M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[bozotheclown]

I wasn’t reading the thread at the time since I didn’t think there’d be a big change. You were my top scum read, I saw on the bot you were leading, I looked away momentarily, and posted in hopes of widening that lead. I wasn’t even aware you had claimed you had a confirmable role.

I had already claimed Medium when you posted this:

Family dinner. No time. Checked the bot, looks good, but I’d be a bit more comfortable with a few more people on bozo. Stay strong.

Call for my lynch when you did not know what was going on was not town indicative.

If I think you're scum and therefore unable to confirm a town role, how am I supposed to imagine you having claimed medium?

You could have read the thread, and if you did not have time and were uninformed, you could have stopped trying to get my lynched.

[TrPrado]

I had already claimed Medium when you posted this:
Call for my lynch when you did not know what was going on was not town indicative.

If I think you're scum and therefore unable to confirm a town role, how am I supposed to imagine you having claimed medium?

You could have read the thread, and if you did not have time and were uninformed, you could have stopped trying to get my lynched.

Or I could not do that. Was it ideal? Maybe not. But it was between someone who I felt was being wrongfully and prematurely killed vs someone I consistently saw as scum, so I felt it was urgent enough to post something even if I hadn't read.

[bozotheclown]

If I think you're scum and therefore unable to confirm a town role, how am I supposed to imagine you having claimed medium?

You could have read the thread, and if you did not have time and were uninformed, you could have stopped trying to get my lynched.

Or I could not do that. Was it ideal? Maybe not. But it was between someone who I felt was being wrongfully and prematurely killed vs someone I consistently saw as scum, so I felt it was urgent enough to post something even if I hadn't read.

Why not just leave it up to those who were online and caught up with what was happening?

[TrPrado]

You could have read the thread, and if you did not have time and were uninformed, you could have stopped trying to get my lynched.

Or I could not do that. Was it ideal? Maybe not. But it was between someone who I felt was being wrongfully and prematurely killed vs someone I consistently saw as scum, so I felt it was urgent enough to post something even if I hadn't read.

Why not just leave it up to those who were online and caught up with what was happening?

Leave it up to who exactly? Why would I want to leave anything up to anyone else? Why would I want to keep silent when there's the possibility for scum to try and influence the narrative?

[FlaviusAetius]

would prefer for a pure-breed town to be revived, not someone that can change alignments

I don't think we need to waste Medium power right now just to prove Bozo claim. Keep it for later when it can be really usefull.

Each time I look the roles and the POE, Tema, Ezio, Vecna and Squigs look the worst.

NO, he uses or he dies. End of story. He brings back bosox, we already talked about this dont change the plan

[bozotheclown]

Leave it up to the town who were online and aware of what was going on.

[xorxes]

If Jamie's buddies tried signalling him it's pretty well concealed. I would've gotten to reading sooner but I took a lot of breaks from reading because my strategy of pulling up peterbot and using Ctrl+F to search for Jamie turned out to be super boring.

Candidates for possibility so far are Squigs, Bob, and Vapor.

I remember someone saying something along the lines that Jamiet was upset when bo_sox was shot, but I can't remember who it was or what they said exactly.

I searched for any post with

Jamie* | bo*
Jamie* | Zoidberg
Jamie* | doctor*

Nothing came up

I think this is what I remembered:

Jamie show actual grief at the loss (#252), but then asks bunny if it was them (deflecting and scummy? #253) and retracts it (#255)

[FlaviusAetius]

Concerning: Bob, Ezio, rivera, Squigles, Tem, Prado, Vecna, Ike

rest are confirmed or In the process of being confirmed

My take for assassin:

It's not Ike, he self-voted, I think Ike might be town, there was that role frog that should have appeared, anyway Ike self-voting and being so careless doesn't point to scum or assassin imo, his team would have slapped his wrists

Vecna - I hate how Vecna is delaying everything, I think we should deffo lynch him next day, I want for peeps to use any of their ability on a Vecna, he needs to be sorted asap, could be L'assassino!

Prado - He's been a defender, a true justice warrior, could be a heavy-duty scum role who needs to keep up activity and pretense, aye Prado ze master of ze scum team

Tem - guys, it's whimsical, but Tem doesn't feel scum to me, his reactions are too on point for him to be fake, could be 3p or maybe assassin?

Squiggyboop - A contender for assassino and part of scum team, same with Prado, great engaging posts but we need to remember both scumbos and assassino need to appear town to last longer

rivera - I'm so torn on rivera, I wanna trust him, this is one of his best performances in a game, regardless of his alignment. I've been so flip-flop on rivera, but my final take is: RIVERA, I TRUST YOU, so I'll abstain from voting him

Ezio - feels scum or 3rd party, there's nothing townie about this man

Bob - a bit shaky during D2, I'm no longer confident in Bob, but I will say that I kinda doubt that both my ex-mates, have randed scumbos again, so only 1 of Prado or Bob is scum

There is not anner, as confirmed by Kitsune, thus meaning Ezio is either; Assasin, Infector or MAFIA, LETS LYNCH HIM

[TrPrado]

Leave it up to the town who were online and aware of what was going on.

