M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[Vecna]

You suspect wrong, I like mafia but its not like im gonna sit and stare at my phone while im in a social setting

[BunnyGo]

Still hoping for a town leader for D3, no diss to Bunny, he's been great

but I want one of the confirmed ones that survives to take the bull by its horn and the lion by its tail

Totally agree. I shot my wad and am done. I also have no real clue what I’m doing.

[bozotheclown]

You suspect wrong, I like mafia but its not like im gonna sit and stare at my phone while im in a social setting

If you had checked in, you could have changed your vote when I claimed a town verifiable role so that I was not forced to claim Medium. If Medium is one of the assassin targets, that could turn out to be the difference in the game.

[Vecna]

Dont think its really fair that youre gonna try to blame me for the crappy situation. Plenty of people have RL shit going on and join these games. Its not like its my fault we have like 7 other people softing their role and whatnot.

[TrPrado]

You suspect wrong, I like mafia but its not like im gonna sit and stare at my phone while im in a social setting

If you had checked in, you could have changed your vote when I claimed a town verifiable role so that I was not forced to claim Medium. If Medium is one of the assassin targets, that could turn out to be the difference in the game.

If you’re actually medium, your standards for scum hunting are seriously ridiculous.

[bozotheclown]

Dont think its really fair that youre gonna try to blame me for the crappy situation. Plenty of people have RL shit going on and join these games. Its not like its my fault we have like 7 other people softing their role and whatnot.

It may not be fair, but you were able to vote for me 41 minutes before EOD, but not able to check in at EOD. If you had no time and were not caught up, you could have voted no lynch or self voted like Ike did. Instead you made a vote that put me ahead and significantly contributed to forcing me to claim.

[bozotheclown]

You suspect wrong, I like mafia but its not like im gonna sit and stare at my phone while im in a social setting

If you had checked in, you could have changed your vote when I claimed a town verifiable role so that I was not forced to claim Medium. If Medium is one of the assassin targets, that could turn out to be the difference in the game.

If you’re actually medium, your standards for scum hunting are seriously ridiculous.

If you are town, your method relies very heavily on confirmation bias. After you concluded I was scum D1, in your large D2 post you listed literally over half of my D2 post at the time as scum indicative. No one is that bad as scum that every other one of their posts gives them away.

[bozotheclown]

If you had checked in, you could have changed your vote when I claimed a town verifiable role so that I was not forced to claim Medium. If Medium is one of the assassin targets, that could turn out to be the difference in the game.

If you’re actually medium, your standards for scum hunting are seriously ridiculous.

If you are town, your method relies very heavily on confirmation bias. After you concluded I was scum D1, in your large D2 post you listed literally over half of my D2 post at the time as scum indicative. No one is that bad as scum that every other one of their posts gives them away.

By the way, you could have changed your vote at EOD to prevent me from having to claim my exact role as well. Instead you continued to call for my lynch, even after I claimed Medium.

[bozotheclown]

If Jamie's buddies tried signalling him it's pretty well concealed. I would've gotten to reading sooner but I took a lot of breaks from reading because my strategy of pulling up peterbot and using Ctrl+F to search for Jamie turned out to be super boring.

Candidates for possibility so far are Squigs, Bob, and Vapor.

Why Vapor? Wasn't him the first to call for Vig to shoot Jamiet? This make him hardly a candidate for scum or infector.

I’m reading for candidates for people who might have made a signal for Jamie, and the timeframe for that I generally think would be some time during D1

Signaling would be risky, but this could be an attempt by Squigs to let Jamie know they were on the same team:

Guys, my job interview went very well.

Now, where did we leave off last game?
Oh, right
##vote Jamiet99uk

[TrPrado]

If you’re actually medium, your standards for scum hunting are seriously ridiculous.

If you are town, your method relies very heavily on confirmation bias. After you concluded I was scum D1, in your large D2 post you listed literally over half of my D2 post at the time as scum indicative. No one is that bad as scum that every other one of their posts gives them away.

