knows every person's role at this point.
Not everyone's, no.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2989 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:25 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:14 pm
Magnet is certainly verifiable. Vengeful just kills their counterclaimer.
We were really lucky with this scan on Xorxes (congrats Flav), I am pretty sure he knows every person's role at this point.
There is no way he can be sure of everyone's role, even if he can probably guess all the town roles.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2990 Post by xorxes » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:30 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:26 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:14 pm
Magnet is certainly verifiable. Vengeful just kills their counterclaimer.
Magnet is only verifiable if they claim before it is used, which they can't do right now.

If vengeful kills their counterclaim:

N3: xorxes shoots town, mafia kill town: 8-3-2
D4: lynch xorxes: 8-3-1
N4: NK town: 7-3-1
D5: lynch Squigs: 7-2-1
N5: NK town: 6-2-1
D6: lynch infector by mistake: 6-2-0
N6: NK town: 5-2-0
D7: mislynch town in CC battle: 4-2-0
N7: NK town: 3-2-0
D8: mislynch town in vengeful CC battle, vengeful kills mafia CC: 2-1-0
N8: NK town: 1-1-0
mafia wins
Why would you leave the vengefuls for last?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2991 Post by xorxes » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:32 pm

In any case, my kill will be mafia.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2992 Post by dargorygel » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:33 pm

I know it's not logically likely... but IF there is a gladiator, challenge xorxes.
And again... if ye has yerself a gun... shoot ole xorxes.

I've figured out my push-around switch.

Here we go...

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2993 Post by dargorygel » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:34 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:32 pm
In any case, my kill will be mafia.
... that's... kind of you.... :eyeroll:

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2994 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:35 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:30 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:26 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:14 pm
Magnet is certainly verifiable. Vengeful just kills their counterclaimer.
Magnet is only verifiable if they claim before it is used, which they can't do right now.

If vengeful kills their counterclaim:

N3: xorxes shoots town, mafia kill town: 8-3-2
D4: lynch xorxes: 8-3-1
N4: NK town: 7-3-1
D5: lynch Squigs: 7-2-1
N5: NK town: 6-2-1
D6: lynch infector by mistake: 6-2-0
N6: NK town: 5-2-0
D7: mislynch town in CC battle: 4-2-0
N7: NK town: 3-2-0
D8: mislynch town in vengeful CC battle, vengeful kills mafia CC: 2-1-0
N8: NK town: 1-1-0
mafia wins
Why would you leave the vengefuls for last?
It does matter, the worst case results for town are the same no matter what the lynch order.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2995 Post by xorxes » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:36 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:33 pm
I know it's not logically likely... but IF there is a gladiator, challenge xorxes.
And again... if ye has yerself a gun... shoot ole xorxes.

I've figured out my push-around switch.

Here we go...
I already gave the full list. No gladiator.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2996 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:37 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:32 pm
In any case, my kill will be mafia.
There is no way you can guarantee that with the driver.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2997 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:38 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:36 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:33 pm
I know it's not logically likely... but IF there is a gladiator, challenge xorxes.
And again... if ye has yerself a gun... shoot ole xorxes.

I've figured out my push-around switch.

Here we go...
I already gave the full list. No gladiator.
There is no reason to trust you gave us the real missing roles.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2998 Post by dargorygel » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:38 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:36 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:33 pm
I know it's not logically likely... but IF there is a gladiator, challenge xorxes.
And again... if ye has yerself a gun... shoot ole xorxes.

I've figured out my push-around switch.

Here we go...
I already gave the full list. No gladiator.
Yeah... I get that... but I am enough of a student of logical failures (and your cleverness) to have just an inkling of doubt. What did I forget?

Also... fwiw... I think the gladiator would not have been able to resist using his power.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2999 Post by dargorygel » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:42 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:37 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:32 pm
In any case, my kill will be mafia.
There is no way you can guarantee that with the driver.
and am i right in thinking the commuter MIGHT effect this?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#3000 Post by xorxes » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:43 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:37 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:32 pm
In any case, my kill will be mafia.
There is no way you can guarantee that with the driver.
My night shot is instantaneous, not in the adjudication order.

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