The members of town I thought were wrong or otherwise misguided on the BM wagon?

[TrPrado]

Concerning: Bob, Ezio, rivera, Squigles, Tem, Prado, Vecna, Ike

rest are confirmed or In the process of being confirmed

My take for assassin:

It's not Ike, he self-voted, I think Ike might be town, there was that role frog that should have appeared, anyway Ike self-voting and being so careless doesn't point to scum or assassin imo, his team would have slapped his wrists

Vecna - I hate how Vecna is delaying everything, I think we should deffo lynch him next day, I want for peeps to use any of their ability on a Vecna, he needs to be sorted asap, could be L'assassino!

Prado - He's been a defender, a true justice warrior, could be a heavy-duty scum role who needs to keep up activity and pretense, aye Prado ze master of ze scum team

Tem - guys, it's whimsical, but Tem doesn't feel scum to me, his reactions are too on point for him to be fake, could be 3p or maybe assassin?

Squiggyboop - A contender for assassino and part of scum team, same with Prado, great engaging posts but we need to remember both scumbos and assassino need to appear town to last longer

rivera - I'm so torn on rivera, I wanna trust him, this is one of his best performances in a game, regardless of his alignment. I've been so flip-flop on rivera, but my final take is: RIVERA, I TRUST YOU, so I'll abstain from voting him

Ezio - feels scum or 3rd party, there's nothing townie about this man

Bob - a bit shaky during D2, I'm no longer confident in Bob, but I will say that I kinda doubt that both my ex-mates, have randed scumbos again, so only 1 of Prado or Bob is scum

There is not anner, as confirmed by Kitsune, thus meaning Ezio is either; Assasin, Infector or MAFIA, LETS LYNCH HIM

He should have been able to reveal more details to his analysis on his reaction test by now to be honest. I've been hoping to see more substance from him after that but it's just not there.

[KalelChase]

I remember someone saying something along the lines that Jamiet was upset when bo_sox was shot, but I can't remember who it was or what they said exactly.

I see where you’re going. On my phone right now, will double check before night ends.

Found it:

All I've done is commented on other peoples stuff, so I'll throw up some data to try and initiate a conversation. Take all the below with a grain of salt as I'm no wordsmith. I'll also attempt some intelligence behind it (I'm historically better at tracking the data than analyzing it).

Who shot Bo? So then who had the means, motivation and opportunity to shoot bo?
ROLES
Traitor - use any time (I stick to my 'guns' pun intended that it's in their best interest to fire early because the odds of hitting town is higher).
Item Smith - (can't hand out until night, off the hook)
JOAT - use it any time, candidate
Vig - use it any time, candidate (two bullets)
Assassin - (only at night, off the hook)
Observation - there are a total of 8 bullets, so 7 left.

We know Bo was the Doc. So who said what about him.

Bo started with the 'test'.
Damo jumped on it (#91), Bo reciprocated voting back.
Bozo jumped in with Damo (#98), and argued over M.Claim (or variant there of #114))
Kitsune jumped in on the M.Claim conversation (calmly and politely #142), triggering an actual calm justification from Bo (#159)
Temasek posts about TvS fight (#167) and conversation ensues. TrPrado engages on coin flipping and Bo blows them off (#171)
Flavius (not quite) defended Bo, with the statement "Im 100% against lynching people who dont talk in the first few days, lets focus on active people thank you very much" (#218)
--Post Shot--
Jamie show actual grief at the loss (#252), but then asks bunny if it was them (deflecting and scummy? #253) and retracts it (#255)
Worcej re-posts complement on Bo's strategy (#333)
Vapor comments not about Bo, but about suspicious that it was the Vig, and that they might know who they would be (#364)

So those with negative interactions with Bo may be too obvious, but Damo & Bozo are up front. Kit a bit, but their exchange was polite. TrPrado is an interesting suspect as they were blown off.
Temasek was analyzing their behavior publicly... perhaps there was a vig/JOAT rationale to end that conversation, but that would imply that Temasek was getting close to revealing something?

To highlight, I do have problems differentiating between Scum behavior and Newb/not smart behavior (like my repost of the phrase that must not be posted). So interpret the above as you need, just trying to contribute.

I marked the part of the post that xorxes was referring to.

My post provided value!! I'm a real player now.

Of course I didn't bring up Jamie in my conclusion, and I just noticed Vig only had one bullet, so my bullet count was off, but I don't care... I contributed.

[TrPrado]

I see where you’re going. On my phone right now, will double check before night ends.

Found it:

All I've done is commented on other peoples stuff, so I'll throw up some data to try and initiate a conversation. Take all the below with a grain of salt as I'm no wordsmith. I'll also attempt some intelligence behind it (I'm historically better at tracking the data than analyzing it).

