M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[bozotheclown]

HUZZAH IT SAYS XORXES IS HOSTILE TO TOWN
AKA ASSASSIN
OR SCUM

Wait scan is instantaneous? Even better! Let's all kill xorxes. He's not scum, we confirmed that, so he must be either assassin or infector. Consider my vote on xorxes if he's not dead by then. We need to kill assassin as quick as possible, and this is our best lead.

xorxes is not cleared as mafia, and Squigs knowing he would scan hostile seems to indicate he is mafia instead of assassin.

[BobMcBob]

HUZZAH IT SAYS XORXES IS HOSTILE TO TOWN
AKA ASSASSIN
OR SCUM

Wait scan is instantaneous? Even better! Let's all kill xorxes. He's not scum, we confirmed that, so he must be either assassin or infector. Consider my vote on xorxes if he's not dead by then. We need to kill assassin as quick as possible, and this is our best lead.

xorxes is not cleared as mafia, and Squigs knowing he would scan hostile seems to indicate he is mafia instead of assassin.

How is xorxes potentially mafia? Mafia attempted to NK him but he was switched with damo and damo died instead. Unless some particularly odd shenannigans with other roles were going on, I can't see how xorxes is mafia.

[BobMcBob]

Okay, now that xorxes is also guaranteed scum, my next best read is Ezio, as explained in my post a few pages ago.

[bozotheclown]

Wait scan is instantaneous? Even better! Let's all kill xorxes. He's not scum, we confirmed that, so he must be either assassin or infector. Consider my vote on xorxes if he's not dead by then. We need to kill assassin as quick as possible, and this is our best lead.

xorxes is not cleared as mafia, and Squigs knowing he would scan hostile seems to indicate he is mafia instead of assassin.

How is xorxes potentially mafia? Mafia attempted to NK him but he was switched with damo and damo died instead. Unless some particularly odd shenannigans with other roles were going on, I can't see how xorxes is mafia.

xorxes is often an early NK target, and therefore often a target for protective roles. The mafia could have NKed and RBed him hoping the NK would be driven or he would be saved in some other way. dargorygel used the word "drove" in a D1 post, so they may have guessed he was the driver, and knew it was likely dargorygel would drive xorxes.

[BobMcBob]

Wait, infector's not even considered hostile. That means xorxes must be assassin unless there's something I haven't thought of. Bozo, why do you think xorxes might be mafia?

[bozotheclown]

Wait, infector's not even considered hostile. That means xorxes must be assassin unless there's something I haven't thought of. Bozo, why do you think xorxes might be mafia?

See previous post.

[BobMcBob]

xorxes is not cleared as mafia, and Squigs knowing he would scan hostile seems to indicate he is mafia instead of assassin.

How is xorxes potentially mafia? Mafia attempted to NK him but he was switched with damo and damo died instead. Unless some particularly odd shenannigans with other roles were going on, I can't see how xorxes is mafia.

xorxes is often an early NK target, and therefore often a target for protective roles. The mafia could have NKed and RBed him hoping the NK would be driven or he would be saved in some other way. dargorygel used the word "drove" in a D1 post, so they may have guessed he was the driver, and knew it was likely dargorygel would drive xorxes.

So you're saying the mafia may have killed xorxes (mafia), hoping that he would be protected? It's possible, but I say we should probably lynch him anyway. Do you have a better idea? We have no other confirmed hostiles except for Squigs, and we know he's not assassin.

[bozotheclown]

Wait, infector's not even considered hostile. That means xorxes must be assassin unless there's something I haven't thought of. Bozo, why do you think xorxes might be mafia?

Also, there is this:

https://imgflip.com/i/3fav0l

Squigs said xorxes was scum before Flavius revealed the scan result, so xorxes is either mafia or Squigs was correctly predicting xorxes is the assassin.

[bozotheclown]

How is xorxes potentially mafia? Mafia attempted to NK him but he was switched with damo and damo died instead. Unless some particularly odd shenannigans with other roles were going on, I can't see how xorxes is mafia.

xorxes is often an early NK target, and therefore often a target for protective roles. The mafia could have NKed and RBed him hoping the NK would be driven or he would be saved in some other way. dargorygel used the word "drove" in a D1 post, so they may have guessed he was the driver, and knew it was likely dargorygel would drive xorxes.

So you're saying the mafia may have killed xorxes (mafia), hoping that he would be protected? It's possible, but I say we should probably lynch him anyway. Do you have a better idea? We have no other confirmed hostiles except for Squigs, and we know he's not assassin.