By the way, you could have changed your vote at EOD to prevent me from having to claim my exact role as well. Instead you continued to call for my lynch, even after I claimed Medium.

I wasn’t reading the thread at the time since I didn’t think there’d be a big change. You were my top scum read, I saw on the bot you were leading, I looked away momentarily, and posted in hopes of widening that lead. I wasn’t even aware you had claimed you had a confirmable role.

[bozotheclown]

It occurred to me that xorxes as mafia could have had his teammates NK and janitor him in hopes that he was driven or saved N1. It would not be a bad risk to clear himself with so many protective roles, even without the doctor.

This from N1 looks like a call for protection:

Many potential actions tonight, so tomorrow should be an interesting day, hopefully I'm still here to enjoy it.

Maybe not likely, but possible. My guess is xorxes is third party, I think there are better candidates for the last 2 town spots.

[TrPrado]

Also yes, right now I’m super suspicious of Squigs. When I said he was most likely to have signaled to Jamie I mean that if only one person did it would absolutely have been Squigs. I think there was also another post of his that seemed really fishy, I’ll look for it.

[bozotheclown]

If you are town, your method relies very heavily on confirmation bias. After you concluded I was scum D1, in your large D2 post you listed literally over half of my D2 post at the time as scum indicative. No one is that bad as scum that every other one of their posts gives them away.

By the way, you could have changed your vote at EOD to prevent me from having to claim my exact role as well. Instead you continued to call for my lynch, even after I claimed Medium.

I wasn’t reading the thread at the time since I didn’t think there’d be a big change. You were my top scum read, I saw on the bot you were leading, I looked away momentarily, and posted in hopes of widening that lead. I wasn’t even aware you had claimed you had a confirmable role.

I had already claimed Medium when you posted this:

Family dinner. No time. Checked the bot, looks good, but I’d be a bit more comfortable with a few more people on bozo. Stay strong.

Call for my lynch when you did not know what was going on was not town indicative.

[BunnyGo]

It occurred to me that xorxes as mafia could have had his teammates NK and janitor him in hopes that he was driven or saved N1. It would not be a bad risk to clear himself with so many protective roles, even without the doctor.

This from N1 looks like a call for protection:

Many potential actions tonight, so tomorrow should be an interesting day, hopefully I'm still here to enjoy it.

Maybe not likely, but possible. My guess is xorxes is third party, I think there are better candidates for the last 2 town spots.

Technically true and I’ve wondered that. It would be a huge risk by them, not only would they be risking Xorxes not being saved, but they are wasting a NK (AND the only janitor). If they are that aggressive and lucky in N1, I’m willing to pay off to it for now.

[TrPrado]

By the way, you could have changed your vote at EOD to prevent me from having to claim my exact role as well. Instead you continued to call for my lynch, even after I claimed Medium.

I wasn’t reading the thread at the time since I didn’t think there’d be a big change. You were my top scum read, I saw on the bot you were leading, I looked away momentarily, and posted in hopes of widening that lead. I wasn’t even aware you had claimed you had a confirmable role.

I had already claimed Medium when you posted this:

Family dinner. No time. Checked the bot, looks good, but I’d be a bit more comfortable with a few more people on bozo. Stay strong.

Call for my lynch when you did not know what was going on was not town indicative.

If I think you're scum and therefore unable to confirm a town role, how am I supposed to imagine you having claimed medium?

[TrPrado]

Also for the record here are the possible signals I was thinking of

The first was the initial vote from Squigs that bozo already pointed out, and the rest are:

Okay so one of Jamie/Flav is mafia but probably not both and in the last page Jamie convinced me it was him. Thanks bro

You've literally had a hardon for me since before the reset, Squigs. It's very repetitive.

Okay the initial vote was a joke, but now I'm actually bringing up real reasons. Consider my vote no longer a joke

Congrats, Squigs with one g... hope you get the job!

Why Jamie? And why start where we left off when we got new roles?