Who shot Bo? So then who had the means, motivation and opportunity to shoot bo?
ROLES
Traitor - use any time (I stick to my 'guns' pun intended that it's in their best interest to fire early because the odds of hitting town is higher).
Item Smith - (can't hand out until night, off the hook)
JOAT - use it any time, candidate
Vig - use it any time, candidate (two bullets)
Assassin - (only at night, off the hook)
Observation - there are a total of 8 bullets, so 7 left.

We know Bo was the Doc. So who said what about him.

Bo started with the 'test'.
Damo jumped on it (#91), Bo reciprocated voting back.
Bozo jumped in with Damo (#98), and argued over M.Claim (or variant there of #114))
Kitsune jumped in on the M.Claim conversation (calmly and politely #142), triggering an actual calm justification from Bo (#159)
Temasek posts about TvS fight (#167) and conversation ensues. TrPrado engages on coin flipping and Bo blows them off (#171)
Flavius (not quite) defended Bo, with the statement "Im 100% against lynching people who dont talk in the first few days, lets focus on active people thank you very much" (#218)
--Post Shot--
Jamie show actual grief at the loss (#252), but then asks bunny if it was them (deflecting and scummy? #253) and retracts it (#255)
Worcej re-posts complement on Bo's strategy (#333)
Vapor comments not about Bo, but about suspicious that it was the Vig, and that they might know who they would be (#364)

So those with negative interactions with Bo may be too obvious, but Damo & Bozo are up front. Kit a bit, but their exchange was polite. TrPrado is an interesting suspect as they were blown off.
Temasek was analyzing their behavior publicly... perhaps there was a vig/JOAT rationale to end that conversation, but that would imply that Temasek was getting close to revealing something?

To highlight, I do have problems differentiating between Scum behavior and Newb/not smart behavior (like my repost of the phrase that must not be posted). So interpret the above as you need, just trying to contribute.

I marked the part of the post that xorxes was referring to.

My post provided value!! I'm a real player now.

Of course I didn't bring up Jamie in my conclusion, and I just noticed Vig only had one bullet, so my bullet count was off, but I don't care... I contributed.

Yeah, it definitely doesn't look as incriminating as I or (presumably) xorxes thought it might when we only kinda remembered that someone had said something like that.

[xorxes]

why does Vecna feels so...trustworthy?

Am I being biased? He hasn't done much, but even him burping 2 or 3 times makes the atmosphere feel safer

Pffffff.... Trustworthy? He feels useless and feigning disinterest, which is not at all how he feels when he's town.

[Vaporwave]

why does Vecna feels so...trustworthy?

Am I being biased? He hasn't done much, but even him burping 2 or 3 times makes the atmosphere feel safer

Pffffff.... Trustworthy? He feels useless and feigning disinterest, which is not at all how he feels when he's town.

he's a got great acting skills, I'll give him that.

Atm, he seems 'real' to me or maybe I'm unable to detect any mischievous vibes

[xorxes]

It occurred to me that xorxes as mafia could have had his teammates NK and janitor him in hopes that he was driven or saved N1. It would not be a bad risk to clear himself with so many protective roles, even without the doctor.

That would also explain why I got my PM so late: I must have already known that I had been driven because otherwise damo could not have been killed and janitored, so Chaqa figured it was not necessary to inform me.

[xorxes]

Okay so one of Jamie/Flav is mafia but probably not both and in the last page Jamie convinced me it was him. Thanks bro

Noo, Jamie is fearful as scum, he will bamboozle all of you

I have no proof that we're dealing with Scumbo Jambo, but your opinion matters to me, Squigs..because guess what? I felt something was a bit 'off' about him

Will abstain myself from leaning him in any direction for now, but I'm curious to know how you've detected scum Jamie

This could very well be Vapor jumping up and down telling Jamie "Look, Squigs knows that you are scum in some mysterious way, and I know that he knows!"

[Vaporwave]

You tend to force your interpretation into my text. This is your 2nd time being wrong

xorxes, do you want to shoot me? Is my role one of your targets

[xorxes]

if I would have been a scum, I wouldn't have called for Jamie's bum to receive bullets 2 times

Unless the plan was to bus Jamiet for towncred.

I'm not sure how that's a signal, Prado. I wanted to know how Squigs knew that Jamie is scum

Did you get an answer?

[FlaviusAetius]

why does Vecna feels so...trustworthy?

Am I being biased? He hasn't done much, but even him burping 2 or 3 times makes the atmosphere feel safer

Pffffff.... Trustworthy? He feels useless and feigning disinterest, which is not at all how he feels when he's town.

dont use meta, and he already said he's going to be more active, these are all non-arguments

[xorxes]

There is not anner, as confirmed by Kitsune, thus meaning Ezio is either; Assasin, Infector or MAFIA, LETS LYNCH HIM

If Ezio ends up being the Hammerer I will be very mad with myself.