Ideally we would lynch the assassin first.

[bozotheclown]

https://imgflip.com/i/3faury

Would you like to confirm xorxes as mafia?

[Squigs44]

Attention assassin:

I really don't want town to win after basically outting themselves on day 2. So if you know who your two targets are, you could kill one of them tonight and we kill the other. After all the info that has been shared I *think* I know who the assassin is, so if you could try to get that info to me discretely I will be looking for it. I know you don't want to give yourself away, but if you can win tonight lets make it happen.

[Squigs44]

https://imgflip.com/i/3faury

Would you like to confirm xorxes as mafia?

Now why would I do that?

[Squigs44]

Attention assassin:

I really don't want town to win after basically outting themselves on day 2. So if you know who your two targets are, you could kill one of them tonight and we kill the other. After all the info that has been shared I *think* I know who the assassin is, so if you could try to get that info to me discretely I will be looking for it. I know you don't want to give yourself away, but if you can win tonight lets make it happen.

How about the first name you mention after this post is the person you want us mafia to kill?

[BobMcBob]

I mean, there is potential Squigs is lying, but ok. Who do you suggest we lynch instead? And let's be on the lookout for who the assassin might be and if they respond to Squigs' call. If you have a gun, do not shoot yet.

[bozotheclown]

Attention assassin:

I really don't want town to win after basically outting themselves on day 2. So if you know who your two targets are, you could kill one of them tonight and we kill the other. After all the info that has been shared I *think* I know who the assassin is, so if you could try to get that info to me discretely I will be looking for it. I know you don't want to give yourself away, but if you can win tonight lets make it happen.

How about the first name you mention after this post is the person you want us mafia to kill?

Luckily we still have the driver.

[BobMcBob]

Attention assassin:

I really don't want town to win after basically outting themselves on day 2. So if you know who your two targets are, you could kill one of them tonight and we kill the other. After all the info that has been shared I *think* I know who the assassin is, so if you could try to get that info to me discretely I will be looking for it. I know you don't want to give yourself away, but if you can win tonight lets make it happen.

How about the first name you mention after this post is the person you want us mafia to kill?

Luckily we still have the driver.

Ah yes the driver. Dargo has *definitely* been MVC so far. Dargo, look for clues on who to drive tonight.

[bozotheclown]

I mean, there is potential Squigs is lying, but ok. Who do you suggest we lynch instead? And let's be on the lookout for who the assassin might be and if they respond to Squigs' call. If you have a gun, do not shoot yet.

If the JOAT still has his shot, and the Item Smith gun is in town's hands, hopefully we can get the assassin before N3 ends.

[bozotheclown]

OK, I'm all caught up now.

So assuming everyone who has claimed is telling the truth (which is plausible if not 100% certain), I'm left with four Mafia, an Assassin, an Infector and a townie in:

Squigs
Ike
Temasek
Vecna
Ezio
Vapor
Prado

I'm taking Vecna's claim as a joke for now, as it doesn't seem to have been made in earnest and it's exactly the type of claim that can be brushed off later as "I was obviously joking". I will take him off the list of lynch-first only if he confirms that he has a verifiable claim in a more believable manner.

If the Squigs-Vapor connection to Jamie checks out, and given that I have a reason that I don't want to reveal for the moment to suspect that Prado might be town, that leaves: Ike, Temasek, Vecna and Ezio as my candidates for Assassin. If I have to choose three, the least likely of those I would say is Ezio.

So here xorxes implies he has some information that TrPrado is town. He may have been trying to bring TrPrado along as a town clear, so xorxes and TrPrado may be the last two mafia. Vecna and Vapor have both indicated they have confirmable town roles. If true, that would make Ezio and Ike the third parties.

Or, I could be all wrong and xorxes is the assassin who was trying to pocket TrPrado for some reason, Squigs guessed xorxes was the assassin, and Vecna and Vapor have fake confirmable roles.

[bozotheclown]

Wait so he was janitored and also an assassin target? Why did they think to target damo of all people?

Did they target damo?

Didn't they?

Day 2 scum theater?

[bozotheclown]

We know the driver PMs went out late D2, so if xorxes is mafia he would have been wondering why he did not get a message about being driven when he posted this:

Maybe damo was the Magnet that attracted Janitor and Mafia kill to himself?

I know I was only considering 2 possibilities at the time, that damo was the NK target or that he was driven with the NK target. xorxes would have known the first was not true and been questioning if the second was true since he had not received a PM.