Because I accidentally (read: purposefully) initiated the jokepost phase. Also, hey mafia buddies, how are you all?

Because I accidentally (read: purposefully) initiated the jokepost phase. Also, hey mafia buddies, how are you all?

@Bob: Dargorygel asked Squigs a question.

Why did you answer it?

Because it was correct. Squigs' vote was not a serious one, like all votes made in the first 20 minutes.

Okay so one of Jamie/Flav is mafia but probably not both and in the last page Jamie convinced me it was him. Thanks bro

Noo, Jamie is fearful as scum, he will bamboozle all of you

I have no proof that we're dealing with Scumbo Jambo, but your opinion matters to me, Squigs..because guess what? I felt something was a bit 'off' about him

Will abstain myself from leaning him in any direction for now, but I'm curious to know how you've detected scum Jamie

[Vaporwave]

if I would have been a scum, I wouldn't have called for Jamie's bum to receive bullets 2 times

I'm not sure how that's a signal, Prado. I wanted to know how Squigs knew that Jamie is scum

[TrPrado]

If Jamie's buddies tried signalling him it's pretty well concealed. I would've gotten to reading sooner but I took a lot of breaks from reading because my strategy of pulling up peterbot and using Ctrl+F to search for Jamie turned out to be super boring.

Candidates for possibility so far are Squigs, Bob, and Vapor.

I remember someone saying something along the lines that Jamiet was upset when bo_sox was shot, but I can't remember who it was or what they said exactly.

I see where you’re going. On my phone right now, will double check before night ends.

Found it:

All I've done is commented on other peoples stuff, so I'll throw up some data to try and initiate a conversation. Take all the below with a grain of salt as I'm no wordsmith. I'll also attempt some intelligence behind it (I'm historically better at tracking the data than analyzing it).

Who shot Bo? So then who had the means, motivation and opportunity to shoot bo?
ROLES
Traitor - use any time (I stick to my 'guns' pun intended that it's in their best interest to fire early because the odds of hitting town is higher).
Item Smith - (can't hand out until night, off the hook)
JOAT - use it any time, candidate
Vig - use it any time, candidate (two bullets)
Assassin - (only at night, off the hook)
Observation - there are a total of 8 bullets, so 7 left.

We know Bo was the Doc. So who said what about him.

Bo started with the 'test'.
Damo jumped on it (#91), Bo reciprocated voting back.
Bozo jumped in with Damo (#98), and argued over M.Claim (or variant there of #114))
Kitsune jumped in on the M.Claim conversation (calmly and politely #142), triggering an actual calm justification from Bo (#159)
Temasek posts about TvS fight (#167) and conversation ensues. TrPrado engages on coin flipping and Bo blows them off (#171)
Flavius (not quite) defended Bo, with the statement "Im 100% against lynching people who dont talk in the first few days, lets focus on active people thank you very much" (#218)
--Post Shot--
Jamie show actual grief at the loss (#252), but then asks bunny if it was them (deflecting and scummy? #253) and retracts it (#255)
Worcej re-posts complement on Bo's strategy (#333)
Vapor comments not about Bo, but about suspicious that it was the Vig, and that they might know who they would be (#364)

So those with negative interactions with Bo may be too obvious, but Damo & Bozo are up front. Kit a bit, but their exchange was polite. TrPrado is an interesting suspect as they were blown off.
Temasek was analyzing their behavior publicly... perhaps there was a vig/JOAT rationale to end that conversation, but that would imply that Temasek was getting close to revealing something?

To highlight, I do have problems differentiating between Scum behavior and Newb/not smart behavior (like my repost of the phrase that must not be posted). So interpret the above as you need, just trying to contribute.

I marked the part of the post that xorxes was referring to.

[Vaporwave]

This is an 'if' case, but I were to be scum and Jambo a traitor, I would have been doing weird stuff on thread, even using 'honey' nicks for him

yeah that sort of thing

especially since I can't ever get along with him

[Vaporwave]

Kinda see what you mean with Squigles, he might have signaled.